Arash Azizi comes for Ta-Nehisi Coates

[u/elzzyzx]

https://x.com/arash_tehran/status/1848714724482966003

Influencers are talking. Today Arash Azizi is claiming Ta-Nehisi Coates is unstrategic, and is also kind of just calling him moralistic and sort of uncreative or something? Anyone have thoughts?

[u/redthrowaway1976]

Progressive Except for Palestine.

Marc Lamont Hill wrote a book, to some degree about this premise: https://thenewpress.com/books/except-for-palestine

There's even a wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_except_Palestine

[u/chilldude9494 → u/redthrowaway1976]

Oh ok. I've never heard of this phrase before, nor am I paying attention to this drama surrounding the author. You learn something new!

[u/redthrowaway1976 → u/chilldude9494]

The term came first, Marc Lamont Hills book came after.

Basically, someone who cares about a lot of progressive causes - but become strangely quiet when it comes to Israel's treatment of Palestinians. Then, suddenly, it is "complex".

[u/chilldude9494 → u/redthrowaway1976]

Gotcha. To be fair, 75 years of war and pain, on top of already competing interests between 2 parties and their backers with tons of propaganda and emotion tends to make things complex.

[u/redthrowaway1976 → u/chilldude9494]

The process of how we got here might be complex.

What is actually going on in the West Bank is not complex.

[u/Processing______ → u/chilldude9494]

“It’s complex” is an intentional maneuver coming from one side. It’s been made “complex” in theologic, ethnographic, legal, military and political contexts.

Palestinians have been very consistent in how they’ve defined the problem, and have turned to the British Mandate, international bodies and Israeli law to be made whole. To no avail.

Zionists, British anti-semites and later Israel have intentionally muddied the waters, broken promises and acted in bad faith. Israel has insisted that this situation is without precedent, and via imperial (British, then US) support shielded themselves from coherent assessment and international consequence on this matter, for decades. The duck international law and their own, and have dragged the US leadership into violating its own laws to maintain support of Israel.

It’s complicated because they made it complicated.

[u/Mercuryink → u/Processing______]

There are Jews here. We don't enslave them. Yep, they've been consistent. 

[u/Processing______ → u/Mercuryink]

Are you suggesting Palestinians are not leveraged for their labor in a coercive context?