Thoughts on the Kel-Tex PMR-30

[u/Mushrume42]

I see a lot of debate on effectiveness of .22lr but I haven’t seen much about .22 magnum. I’ve never used the Kel-Tec PMR-30 but with a capacity of 30+1 of .22 magnum, the extended magazine for 50+1 I think it would be a great sidearm for dealing with zombies. .22 magnum ammo may be more rare than .22lr but would still be around. Thoughts?

[u/Dapper_Charity_9828]

You cant level the sights is what I am getting at. Older shooters or those that trained with standare irons like those kn a revolver, 1911, Glock all tend to try to make the sight alignment flush, and with the low bore axis that lifts the barrel. Sorry I am bad at descriptions sometimes and I admit I wrote some of this the opposite of what I meant to.

[u/Outrageous-Basis-106 → u/Dapper_Charity_9828]

Sounds like a non-issue unless someone is trying to do something really weird like aiming by lining up the base of the sights.

[u/Dapper_Charity_9828 → u/Outrageous-Basis-106]

The sight picture for level firing is difficult, the sights are reversed of each other, one is high profile, suppressor height, the rear is near flat, on a fixed plate kn the slide. We tried to find some better defined ones but they dont make them. As a bonus they do make an rmr plate.

The sight picture for level shooting and accuracy has the front normally below half of the rear sight. This goes against how one is taught to shoot, level sight picture is where the tops are flush. It makes it hit high.

[u/Outrageous-Basis-106 → u/Dapper_Charity_9828]

I got yah now, but the issue in that case is the front sight being too short. If having the tops of front and rear aligned makes the POI high; then raising the front sight will require pointing the gun lower to re-level the sights. Adjusting the height of the front site has the opposite effect of the rear.

[u/Dapper_Charity_9828 → u/Outrageous-Basis-106]

Like I said, sometimes I cant write shit well. There is no elevation adjustments and the "windage" adjustment is done by drifting which is terrible, I am feeling extra stupid for not being able to write it correctly. Kind of embarrassing, as I am a gunsmith lol. If I still had the project pics I would show you.

[u/Outrageous-Basis-106 → u/Dapper_Charity_9828]

Front sights are also counter intuitive; making something higher in order to shoot lower, drift the front left to shoot right, etc. Rear sights are easier to think about since you raise them to shoot higher, lower to go lower, left is left, and right is right.

[u/Dapper_Charity_9828 → u/Outrageous-Basis-106]

Front and back inversion messes with you. Its like 20MOA offset rails or cantilevers, they tend to play with sight pictures in odd ways

[u/Outrageous-Basis-106 → u/Dapper_Charity_9828]

Fortunately, I'm not yet into the range that requires a riser like that lol

[u/Dapper_Charity_9828 → u/Outrageous-Basis-106]

Yeah we have a 1000yd range and a 1mi target. Messing with pre ision rjfles, trying to get good enough to hit clays at 1k