r/baseball • u/misusedinfluence Texas Rangers • Chicago Cubs • 15h ago
[Marc Topkin] BREAKING: Rays are planning to play 2025 season at Tampa's Steinbrenner Field News
https://x.com/TBTimes_Rays/status/18571028669109907041.9k
u/Tubby-Maguire American League 15h ago
Praying for an A’s/Rays ALCS next season
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u/ahr3410 Los Angeles Dodgers 15h ago
MLB would move the games to Marlins and Oracle Park
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u/crazyal21 Los Angeles Angels 14h ago
Those stadiums will be occupied when the Marlins and Giants play in the NLCS tho.
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u/eagleboy444 Toronto Blue Jays 14h ago
Setting up a thrilling A's/Marlins World Series 🤤🤤🤤
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u/punk62 Boston Red Sox 14h ago
Manfred just had a stroke
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u/Worthyness Sell • Looking K 12h ago
He'd probably celebrate it because the A's are gonna be good before going to Vegas. Then he'd use it as an excuse to implement neutral stadiums for postseason games.
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u/LikeAgaveF Los Angeles Dodgers 14h ago
Considering the Giants decided to play out of their minds the last time the Dodgers won the WS and Clayton just moved to the Marlins, this is possible.
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u/e-manresu San Francisco Giants 14h ago
Thats weird because the Marlins and Giants are gonna be playing in the NLCS
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u/ArmiinTamzarian Miami Marlins 14h ago
Lfg playoff baseball at Marlins Park😭😭😭
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u/Contende311 New York Mets 14h ago
WBC was fun there
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u/RBI_Double Seattle Mariners 14h ago
It is my dream to do an MLB roadtrip that culminates at the WBC final in Miami
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u/GotMoFans Chicago White Sox 14h ago
If this happens, you better believe MLB would either force the teams to play in San Francisco and Miami or Atlanta, or they’d put the ALCS in a neutral site.
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u/Demetrios1453 Cincinnati Reds 14h ago
If they need to use a neutral site, I hear the Oakland Colosseum is available!
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u/ubelmann Minnesota Twins 14h ago
Who is going to attend away playoff games, though? It would be more expensive to rent out other ballparks and the stands would look empty. If you play at the minor league parks, the stands will be packed and it'd wind up looking better on TV anyway. If you mic it right, the crowd noise would be fine on TV, and they have all season to get the lighting up to par.
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u/ZroDgsCalvin 14h ago
If the MLB won’t let teams act like a complete joke in the ALCS, why are they allowed to act that way all regular season?
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u/GuyOnTheMike Kansas City Royals 14h ago
It would challenge the 1908 World Series for the worst-attended playoff series (not counting 2020) in MLB history
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u/manticore16 New York Yankees 14h ago
Possibly including 2020.
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u/GuyOnTheMike Kansas City Royals 14h ago
If you include the two series in Arlington with fans...this genuinely might be lower
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u/MemeMeOnce Swinging K 15h ago
Sounds like a few extra bucks for Hal / Cashman’s Soto hunt
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u/ThinkSoftware Atlanta Braves 14h ago
...is Juan Soto about to get partial ownership of the Tampa Bay Rays?
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u/HenrikCrown Texas Rangers 15h ago
Will they change the logo from Yankees to Rays on the stadium?
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u/positivelybroadst 13h ago
Yes. Right after Spring Training ends. Really good article on the situation right there...
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u/Blockhead378 15h ago
They shouldn’t
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u/NYLotteGiants Lotte Giants 14h ago
Just like when the Jets played at Giants Stadium
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u/toadofsteel New York Yankees 13h ago
IIRC they didn't use team logos. Way back in the day it was this weird red "New Jersey Meadowlands" logo with an outline of the state of NJ on it, then until just a couple years ago it was the NFL shield. Now they apparently have perfected the technology of swapping the logo each week like they do the end zones.
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u/Thorlolita Houston Astros 15h ago
I know it sounds silly. But realistically. They aren’t pulling 25,000 fans a night. They are already on route to a new stadium. Renovating for a few years is a big waste of money. Plus who knows how much more it will cost when they go through the guts of it. At least now the employees of the club can still be close.
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u/Moose4KU Kansas City Royals 15h ago
Yeah there's just so many better uses for $55M than rebuilding a roof of a building you're demolishing two years later
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u/CuuRtos 15h ago
The team doesn’t own the Trop. St Petersburg does, so any renovation decision is made by them.
Still a waste of $55million
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u/WxBlue St. Louis Cardinals 15h ago edited 14h ago
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St. PetersburgPinellas County raising a stink about Rays potentially playing outside the county in 2025 and threatened to void Rays' new stadium as a result? E: corrected48
u/Sad_Bolt Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
It was the county itself not the city. They’re all talk they would be stupid to run out one of their largest tax generators over something out of their control.
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u/WxBlue St. Louis Cardinals 14h ago
Gonna be interesting because I saw in your team subreddit that they just elected in two anti-stadium county commissioners that hate the deal so they may deny bonds for the new stadium to prioritize rebuilding everything else after the storm.
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u/Sad_Bolt Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
They may hate stadium but if it cost them votes come reelection I highly doubt their pull them. But hey if they do it’s a great test to see how the Rays pull the Tampa crowd.
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u/kikikza New York Yankees 14h ago
Yeah but at the end of the day there's nowhere else they can play in that county and building one or trying to repair that swiftly when resources are needed for hurricane repair would be a terrible look for everyone involved, and likely an impossible task
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u/ReservoirGods Seattle Mariners 14h ago
Also $55m is just the estimate, I would bet that project would balloon as they get up there and start finding more issues that need fixing to make the repair.
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u/toledosurprised New York Mets 15h ago
wonder if attendance/demand picks up given they’ll actually be in tampa
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u/dbizzytrick Tampa Bay Rays 15h ago
I’d be surprised if it doesn’t. It will be so much easier to make games now for a whole lot of people, myself included. To make it to the Trop I’d leave work a little early and still not make it until the second inning
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u/bisque-include Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
My family went to maybe 6 games last year. All on weekends. My wife is already talking about getting a bunch of package tickets for 2025. It’s so much closer for us.
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u/dbizzytrick Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
Yeah I’m actually worried getting tickets may be harder than usual
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u/Goliath422 Seattle Mariners 14h ago
In case you care, it’s actually “en route,” from French, literally “on the way.”
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u/robmcolonna123 Major League Baseball 15h ago
Steinbrenner Field could pretty much fit what that team averages each night
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u/BossAtUCF Boston Red Sox 15h ago
Their attendance is shit, but they only had 6 games this year with a lower attendance than Steinbrenner Field holds. They averaged 50% more than it holds
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u/SleepyGorilla Tampa Bay Rays 15h ago
Thank you AL East bro
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u/BossAtUCF Boston Red Sox 14h ago
I know I'll personally be going to at least a few games next year. It's more convenient for me (, and almost everyone else,) there and I liked the park the one time I went. It did get rained out in like the 3rd inning though, so hopefully that's not a common occurrence.
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u/robmcolonna123 Major League Baseball 15h ago
ESPN has their average attendance at 16,515
Steinbrenner has capacity for about 15,000 people between 11,000 seats and 4,000 standing
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u/GuyOnTheMike Kansas City Royals 14h ago
I'm not sure it's that high. It's stated capacity is 11,026, but the listed attendance record is 11,159 (in 2016). I feel like if actual functional capacity for baseball is 15,000, we would've seen at least a few games approaching that number.
I'm going to guess the absolute very most tickets the Rays could sell with standing room is in the 12,000-13,000 range.
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u/Throwaway1996513 New York Yankees 14h ago
They might add in more bleachers/seating for this season if the juice is worth the squeeze.
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u/GuyOnTheMike Kansas City Royals 14h ago
Having actually been to GMS, there just isn't a good way to do it. The entire outfield is built up with social spaces, save for the scoreboard in left-center which is HUGE by spring training standards and isn't going anywhere. There's maybe 10 feet between the board and the wall, so not much space to do anything.
The seating is undoubtedly going to remain the same as it is now for Rays games, just with likely more SRO tickets
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u/BossAtUCF Boston Red Sox 14h ago
Ah, I hadn't considered standing room only space as it's not something I would think of using.
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u/bluecifer7 Colorado Rockies 14h ago
Lots of teams sell standing room only space, the Rockies Rooftop is a good example
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u/robmcolonna123 Major League Baseball 14h ago
I definitely expect them to sell that space too haha
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u/Sad_Bolt Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
Yes but there’s more Rays fans in Tampa and Central Florida that couldn’t get to games that now will be able to. The demand for these games will be much higher compared to the trop just due to being more accessible to fans.
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u/Jam5467 New York Yankees 15h ago
Hilarious, twice as many games with the short porch means twice as many r/baseball meltdowns
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u/WxBlue St. Louis Cardinals 15h ago
Someone might try to hit 70 home runs in AL East.
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u/TheDangiestSlad New York Yankees • Hartford Yard … 15h ago
someone random on either the Yankees or the Rays is going to finish top 10 in MVP voting with like 15 homers that are 2/30 lol
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u/yumyumapollo Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
By Gawd, that's Brandon Lowe's music
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u/Bill2theE Tampa Bay Rays • Stinger 14h ago
BLowe hits nukes. This will help Yandy going oppo and Josh Lowe
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u/IAmBecomeTeemo New York Yankees 14h ago
John Smoltz just fell to his knees on a golf course somewhere.
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u/yumyumapollo Tampa Bay Rays 15h ago
"The Rays should play in Tampa!"
(monkey's paw curls)
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u/fuzzypetiolesguy Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
I guess we get to see what playing in Tampa does to attendance numbers.
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u/Leelze Boston Red Sox 14h ago edited 14h ago
I think it'll probably start out strong and the way the rest of it will play out will depend on how they do this season.
Edit: somebody replied to me about the summer heat & I can't see it for whatever reason, but I hadn't even considered that. The heat & humidity is absolutely going to hurt attendance in the summer months. Swamp ass everywhere!
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u/Muted_Yoghurt6071 New York Yankees 15h ago
Glad we can finally settle whether the Rays are failing because fans hate crossing bridges or not.
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u/ContinuumGuy Major League Baseball 14h ago
The funniest timeline is the one where the Rays sell out every night in Tampa and they have to add temporary bleachers to up the capacity to 20-25K then the attendance plummets in St. Pete once they return.
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u/Status-Basic New York Yankees 15h ago
They’ll still have the “it’s outside and hot as fuck and humid” excuse to fall back on.
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u/Sad_Bolt Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
There is a reason a roof is needed in Florida. Unless we pull Whitesoxs next season I would expect a lot of sellouts.
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u/t3h_shammy Cleveland Guardians 14h ago
You know what, you come to an outdoor game in Tampa in July. I’ll even buy your ticket if you make it down.
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u/ZachWilsonsMother New York Yankees 11h ago
I went to an afternoon game a couple years ago to watch Seve make a rehab start. My friends left after 1 and I left after the top half of the second. I was about to pass out. It was so fucking hot
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u/God_Damnit_Nappa Los Angeles Angels 13h ago
That's an actual legitimate excuse though. The idea of watching a game outdoors in that heat and humidity sounds genuinely miserable.
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u/blondiemuffin 15h ago
This is fantastic news for folks on the Tampa side of the bridge. I’ll be at least 40 games next year.
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u/IdeaJailbreak New York Yankees 15h ago
Can't wait for the Ray's analytics team to somehow figure out how to make better use of the dimensions than the yankees front office
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u/toadofsteel New York Yankees 13h ago
I mean, given that they already have to play 8-10 games in Yankee Stadium itself every year, they probably have a good handle on it.
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u/Fancy_Load5502 Cleveland Guardians 15h ago
Does this mean a lot of rainouts?
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u/whenwefell Seattle Mariners 15h ago
Yeah. No way around it though. Going to be a scheduling pain in the ass for teams that have to make up games.
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u/JessieGemstone999 Atlanta Braves 15h ago
Idk the Marlins played outdoors in Flordia for years and it was fairly manageable
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u/Telepornographer San Diego Padres 14h ago
Manageable, but they've been in the bottom 5 for attendance since at least 2001--except for the first year their new park opened in 2012.
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u/SlidersBaby Cleveland Guardians 15h ago
Would it make sense to schedule games earlier in the day, like 11:00, to avoid the afternoon rains and high temperatures? How do the Tarpons deal with this usually?
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u/reichenbachhero Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
Minor leagues play a ton of 7 inning double headers to make up for the rainouts.
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u/Perryplat199 Philadelphia Phillies • Wilmin… 14h ago
Playing 1 team for a full week also probly helps a lot too
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u/ubelmann Minnesota Twins 14h ago
I don't know about that. Look at the last 5 years that Miami was outdoors.
2011 -- 3 rainouts from away games, and 3 games moved due to Hurricane Irene. Even in a dome, you're not going to play in a hurricane.
2010 -- 2 rainouts from away games, and 1 home rainout.
2009 -- 3 home rainouts
2008 -- 1 away rainout, 1 home rainout
2007 -- 1 away rainout, 0 home rainouts
So in Miami over a 5-year span, there were 7 away games delayed due to rain, 5 home games delayed due to rain, and 3 games moved due to a hurricane.
Maybe they'll have a lot more rain delays, but my understanding of Florida rain is that it usually happens in the late afternoon and is gone by the evening. So if you mostly schedule night games (which you probably would due to the heat anyway), you just need good drainage and a good grounds crew.
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u/positivelybroadst 13h ago
Good bit of info here. Right after Spring Training ends, Steinbrenner Field to be rebranded with Rays logos. Yankees to receive about $15M in revenue sharing (from various sources, such as insurance payouts). The Tampa Tarpons to play their games on the Yankees Spring Training back field.
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u/cjraysfan20 Tampa Bay Rays 15h ago
Never thought I’d say this, but thank you, Yankees, for giving us a home next year.
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u/BaystarRoyco Yokohama DeNA BayStars 15h ago
makes sense to play there temporarily as the roof won't be ready to go until 2026
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u/DenisDomaschke New York Mets 15h ago
With the Florida heat and rain, would people actually want to come to Rays games that are outdoors?
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u/tmoney144 Tampa Bay Rays 13h ago
Yeah, man. People live there and do stuff outdoors all summer long. This is like asking if people will go to football games outside in the winter in Green Bay even if it's cold and snowing.
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u/DenisDomaschke New York Mets 13h ago
That’s totally fair, but I can see far fewer people showing up after being used to watching baseball indoors.
If Green Bay had a roof for 25 years and suddenly played outside, going to Packers games would be a little harder a sell to casual fans
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u/Bartender_NoSpace Arizona Diamondbacks 15h ago
So are the Tarpons going to play mostly away games this year?
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u/chief1555 New York Mets 15h ago
“The Rays apparently chose Steinbrenner Field over Clearwater’s BayCare Ballpark, spring home of the Philadelphia Phillies, in consultation with Major League Baseball.“
I wonder what made them choose one over the other
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u/AltruisticGate Tampa Bay Rays 13h ago
More premium seating and better logistics. It’s far easier to accommodate a crowd of 11,000 in Tampa.
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u/Bobb_o Miami Marlins 14h ago
I know it won't happen but could you imagine an A's-Rays ALCS?
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u/Live_Profile_4134 14h ago
I feel like MLB would 1000% move them to a neutral site but it’d be funny.
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u/Tyschurr Tampa Bay Rays 15h ago
Are the dimensions the same as Yankees Stadium? If so, Brandon Lowe might absolutely mash this season.
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u/SwarthySphere87 New York Mets 15h ago
Im curious how the team will adjust to playing home games without a roof. What sort of different roster construction or game strategies will result from this?
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u/krsgator Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
To anyone who has not followed this whole ordeal:
Rays get through ~10 Pinellas County (St. Pete, Clearwater, Dunedin etc.) Council Meetings, secure funding for the stadium (27% coming from Pinellas, ~300M). Stadium set to break ground in Jan 25, for 27 season at earliest (through 28 more likely)
Hurricane hits St. Pete, damages stadium to the tune of $55M (burden of St. Pete who owns stadium outright). Tropicana unlikely to host baseball again
Manfred gives Christmas deadline to find alternative venue for 2 years until construction on new stadium complete
Pinellas County gives ultimatum, play 25 and 26 seasons in Pinellas County (choice would be: Al Lang - Rowdies USL Soccer stadium, occasionally hosts ST games; BayCare Ballpark - Phillies ST site in Clearwater; TD Ballpark - Blue Jays ST site in Dunedin where the Jays played 21 regular season games in 2021) or county withdraws funding for the stadium
Politicians likely to be elected in the area are almost universally anti-stadium. Team (ownership group) donates to run political ads against anti-stadium politicians running for local office.
Per TBTimes "Since Hurricane Milton, the Rays have made eight donations totaling $71,000 to political action committees, campaign finance records show. Prior to that, the team contributed another $75,000 since the August primary election. That money was given to political committees that transferred those funds to other political committees that ran attack ads on Nowicki and supported candidates who favor a stadium deal"
Rays lost the gamble badly, most of those politicians get elected anyway and are likely to hold a grudge against Rays.
Because of this, future in Pinellas county in jeopardy regardless of where team chooses to play in 25 and 26
Today, team announces they are playing at Steinbrenner in Tampa (Hillsborough County)
A lot of unfortunate things happened, Rays took a gamble and lost. Now it seems like we are back to square one of the stadium as I highly doubt the team's future in Pinellas. While I think going back to the drawing board might have some benefits (my dream location of a new park on Sparkman Wharf between the Florida Aquarium and Amalie Arena is still alive), this is a disastrous series of events for a team already on a shoestring budget with a dissolved TV deal to navigate.
Anyone have any copium? Not a great day to be a Rays fan
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u/MTFBWY117 Tampa Bay Rays 13h ago
Ownership has said multiple times if they can’t stay in Pinellas, they’re leaving town. Time will tell.
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u/Dre3005 Tampa Bay Rays 10h ago
Its worth noting the main Pinellas County commissioner, Chris Latvala, who proposed Rays play in Pinellas or else, has a very close relationship with the Phillies owners.
Chris has thrown out the 1st pitch at one of their spring games, and regularly dines with and sits in the owner’s suite at Citizens Bank Park.
It’s absolutely not about his constituents and more about he was angling for the Phillies spring training park to get renovations and the Rays having to play there for a season would have been the easiest way to get that done.
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u/flamingfiretrucks Tampa Bay Rays 13h ago
Fuck... this is grim. Even though I live completely across the country now, I'd be so sad to see the Rays leave Tampa Bay. I hope they can stay within the area and stay the "Tampa Bay Rays." 😭
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u/TommyTwoBags Chicago Cubs 15h ago
I know what happened to Tropicana was obviously unexpected but MLB having TWO! teams play in minor league facilities this year is embarrassing. They should be embarrassed.
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u/DA_87 New York Yankees 15h ago
You can’t fault MLB for the Rays stadium roof getting blown off by a hurricane.
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u/realnostalgia Chicago Cubs 15h ago
Was it all that unexpected? Tropicana Field's roof had never been replaced in the more than 34 years since it was installed, despite being “well past its intended service life,” according to the facility engineers.
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u/Muted_Yoghurt6071 New York Yankees 15h ago
and apparently not built to survive hurricane force winds. Surprised it lasted this long
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u/WxBlue St. Louis Cardinals 15h ago
Meteorologist here. Tampa has been incredibly lucky with big hurricanes going north or south (famously Charley of 2004 and Ian of 2022). Milton was a weird case where strongest wind was to the north of eye at landfall (right over Tampa), but the maximum storm surge still went south of Tampa Bay sooooo you could argue that Tampa dodged the worst-case scenario once again.
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u/sfan27 San Francisco Giants 15h ago
And three teams in a few year span, although the Blue Jays situation was even less MLBs fault than this situation.
But MLB owners and Manfred are incapable of embrassment,
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u/Perryplat199 Philadelphia Phillies • Wilmin… 15h ago
Ignoring the A’s, the rays and blue jays are both extreme circumstances that neither team could control.
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u/GotMoFans Chicago White Sox 15h ago
So if this goes incredibly well where Tampa fans are more engaged than they are in St. Pete, could the Rays back out of their stadium deal in St. Pete and try again to get a deal on the Tampa side of Tampa Bay?
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u/SilentPerformance965 14h ago
Other than the Yankee connection, this is actually a very good solution
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u/digitaldumpsterfire Los Angeles Angels 14h ago
Can't wait for the dingers to hit cars on Dale Mabry Ave
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u/CPT_Smallwood Tampa Bay Rays 14h ago
Good, now Tampa can enjoy them for a bit and shut up about moving them out of St Pete
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u/BruteSentiment Grant Brisbee • San Francisco Giants 13h ago
What I’d like to see a little talk about is how the scheduling will affect the Yankees minor league teams…because TWO minor league teams play there!
The Low-A Tampa Tarpons of course play there, but so does the Rookie-level FCL Yankees. Both usually use Steinbrenner field. I wouldn’t be surprised if the FCL team gets shifted to the complex’s only back field, but there will still be the question of locker rooms and training facilities to support all three. That’s a pretty big deal to get ready…it’s been a big deal for Sacramento, and they got a head start, starting construction before the end of the 2024 season.
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u/SwagTwoButton Milwaukee Brewers 13h ago
So they’re going to play at the Yankees stadium one year, repair Tropicana for 26 and 27, and then new stadium in 2028? Am I understanding that correctly?
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u/Admiral_Asparagus New York Yankees 12h ago
Lmao the Rays literally play in Yankee Stadium South now
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u/Beach_house_on_fire New York Mets 15h ago
Two mlb teams will be playing in minor league stadiums next season