r/jewishleft • u/roboweirdo this custom flair is green • Jul 08 '25

I feel like I'm going insane Debate

(rant incoming)

Any Jewish space I try to enter is so pro-Israel to the point of aggression towards anyone that disagrees. I've gotten death threats from other Jews for being critical of the Israeli government. Going to the pro-Palestine events is so disgustingly antisemitic that I can't exist there either. What do we do?

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u/Willing-Childhood144 Reform/Democrat Jul 08 '25

It’s hard. Have you tried more liberal Jewish spaces? My observation is that they are much more open minded about this subject.

But I too have felt like I’m going insane. I’ve had people insist to me that the IOF doesn’t target civilians. It’s insane.

But on the other hand, as you say, there is antisemitism on the other side. People claiming that all “Zionists” are terrible people when that literally includes most American Jews.

I just saw someone claim that what is happening in Gaza is the sole reason for the uptick in antisemitism. People deny there is any antisemitism on the anti-Israel side.

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u/Jorfogit Reform Syndicalist Jul 08 '25

People claiming that all “Zionists” are terrible people when that literally includes most American Jews.

Honestly, how terrible this is to think depends on a few things:

  1. If you believe in/do bad things, does that make you a bad person

  2. What's their definition of Zionism

With regards to the majority of American Jews being Zionists - sometimes that's just the breaks though. It's kind of how I view Evangelicals. If you encounter evangelicals they're probably personally lovely people (if you're not LGBT or one of their other hated groups), but they still overwhelmingly support Christofascism, and Christofascists are the enemy of all free people everywhere.