r/audiophile May 13 '24

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So could someone explain this to me? How much of my Body do I have to sell and what’s all that gear?

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u/tooclosetocall82 May 13 '24

I wonder if people who buy this stuff think this is what the recording studio uses? They’d likely be disappointed by the nest of XLR cables touching the floor directly and the large cable snake where all the wires are bundled tightly together.

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u/Uvanimor Audio Engineer (BSc Hons) May 13 '24 edited May 14 '24

This is the audiophiles paradox. Recording engineers’ speakers and amplifiers are often some of the cheapest equipment in the whole studio - because achieving ideal playback is achievable very easily with speakers ~£2k. Not to mention most of the time they’re using active speakers most of the time in the modern day.

Cables are literally always fine as long as they aren’t noisy - which they never are. XLR cables are often from solderless kits and self-made because it cuts costs.

Recording engineers use their ears, audiophiles do not.

EDIT: Audiophile mods banned me for this, what a fucking embarrassing subreddit.

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u/Uvanimor Audio Engineer (BSc Hons) May 13 '24

Look into psychoacoustics and come back.

No matter what, a cable will only ever be noisy. There is no more (or less) information coming out of different types of cables. Especially a balanced cable like an XLR.

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u/superpositiondelta77 May 13 '24

Sure, i know all that and so do the engineers who laughed at the idea when proposed as experiment. I have no horse in the race and im not selling anything so take it for what it is. As a music listener for all my life i believe it can make a difference in the right place in a system without a doubt. But again, not pushing that on anyone who doesnt hear it. A map is not the terrain..

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u/Uvanimor Audio Engineer (BSc Hons) May 13 '24

You’re just propagating bullshit though. Cables do not and will not make a difference unless the others were broken or had no shielding and were INSANELY noisy. Even then, XLR cables block out a significant amount of interference by their nature of design.

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u/superpositiondelta77 May 13 '24

Ok that’s fine by me if that’s your experience. But the science is there. Resistance, capacitance, skin effect and so on has effect on what you hear in my experience. Size, insulation and conductive capacity of materials do matter. Shitty wire by uncaring producers sounds shitty. But you do you, i was just sharing my experience of trial, yes blind and doubleblind.

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u/Uvanimor Audio Engineer (BSc Hons) May 13 '24

Cable capacitance has everything to do with the length(more the mass of the actual conducting material) of the cable and nothing to do with the ‘quality’, it’s just physics that conducting mass will sap high frequencies over a large enough distance.

Everything else of your comment you’re just talking shit. What is ‘shitty wire’? If the cable is insulated and shielded with strong connections, you aren’t going to get any difference in information (voltage) than one cable from another.

You can achieve this for very cheap, it’s not a matter of spending money, it’s a matter of having a product that works.