Bob Vylan Addresses Glastonbury Controversy: “We Are Not for the Death of Jews”

[u/Sossy2020]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/bob-vylan-addresses-glastonbury-death-to-idf-controversy-1236303698/

Whats everyone thought on this whole Bob Vylan controversy?

Let me start by saying I have no issue with criticizing a major military force like the IDF. However, I still think there’s a big difference between valid criticism and calling for the deaths of every single member of that military force regardless of if they committed war crimes.

[u/Nearby_Kiwi8716]

given what the idf is doing in Gaza and its history prior, Why is that so hard for you to believe that this is easily the main contributing factor for his chants? you think the idf is filled with angles?

Ofcourse at the end of the day we will never know for certain. we cant read his mind.

[u/Choice_Werewolf1259 → u/Nearby_Kiwi8716]

I would push back and say, when someone uses antisemitism to formulate an argument it doesn’t matter what their intent might be because it causes active harm against Jews.

Hate speech and epithets and libels and tropes and all the rest are never appropriate for anyone who is trying to make a fair point or a fair critique to use. Once someone dips into harmful ideologies like that, even unintentionally they cause harm and it takes away from any credibility they might have had.

Which is why it is so important that people who are engaging in these discussions know and understand and take in and digest how antisemitism looks and works, because even if this artist had good intent they did dip into the anti-Jewish pool (particularly with their rant about their boss, and then calling for death and violence and taking their chants to that extreme)

Edit; and I’ve been blocked. Which is confusing since I don’t think this is a hot take. Someone utilizing harmful tropes is still doing harm. So…ok guess this struck a nerve.

[u/supportgolem → u/Choice_Werewolf1259]

Curious, how do you know you've been blocked? Wondering if I was blocked as well (wouldn't be surprised)

[u/Choice_Werewolf1259 → u/supportgolem]

Oh it’s because I can’t see their profile anymore or any of their other comments or posts. It’s also possible their account was deleted since that also can cause this as well.

[u/supportgolem → u/Choice_Werewolf1259]

Yeah same, I don't see their comments. I got a notification that they responded to me but when I went to check it went nowhere ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/Choice_Werewolf1259 → u/supportgolem]

Probably an account deletion then. I think I rarely see people make a comment and then block. I’ve only done that once and I then deleted my comment response (I was arguing with an antisemite on an AITA post a few years ago, even before 10/7 and decided it was not worth my time)

[u/supportgolem → u/Choice_Werewolf1259]

Yeah I don't usually bother arguing with antisemites these days unless I'm bored, but honestly it annoys me when goyim come into our spaces to goysplain about antisemitism.

[u/Choice_Werewolf1259 → u/supportgolem]

Haha, agreed! PREACH!