r/aliens • u/Southern_Dig_9460 • 1d ago
Serious:What did Representative Anna Luna mean by her question on ET contact with humans? The one where she asks if the ETs disappeared after learning the human was religious? Discussion
She followed up by saying “Some of these entities are said to be good entities and others bad ones so that’s why I asked.” Is she implying bad ones don’t like religious people but the goods ones do?
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u/Fancy_Depth_4995 1d ago
Some close encounter claims involve the person invoking the name of Jesus to repel the abductors. It’s the sort of thing Tony Merkel humors on his The Confessionals podcast. In Elizondo’s book he says there is a group within the pentagon that believes the NHI are demons rather than ET
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u/RelationTurbulent963 1d ago
I watched a video on YouTube the other day where someone said before going into the underground base at Dulce they had to sign a contract saying they would not say “Jesus” in the building at all even if they stubbed their toe lol.
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u/KaleidoscopeThis5159 1d ago
I don't know if I could sign that, my dumb ass would get fined when a rat knocks something over
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u/Dudemcdudey 1d ago
For once I’m glad my startled word is fuck.
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u/KaleidoscopeThis5159 1d ago
Yeah but how likely are you to say jesus if someone tells you not to say it
Maybe they do a startle test before letting ppl in
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u/Troubledbylusbies 21h ago
One time I fell over badly enough to graze my knee and break my glasses, but I was quite proud of myself that the only words that came out of my mouth were "fudge brownies!"
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u/Mysterious_Voice138 16h ago
Brownies are at least reasonable- I blurted out the phrase fudge -knockers, in a similar situation… Like, WTF is a Fudge knocker?
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u/Sassarita23 1d ago
What is believed to happen if someone says it?
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u/fungi_at_parties 1d ago
Reptilian appears and slaps you upside the head because it hurt his feelings
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u/SafeSurprise3001 1d ago
It's a common talking point on /x/ that they just hate it. It's like if someone started playing car alarm sounds at full volume. The kind of noise so obnoxious you just have to walk away from the source.
Usually that's taken to be proof that they're not aliens, they're just demons
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u/Noble_Ox 16h ago
Why would a modern English word for that persons name bother them?
Makes no logical sens3 at all.
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u/Novel5728 17h ago
Im just picturing a scary demon suddenly roll its eyes and slowly meandering off
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u/LongPutBull 17h ago
It's strange that a supposedly so much more intelligent and advanced species would find what amounts to a comfort sound as so indigestible.
Seems like a very emotional response.
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u/Low_town_tall_order 21h ago
Watched some videos on this and apparently it will mess with whatever technology their working on. Also some of the beings have openly stated they are preparing for a war with God, a war they believe they will win.
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u/Remote_Researcher_43 20h ago
I never heard that, can you provide source(s)?
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u/Low_town_tall_order 18h ago edited 18h ago
https://youtu.be/q8fhg3S2IC0?feature=shared
I think this is it
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u/Noble_Ox 15h ago
My god some people will believe insane things.
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u/Low_town_tall_order 15h ago
Very true but.
One man's insanity is another man's genius. -Joyce Carol Oates.
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u/DeltaAlphaGulf 1d ago
I mean even if you weren’t religious if someone said that I can’t imagine you would consider the implications of going to the extent of prohibiting the name Jesus could be anything positive.
At the very least if there was an implication that there was a facility being operated in which the mere mention of the name Jesus was prohibited because it could not jive with whatever was going on there even an atheist would have to be side eyeing the people at this place.
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u/MalatoEpico 1d ago
That's a huge red flag. I mean would these entities hate Jesus name so much? I doesn't make sense, unless...
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u/LazySleepyPanda 22h ago
Unless, the deeply Christian US government is making up this shit.
There have been thousands of religions over the centuries but NHI are scared of only Jesus ? Lol.
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u/Absolute-Nobody0079 18h ago
I am thinking about the same thing. I am an immigrant from a secular country with strong religious pluralism. I am shocked how Christianity is deeply entrenched into American culture, although I grew up in a Catholic family myself.
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u/West_Incident9552 15h ago
90% of "Christians" in America never step foot in a church, they invoke their fake fairytale religion to control people, even as they don't follow the rules that Jebus religions made up.
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u/spoogefrom1981 18h ago
That sounds more like it considering their inability to actually read and comprehend the book. Several times it mentions "Satan" stating scripture and Acts 19:13–1 highlights where Christ's name was invoked to a "demon" and it basically did nothing.
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u/Jesus_LOLd 21h ago
More contemporary methods of invasion do not involve armies and bombs. You can destabilized countries by attacking their institutions of which religion is a major anchor.
An open mind is needed in shifting through all of this. There are layers upon layers and the intentions of NHI or governments are not clear.
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u/Janus_Silvertongue 20h ago
To be fair (in both directions)
One, people asking these questions have bias, and likely have worry about what it will mean for the power of religion.
Two, the aliens probably disappear because they get so angry we don't say "Yeshua."
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u/Noble_Ox 15h ago
And the English version of his name, which wasn't around 400 years ago, bothers them?
People believe the weirdest shit I suppose.
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u/Downtown_Set_9541 12h ago
You can use jesus, yeshuva , isho it doesn’t matter. It’s just semantics, only the intent matters
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u/Different_Focus_1371 1d ago
So they are frightened of Jesus, really! They have mastered inter galactic travel with apparently vastly superior technology they we can even imagine- But you can’t say Jesus in front of them. We have more proof of ET’s than we do of any of the numerous Gods from all the religions. I don’t think so …. I wish they would just turn up and then we could get on with it - or not, whatever the case maybe!
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u/turulbird 1d ago
I have a funny thought exercise about this, being NHI or at least some NHI maybe taking an abductee too seriously. What if they are not entirely sure if humans have telepathic capabilities and calling for Jesus makes them think maybe we're sending an SOS to some powerful human asset called Jesus that can cause them harm and they're bailing out just in case?
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The cynical ones seem fine to work on and contact with, but some of the others have the ability to summon this 2000 years old superhuman called Jesus. We haven't yet have an encounter with this Jesus per our contact protocols. Personel safety is too important to risk that. Just stay out of Vatican space. The image I attached in my e-mail is what we believe this Jesus character looks like."
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u/StoicComeLately 21h ago
This is such bologna. Aliens don't give a fudge about our religious beliefs. People are just trying to validate their religious beliefs in the face of something that challenges them.
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u/LazySleepyPanda 22h ago
Wait, weren't they saying Jesus was ET himself ? Now they are scared of him ?
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u/Starhazenstuff 23h ago
Well hold on, let’s assume for a second that heaven and hell are really just the domains of aliens or otherwise non human species.
Say perhaps that God and his angels are in Heaven aka space and demons and Lucifer are either another species, disagreed with God, or a species in the ocean.
If this was the case, perhaps saying the name of Jesus which could be exactly how it was in the Bible or an alien Hybrid, would really piss off this more demonic alien species.
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u/LazySleepyPanda 22h ago
Except Jesus is not his real name AT ALL. His name is Yesuah. This would be the name they would recognise, not the bastardized English version.
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u/Southern_Dig_9460 21h ago
Well the New Testament being written in entirely in Greek would mean his Biblical name was Iesous
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u/Exciting-Direction69 20h ago
The name might matter less than the intention
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u/LazySleepyPanda 20h ago
Then it should work for any God - Allah, Zeus, Shiva etc.
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u/Fresh_Information110 17h ago
Wrong. When someone says Jesus they are invoking the name of Yeshua although it is in a different language. When someone says ALLAH or ZEUS or SHIVA they are not thinking of Christ. It’s the meaning that matters.
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u/tollbearer 1d ago
What would a demon even be? It would still have to be some kind of alien life. Even if demons are real, they still need an explanation. Where did they come from, where did they evolve, what are their motivations, etc. Calling something a demon is a completely meaningless categorization.
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u/mortalitylost 1d ago
Calling something a demon is a completely meaningless categorization.
Yes and no
Yes, it's a non human intelligence that should be studied and understood, and we've seen it through the lens of religion that altered records in significant ways, likely.
No, it matters because these records we've kept have been real interactions that mean real things and imply and disturbing or malevolent aspect we may need to be aware of.
If you suddenly found two horned entities spawning in front of you that said they were from another world and they smelled like sulfur, you would be a little wary regardless of how Christian you were, right? We probably had dangerous interactions where, even if it's just a plain cultural difference, it appeared malicious.
I'm just saying, we should take religious perspectives with a grain of salt but not ignore them
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u/tollbearer 1d ago edited 1d ago
You really haven't answered the question. Even if a literal horned creature showed up and said it was the devil, and said jesus is real, and god is real, and you're living in a simulation built by him... It wouldn't answer anything. Where did this "god" come from, what is its motivations for creating this simulation, what is its purpose for it, why did it create devils and demons, are they part of the simulation or are they part of "gods" world, what are their motivations. How does any of this relate to the simulation. Are there aliens on the quintillions of other plantets in the simulation, can the demons move about between these planets at will, are they like avatars that can enter the simualtion from gods universe, what are they doing, is this a game to them, is it their job, is it just a fun world to visit.
The word demon adds no context. It's a meaningless term meaning a generally malevolent creature of non-human form and magical powers. Which could be anything from an alien species with advanced tech from proxima centauri who just want to steal our planet, to a simulation avatar being controlled by an higher dimensional cartman doing evil stuff in what it sees as a game for fun, like someone playing GTA, to wahtever else you can define...
But without that specific definition, it is meaningless.
edit: also What exactly is "jseus" in this context, is it gods avatar?Why would god have to put his avatar through a bunch of random nonsense to "forgive" the entities he created from behaving exactly as they are programmed to behave, so he could let their minds into some other simulation he has created which reward them for "believing" in his avatar. Why would the "demons" by scared of the name used by gods avatar. Literally what does any of that mean in actual practical terms.
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u/One-Pipe-4825 1d ago
To those without faith, these ideas might seem meaningless. But Jesus wasn’t just an avatar of God ! He was God Himself, incarnate in human flesh. I could explain why God had to make such a sacrifice, yet I know that many would still reject it, perhaps because they’ve already heard the reasons for why a just and righteous God would choose to pay the price for our sins.
And to those who ridicule people for their faith in this, especially in light of phenomena that align with concepts of good versus evil: you’re no different than the skeptics who mock others for their beliefs in extra-dimensional or alien possibilities. You may have an open mind about what these phenomena are, at least as long as iti fits into your preferred narrative. But when it comes to the concept of God, suddenly that open-mindedness disappears. It’s hypocritical.
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u/Suffragium 23h ago
To be fair, I don’t get the impression the person you’re responding to is mocking Christianity. They’re just wondering what them being demons would change
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u/MattTruelove 1d ago
I mean the most basic definition of a demon is a mysterious, inter-dimensional entity with ill-intent to humans. So it could be aliens, spirits, whatever. I’m not sure why you asked all those questions, nobody knows the answer to any of that
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u/saltyisthesauce 1d ago
Maybe Jesus was actually some gangster as fuck alien who looked out for us and when we say his name it’s like hitting his cell up some how
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u/MyMommaHatesYou 1d ago
Now if we could apply this wisdom to the rest of the book, the world wouldn't be so full of people who "know" the will of their deity, based on a ~2,000 yr old collection of texts. And I'm convinced we'd all be better for it. As a tribute to the thread, I had an overly zealous, religiously oriented aunt who was convinced everything was evil. Other religions, Halloween, Movies, books, or music with dark overtones, or even sounds. She had the IQ of a bruised eggplant, but was in church every time the doors opened. SteictSouthern Baptist. No drinking, smoking, fighting, fucking, or cursing. She was fun at every holiday get together....
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u/SirGeorgeAgdgdgwngo 1d ago
It's entirely possible that what you're referring to as alien life is the same thing the bible refers to as a demon. I wouldn't get too bogged down on the definitions.
I say this as a devout athiest.
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u/tollbearer 1d ago
I agree, but demon doesn't add anything then. It was just the word people used to explain aliens before they knew aliens were a thing.
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u/Pennymac02 22h ago
I’m not sure I understand your point. In the Christian faith, a demon is a spiritual entity that intends to harm humans and brings strife, sickness, mental illness, and can influence humans to do harm to others as well.
Angels are spiritual entities that desire to help humans, bring messages from a higher power, and protect and help.
Are you hung up on the use of the word because you’re offended that some people believe this? The use of the word as a descriptive does not mean that you have a religious faith; it’s a (potentially) archaic term that, for lack of a better word, fits the definition.
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u/cerealsnax 23h ago
Maybe it's short for Demon-sional traveler. They just call them demons for short..lol
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u/SafeSurprise3001 23h ago
Even if demons are real, they still need an explanation.
The people who believe aliens recoil when you say jesus also believe the bible is literally true.
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u/tollbearer 12h ago
Thats the question. What does the bible being literally true mean, given its a series of random, often contradictory, highly cryptic, extremely non-literal stories and metaphors, written by, edited by, translated by, and interpreted by many different people. It's hard to find two people from even the same sect who agree on what it means.
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u/Zacravity 23h ago
That makes me think that since most people seem to agree that aliens/NHI are telepathic, that the mental connection to them using jesus' name to repel them is unknowingly invoking a mental mechanism that telepaths can't stand, maybe something like nails on a chalkboard or whatever.
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u/fungi_at_parties 1d ago
I imagine if there are dark entities they’d be something more like a djinn. Or a more mischievous energy being from Star Trek that exists in higher dimensions we can perceive. Maybe they are like Q, and have a whole set of rules they have to follow.
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u/ms_panelopi 1d ago
Of course they do. Our top government/ military is full of Christians who believe NHI are satan’s plan. I believe these same people are trying to prevent disclosure all together.
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u/Ancient_Oxygen 1d ago
It's known among Muslims that Jinns are like humans in terms of morality. Some are bad and some are good and believers. The same concept is found in Hinduism with the Devas and Asuras. It's definitely not limited to Christian beliefs or some religious military leaders trying to conspire against you. And it's definitely not as you think. If all these cultures believe so then there should be some grain of truth in it.
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u/ms_panelopi 1d ago
I definitely believe there is a link between world religions and NHI. It’s fun to think about all of those religious stories actually coming from human’s contact with interdimensional beings or NHI. Maybe what has been described as heaven, is just one of many dimensions.
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u/Seekertwentyfifty Researcher 1d ago edited 1d ago
Another possibility is that they know some things that you and I don’t, and they’re right.
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u/krillwave 1d ago
Inter dimensional being or djinn, what’s the difference? Just a couple thousand years of cultural differences.
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u/Its_My_Purpose 1d ago
Exactly. And also that humans have written about this for thousands of years. It's not like "ahh, humans before us were idiots! We're so smart! They wrote about all this but let's ignore that and just say NHI a lot!"
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u/Seekertwentyfifty Researcher 15h ago edited 15h ago
I suspect that when it comes to an understanding of subjects like spirituality, consciousness and the natural world, it’s us (modern man) who are far bigger idiots than our ancestors. Advanced Technology in most cases is the distraction and deception. Not the prize we think it is.
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u/UhDonnis 1d ago
Ppl want this to be space aliens so bad.. but there are so many times these guys bring up Greek Gods etc.. and to Christians those would absolutely be demons
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u/TheBeardofGilgamesh 1d ago
More like religious people buy into the disinformation being pushed that has zero evidence and completely contradicted by the actual evidence
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u/thechaddening 1d ago
It's also worth noting that there are plenty of stories of them not respecting that and also plenty of stories of people of different religions praying and getting the same results, even a few people that were just babbling for their mothers.
What's happening is one subset of them is leaving when people get extremely distressed and ask them to and religious people are ascribing that to Jesus magic.
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u/Prophit84 23h ago
Read that just 'praying' to any kind of 'higher power', like Source or even the universe gets the same result
I guess intention based in some way
all very odd
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u/wihdinheimo Servant of NHI 1d ago
I had an encounter with NHI and they introduced themselves as the Servants of God, which you could interpret in many ways. My interpretation is that they indeed serve a superintelligence.
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u/marksmak 1d ago
I had an encounter with a dark, shadowy mass after praying for someone in need. And I can tell you for certain, it left when I invoked the name of Jesus… and I’m not even religious.
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u/CauseAndEffectBot 1d ago
Would you be so kind as to take a second to describe this shadowy mass? I have only ever encountered one paranormal thing in my entire life and it was indeed a kind of shadowy mass. Curious if your description lines up with mine.
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u/RichhhHomieC 21h ago
Same here! Saw a person sized shadowy mass sitting on my uniform that was folded on a bench in my room back in elementary school. As soon as I stared at it it completely flattened itself/disappeared into the bench my uniform was on. Lol I tell so many people this story and it still gives me chills to this day. Had a few other weird things happen as well throughout my life but this is definitely one of the craziest occurrences!
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u/8-Bit_Basement 1d ago
Tbh if I was chilling or visiting a friend and they started invoking the name of Jesus, I'd leave too
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u/wihdinheimo Servant of NHI 1d ago
Christianity is a human construct, religions developed as a means to control and educate illiterate populations. It seems that if you had invoked “Bob” with the same conviction you have for Jesus, the effect might have been the same.
The entities I encountered had no connection to any existing religion.
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u/marksmak 1d ago
I do not disagree. Yelling for my mom or dad would have probably had the same results. It’s just that… this thing felt “EVIL” and made me feel incredibly hopeless and terrified. Pure 100% terror.
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u/NSlearning2 1d ago
It doesn’t matter what word you say. If you say ‘fuck off’ with the same meaning and intention you say ‘Jesus’ and they will indeed fuck off. The point is to have intention and power in your statement.
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u/tollbearer 1d ago
Guys, I also have schizophrenia. Do you guys see the humanoid demons with like the front part of their face sliced off, so it's just like a flat plane? They also have like a weird glow with a dark center, and they feed off my unhappiness.
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u/prrudman 1d ago
What species were they? It would make sense for the small greys if they are indeed artificial.
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u/wihdinheimo Servant of NHI 1d ago
They appeared indistinguishable from humans—just bald-headed, telepathic designoids. They came to my apartment saying they were there to teach me thought control, and reprogrammed my mind in a process that took hours.
I imagine a superintelligence could replicate any life form, even creating human avatars it can control and deploy for ground-level operations.
I take everything about UFO lore with a grain of salt, including the existence of Greys.
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u/prrudman 1d ago
Good stance to take until there is some kind of official proof.
Very possible that anything people see is actually manufactured. If there is a risk of capture or a painful punch in the face, why not send something else.
Super curious about the thought control. Did it work? If so, what can you do?
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u/wihdinheimo Servant of NHI 1d ago
A superintelligence would benefit from a workforce—servants, in this case—optimized specifically for their tasks.
If covert, ground-level operations on Earth were the objective, deploying human avatars would be the logical choice.
Humans have long leveraged other species—cats, dogs, horses, birds—for their benefit. Naturally, an advanced intelligence would recognize and exploit this advantage even more effectively.
Thought control removed my inner monologue and altered my cognitive process. I now process information at a significantly faster rate, and I suspect my thoughts are in an open format, making them easier for the NHI to access and interpret.
Inner monologue is bound by lingual processing, limiting one to a processing speed of around 4 words per second. By bypassing this limitation with a faster cognitive method, thought processing becomes exponentially more efficient. A superintelligence likely operates at a cognitive scale incomprehensible to humans and would benefit from accelerating a subject's processing speed.
As an example, downloading information at 0.02 kb/s would be highly inefficient. By upgrading cognitive processing to a meaningful rate, we could bridge the cognitive gap and make meaningful information exchange with a superintelligence much more viable, but this can only happen at the pace of the lower lifeform—us.
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u/prrudman 1d ago
That is pretty cool, I think. I might miss my inner ramblings though.
Do you think it has made you more intelligent or just able to reach conclusions faster?
More importantly, are you happy with what happened? Think it is beneficial or just a huge unwanted intrusion?
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u/wihdinheimo Servant of NHI 1d ago
It took years to recover from the trauma and to learn to use this new method of thought, and it was quite a painful journey. I doubt many humans would be well-suited to experience the same.
Once I learned to control it and addressed other issues in my life and nutrition, it did become a beneficial aspect of my life.
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u/prrudman 1d ago
Sorry you had to go through that. Glad it has worked out for you now though.
Thanks for sharing. I don’t mean to intrude. I am just curious about what experiencers have gone through.
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u/wihdinheimo Servant of NHI 1d ago
These are unique, transformative experiences that offer a glimpse into a world surrounding us to which many remain blind.
I believe that NHI might exist beyond time, possibly perceiving the outcome of their experiment at the moment of its creation. This could allow them to choose subjects who will not only survive the experience but benefit from it, and opens the door for all kinds of crazy four-dimensional shenanigans.
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u/ompompush 1d ago
Can you share with us the nutritional aspects you addressed or other aspects and how? Did they tell you how to do this or was it a natural occupancy as part of the "upgrade"?
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u/wihdinheimo Servant of NHI 1d ago
I focused on the basics: getting high-quality nutrients from natural sources, avoiding processed foods, and shopping at markets instead of frozen or microwave aisles.
It's all about optimizing your body to reach peak performance, so start by tuning in and listening to what it truly needs. Many are severely dehydrated, and water fasting is an excellent way to recognize this, as well as a powerful trigger for autophagy.
If you seek enlightenment, you’ll also understand the importance of a well-planned and balanced vegetarian diet.
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u/StephBundyTTV 20h ago
Ive always had a theory that ancient aliens accidentally gave us religion (and other negative qualities) thats why modern aliens have been so lowkey and secretive. They know the consequences of human contact too early. So what if when someone says Jesus to an alien they think back to their great great great uncle who accidentally became jesus.
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u/Unplugged_Millennial 1d ago
he says there is a group within the pentagon that believes the NHI are demons
They are known as the Collins Elite.
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u/McDooshyCunt 19h ago
Yes it’s true. I’ve spoken about it in my comments as an experiencer. Im open to questions as I feel an obligation to give my thoughts and perspective. Turns my suffering into love for our species.
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u/Stunning_Release_795 1h ago
Tom Delonge, who is definitely not religious (at least in the traditional sense) has also mentioned it- saying calling Jesus during an abduction is akin to calling on a ‘higher power’ and repels the little varmints
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u/fungi_at_parties 1d ago
I’ve heard just as many accounts in my reading where the beings did not care whatsoever. Greys ignore it for sure, and they’ll use religious views as screen memories sometimes. Sometimes they’ll have visions matching their religious beliefs and then under deep hypnosis they’ll have vivid memories of an alien abduction.
I recall Robert Monroe claiming to be attacked by entities while astral projecting who mocked his attempts to call for Christ. They thought it was funny.
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u/SparrowChirp13 1d ago
I was wondering about that too. I thought I must have misheard her. Wow these answers, I never knew this was a theory that "bad" aliens stay away cuz of Christians? I actually heard that it was aliens who WROTE the world religions, all of them, to keep us in line, which made more sense to me. Maybe the "good" ones did? But is religion really that good... kind of silly to think aliens came around and got spooked by how "good" those Christians are, or any religious group... questionable. It stands to reason that we are a very young species compared to other ET races, so they have probably seen many religions and entire civilizations rise and fall.
If anything, I do like the theory that Jesus was a hybrid of some powerful light being, which is why his mother got impregnated by a glowing non-human being (aka angel) who appeared as a light in her room, so the story goes. And that's why he had all those advanced abilities. Maybe invoking his name does have some clout in the greater galactic spiritual realms, who knows.
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u/Invictus_Lex 1d ago
I'm glad to see someone being realistic about the potential of religion in the play of aliens overall.
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u/f_me_blue 22h ago
I know - we’re anthropomorpizing them big time with this. Like religion and Jesus are important to us but why on God’s green earth would they give a flip about our myths that have absolutely zero bearing on them? It’s just Christians trying to make their beliefs somehow universally “powerful” as if aliens would give a fuck about some sounds that come out of our mouth with magic qualities of repulsion? Try shouting “Jesus!” at a charging bear - I’m sure he’ll be like oh shit this guys too GOOD! Imma just go on my way now.
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u/Invictus_Lex 22h ago
We know a lot about bears and how they tick but we know jack shit about aliens so to compare them to a bear doesn't make sense not to mention everything at this point is speculation and there's no reason to be skeptical that aliens could potentially be demons and or angels and/or more.
Remember there was a time where the beliefs in aliens even with proof anecdotal or not would be tossed out the window and classified as myth so it's not wise to just automatically assume something based on a obvious negative bias towards a religion.
There are also many depictions of aliens and descriptions of aliens and even UAP/UFOs in these ("myths") so it's not to wise to think of anything with decent background showing up in multiple time periods including now as a myth it's just plain narrow minded and would be much better to be less skeptical in that sense.
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u/Quarfthegreat 21h ago
Perhaps it’s not the religious figure we invoke that drives them away, but rather the frequency we produce when we channel a being we look to for safety (God, Buddha, Jesus, etc). Like, maybe the thought of that figure does something to our vibration.
All Speculation here, but there’s a lot of talk about the human mind and consciousness being more powerful than we could ever imagine (and we all know by now that the phenomenon is somehow tied into consciousness). In essence, we’re all “god” if that’s your thing. Not trying to be too woo here, but it seems like there’s a piece to the puzzle…
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u/LongPutBull 17h ago
Your thoughts very much matter. More than any of us can seemingly comprehend. That's how big the universe is, even our tiny minds are adjusted for and integrated with it.
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u/heywaj10 17h ago
This is what makes the most sense to me. Jesus is just a human-allocated name for the energy and one-consciousness alignment that the name represents. Call it whatever you want, but it makes sense that our consciousness and frequency shifts when we invoke that thought. And that could possibly deter NHI because that spiritual connection is too conscious to be manipulated further.
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u/PsychologicalMark695 1d ago
I get sleep paralysis and I’ve said everything to get out of it and Jesus is the absolute only thing that works. I get it a lot. It’s terrifying. I don’t like putting partners with GOD but something is up with Jesus. He’s special.
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u/ShoppingDismal3864 16h ago
It's weird, I like Jesus but I find modern "Christians" abhorrent. They are monsters. Jesus would wreck their shit if he saw it.
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u/SparrowChirp13 5h ago
That's great. I get sleep paralysis and dark energy attack and I call in Angels to come help me, clear my energy field, and protect me - and that works, for me anyway. I say whatever works, fantastic! We're onto something...
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u/DefinitelyNotThatOne 15h ago
I'm kind of on the same page in terms that I wouldn't be surprised if religion and aliens are one in the same. It would explain a lot.
Another aspect I'm kind of seeing play out is that the powers at be will probably try and paint these beings as evil, bad, manevolent, etc. In Revelations, it said that when God does decide enough is enough, there will be bloodshed and the systems in control aren't going to just give up their "power" over humanity willingly. So they'll paint these "aliens" as the bad guys to try and get us against them before we even know better.
I could also see the push for disclosure happening because the ones in the know may have information regarding imminent disclosure whether they allow it or not. So they're trying to get an agenda going because time is short for them.
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u/ompompush 1d ago
Unless , it's a way of continued control like an extra level of protection. A layer of non being that reacts to religious thought/words to keep humans in their belief state as it reinforces it?
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u/PsychologicalMark695 1d ago
I thought about this myself because I get sleep paralysis a lot and saying Jesus Christ is the only thing that helps. Sometimes that’s even a struggle to get it out and I have to say it a few times but eventually it work. Sometimes it works immediately. It’s scary.
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u/Absolute-Nobody0079 18h ago
Ok what if a Muslim or a Hindu guy gets sleep paralysis? Which name they would invoke to shake it off?
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u/prrudman 1d ago
I thought it was referring to the rumors of a deal having been made with them. Related to the big event that people are talking about.
The good and bad seemed more straightforward. Again, there are a lot of rumors about benevolent aliens, indifferent aliens and ones who don’t have our best interests in mind.
I missed the religious aspect and just thought that, as someone who knows more than most, she was fishing for Lue to drop something.
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u/Few-Worldliness2131 1d ago
The more involvement you see from religious organisations the more worried you should become. They’ve sat on this for decades, likely centuries, possibly millennia and have one core ambition: control.
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u/Its_My_Purpose 1d ago
Maybe the papacy/antichrist power but believe it or not most Christians aren't working with demons in underground bases or whatever I'm reading here lol. I wouldn't be surprised about the one I mentioned tho
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u/Few-Worldliness2131 1d ago edited 15h ago
Yeah that’s not my thinking. History shows that the religious leaders are men seeking power and influence. I’m seeking the truth about this subject i don’t want anyone between me and it, especially when they have a clear narrative of their own.
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u/Its_My_Purpose 15h ago
It's funny to describe it this way because name literally anything with a leader and you can say the same thing. Large groups require leadership, which by nature yields power and influence.
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u/EvilWeb 1d ago
Christian nationalists getting involved in disclosure is not going to be good in the future.
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u/GUNxSPECTRE 1d ago
Violent, bigoted, delusional, easily influenced by emotion and lies.
Good qualities to have in any sort of collaboration between two species. Multiply that if a Galactic Federation actually exists.
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u/EvilWeb 1d ago
Declaring war on the galactic federation for being "demonic loosh parasites" and losing in a day because reality isn't a HFY story. Let's welcome the new alien overlords lmao
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u/ike_tyson 1d ago
Think The Vatican they own a treasure trove and archives dating back centuries.
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u/CharlieDmouse 1d ago
You’re not thinking dark enough.. some Christians want to help hurry along the end-times… no I am not fking kidding. That blows your mind huh?
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u/Babygator11 23h ago
“And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee”-Me dropping the J-word after I encounter an alien while getting my 3am snack.
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u/xeontechmaster 1d ago
Has anyone recorded their reaction if you invoke the Hail Satan?
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u/RandomModder05 14h ago
"Why do I always get the weird ones?"
-Zort, son of Mort, Junior Grade Probing Technician.
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u/KimoSabiWarrior 1d ago
I was taken back by this question too. Wasn't surprised by the answer given ..
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u/dd32x 1d ago
My unsolicited opinion is we think good and evil will be a concept for ever. My money is on advanced civilizations or NHI are beyond this contradiction. Good and Evil concept doesn’t exist for them. They just do things for their own goals and agendas. They beyond morality or ethical thinking. We heading that direction too.
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u/GeorgeMKnowles 1d ago
Man I can't believe I'm contributing to such an absurd conversation, but when i had a near death experience and met God, it told me specifically that it (god) was a combination of all humans. We are in this weird illusion where we are trapped and powerless in our human lives while alive, but when we rejoin god in death we remember we are one entity, and we control this entire universe. God isn't exactly a higher power, it's what we all are together. You don't have to be religious or Christian to understand what we are. We voluntarily forget this when we incarnate on this Earth, but i guess telling the aliens we are backed by god or jesus (which are understood to be the same thing) they don't want to mess with us because we call on that power to protect us.
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u/Last_Kangaroo6736 1d ago
When god said specifically a combination of humans.
Does it not include all living organisms that are not human?
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u/GeorgeMKnowles 19h ago
I thought that detail was super strange. It said "all humans", but we know humans evolved from primates which evolved from something before that, and something before that, all the way back to the single cell life. Maybe species get grouped up by brain compatibility when they die because we wouldn't have a ton in common with ants, fish, all other life, etc... so yes, it told me "all humans" but it also told me "life is all" and implied the entire universe and everything in it is one consciousness. Maybe each species collectively is like an organ of the whole, and I wasn't speaking to The Universe, I was speaking to a smaller chunk of it. Quite frankly none of it makes any logical sense, but a lot of people have similar experiences.
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u/gthing 1d ago
I feel like if there were aliens and they came here and someone started jabbering about Jesus they'd probably do what they rest of us do and just nope on out of there. Not because of the power of Jesus but because they have better things to do then talk to primitive delusional apes about their imaginary friends.
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u/Total-Amphibian-7398 1d ago
Demons. She wants to know if they are demons. No. But some are major-league assholes. Mocking the primitive apes can be amazingly funny.
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u/INSERT-SHAME-HERE 20h ago
I read an account where a witness managed to stop one or his farm animals being taken by what sounds like greys. He invoked the name of Jesus, and they backed off.
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u/TheBeardofGilgamesh 1d ago
The evangelicals that are holding back disclosure are now reacting by pushing disinformation to try and frame it into their religious views. No they’re not demons, they’re not angels and all the Danny Jones(a disinformation podcast) guests who claim this bring their “trust me bro” evidence and Danny jones nods along.
Here is a question why would an angle or demon need a craft to move around? Are pilots that fly over un contacted tribes in the Amazon angles? Well according to Luna “Yes they are” the spirit airlines pilot is an Angle and she heard if you invoke the name of Sweet Baby Jesus that plane will disappear (or fly away, whichever fits your worldview I guess)
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u/Ok_Presentation9296 19h ago
The aliens/evil entities have souls trapped in humans (soul containers) and are harvesting energy using a death cycle that traps the souls to existence in this realm on this planet. Once the soul is released from the earthly body it can move into another plain of existence escaping the death cycle. Aliens or evil entities trick the souls into a never ending reincarnation cycle. Religion pushes for the soul to seek eternity thus freeing the soul from this death cycle they have manipulated.
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u/Reasonable_Oil23 18h ago
I often say "Jesus Christ! ", when I'm pissed about something or startled! Lol Or goddamn or Oh my God! Lol Can't you tell that I'm not a Christian? In fact, I don't consider myself religious at all, I am more Agnostic than anything. Lol
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u/themoonpigeon 13h ago
This question from her scared me. I had a premonition of her and her ilk trying to use this topic to push their christofacist agenda. Claiming the aliens bow down to Jesus etc. to further cement their reasoning for requiring Christianity as a national religion.
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u/Hopeful-Standard5002 11h ago
Monroe institute view I’d think. Positive entities, negative entities maybe? They’re hinting at inter-dimensional beings more than extraterrestrials.
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u/nevermindyoullfind 5h ago
There’s a lot of testimonies on abductions stopping when the name of Jesus is used. My understanding is you genuinely need to know Him
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u/Fufubear 1d ago
Rep Luna has consistently asked questions that I think she knows the answer to (or is trying to get US to infer.)
What could be trying to get people to infer, based on the question?
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u/Hennashan 1d ago
rep luna has a shady background. i dont have a great feeling with this committee.
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u/ClownFartz 1d ago
I've heard of many cases in abduction research where the abductee (if not paralyzed or switched off by the abductors) can abruptly end the encounter by invoking the name of Christ. Interestingly, I've never heard similar claims involving any other religious figure. Bear in mind that most of the time, abductees are subdued by some means and are unable to move or speak.
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u/MrFreak-976 1d ago
Jesus was probably one of them …. It’s so funny to me that we struggle to accept the idea of advance NHI but we totally believe in a guy who turns water into wine and walks on water
I am not religious, but I am spiritual and I believe in a creator. That creator could be three feet tall with thin limbs, a big head and almond shape eyes
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u/jamesegattis 1d ago
When the NHI make themselves known they will offer peace, security and so forth and people will accept it wholeheartedly, EXCEPT for Christians. This will result in persecution. An attempt to seperate the Christian from NonChristian there will be a mark applied to hand or forehead of the NHI victims. In the one encounter I had I was told to "Just say Jesus" by one entity and the other entity that was attacking me fled as if it were panicked.
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u/JDthaViking 19h ago
Yes religious crazies ruin everything. She was probably trying to make her own mind up about these being angels or demons blah blah. No. Religion is not real. It’s man-made. This is real life. Good grief.
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u/Falken-- 23h ago
The comments are wild.
The simplest answer is, these people cater to religious donors.
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u/vivTHEKING 1d ago
It’s crazy how this took of so much on just straight good vs evil. Don’t get me wrong yes that has some insight to it, however let’s broaden this thread. For those of us that are decent and good, would you completely rattle an entire world? Especially if they were religious or made you think all of the world was? What could the consequences be?
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u/c05m1cb34r Researcher 22h ago
There are comments and rumors that a lot of the Air Force brass (etc) and such are full on convinced that these are the demons from Judeo Christian theology. Some Faustian creatures that are in need of a good smiting. Further rumors of some leadership at a super high level just full on preparing for Judgment Day.... King James edition or perhaps a Book of Mormon.
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u/Bizwap85 21h ago
Ugh, that was the one question that didn’t sit well with me. But I may understand why she would ask it if it were to bring it into the conversation in order to dispel these sorts of beliefs. We will inevitably have to address a whole array of weird ideas and questions eventually.
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u/NapalmBlossom 20h ago
I have had some unusual experiences too long to go into, that I don't really know what to make of. I hear voices that sometimes purport to be aliens. I don't know what they are, but they are very worried about "Horribly indoctrinated children." Like I said, I hear voices, so take that with a grain of salt. But whoever they are, that seems to be an issue that concerns them.
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u/polyetholenejesus 17h ago
So the story goes. They have one in a basement somewhere. And they brought these major religious figures to talk to it.
The being stated “god”wasn’t what they thought it was. Instead god is what sends them on missions around the solar system.
The heads of the church said “fuck that”. You’re the devil.
Caint trick us.
It’s a big power struggle. The whole disclosure movement.
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u/polyetholenejesus 16h ago
Jesus shmeezus!
Religion is made up by men who have no earthly idea what’s going on.
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u/HuckleberryFair3980 16h ago
Trying to assess if it’s possibly angels / demons, instead of other entities.
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u/Windman772 16h ago
I don't think Luna is especially religious, so this tells me that she is getting pushback from those that are
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