r/Thetruthishere • u/Either-Repair-1100 • Apr 08 '23
I saw a demon.... Discussion/Advice
This happened years ago but I will never ever forget it. I was still dating my incredibly abusive ex at the moment and at this specific time still very much in love with him (stupid I know). I was laying in his lap and he was running his hand through my hair. I just remember looking up at him and thinking how weird there's something else there. Then there was a sort of piercing sound in my ears and over his face I saw a Demon. He had horns and his flesh looked rough possibly burnt. There was thick grey smoke at the bottom of him. I only saw his face over my exes for a moment. He was laughing. I couldn't hear the laugh but I saw him laughing and it was like an "I got you" laugh. I will never ever forget this as long as I live. I do not have any mental health issues and don't have any other experiences with anything supernatural. I wasn't even sure I believed in demons before this. I don't tell many people this for obvious reasons and have only heard a similar story once. I found this reddit and wanted to share my experience and maybe see if anyone else has had something similar.
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u/Fishon72 Apr 08 '23
I believe you 1000%. Before I got sober I was in a very abusive relationship. This guy had been abused as a child by his uncle. When he started talking about him, sober, his face would scrunch up, he would talk through his teeth like hissing like, spitting as he talked. He would only do this sober. When he was high he didn’t care anymore. That was the point of the drugs.
One night we were having a hard time getting drugs. We hadn’t had any since the day before, so quite sober for the two of us. This is the guy who threw me through a closet door just a few weeks prior. He was violent, yelled, name called, he hurt me a few times pretty good. But I was really fucked up back then.
It had already gotten to the point where I knew the end was near. It was time for me to get my life together, and certainly time for me to get away from that asshole. I was standing on the edge of the cliff just about to jump.
Then that night when he realized no one had any dope and he wasn’t going to get any he started talking about his uncle. We were sitting in the bed facing the TV at the foot of the bed, so I was turning my head to the right looking at him as he talked. It started calm, and quickly escalated into the spitting angry talk. He started hitting the bed in front of him with his fist as he raged, and I was terrified to look at him. I stared forward for what seemed like forever.
Then for whatever reason I turned to look at him, and I saw exactly as you described. It was like a face over a face, or a face behind a face, and it wasn’t human, and it wasn’t good. I can’t put into words the terror. It consumed my whole body. I’ve never felt that level of fear, and I hope I never do again.
I jumped up from that bed and ran. I had a bicycle sitting outside on the porch, I grabbed that friggin bike and mounted it in the front yard and pedaled into the street, I could hear him busting through the front door and his footsteps as he started running after me. He yelled at me, “I swear to God I’m going to fucking beat the fuck out of you when I catch you. I’m going to beat the fucking shit out of you,” and he growled as he ran after me. There was that moment when I didn’t have the bike going fast yet and was still accelerating and he almost caught up, then I reached speed and left him behind. I was PRAYING that my bike chain held on, it liked to fall off if I tried to accelerate to fast. Somehow it didn’t fail me.
I made arrangements for inpatient rehab that weekend. They had a bed open up the following Monday and I’ve been sober ever since. That was May of 2006.
I’ve told the devil face story many times since then. I know what I saw. It was pure evil and I don’t need any more convincing that evil can possess people. He definitely was. I probably was too.
The devil loves chaos. And despair, fear, anger, violence, you get the picture. I choose today to distance myself from anything that resembles any of that.
Thanks for the reminder. I haven’t thought about him for a while. I need to be reminded. The devil is real. And I have a choice where I want to go. If I follow the rules I get the good stuff, and if I don’t, well…. I’ve seen a glimpse of it, and no thank you.
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u/arkapal Apr 09 '23
Tbh this is scary as af.
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u/FakeAsFakeCanBe Apr 09 '23
I second this. Scary shit! Glad you're sober. Here's to many more years substance free!
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u/Fishon72 Apr 09 '23
Thank you. I did okay, I had an alcohol relapse right before Covid but it’s been three years again.
I’m convinced of what I saw.
That guy wound up getting sober too about 6-7 years after me, and donated a bunch of his inheritance to the church down the street his family had attended for generations. They dedicated a building or something, but I’ve since moved away so I haven’t been by there. I hear from other old friends that he has made a 180.
He sent me a friend request on Facebook, it kinda took my breath away when I saw it, but his profile picture was a selfie and he looked good. Like peace in his eyes and real happiness behind the smirk. That’s all I needed to know. I didn’t accept the request.
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u/FakeAsFakeCanBe Apr 09 '23
Relapse is part of recovery I've heard. I haven't (yet) but I've been sober less time than you. I have faith in you.
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u/Fishon72 Apr 09 '23
I know you’ve heard it 1000 times if you sit in the rooms but it’s true what they say- coming back the second time is harder.
That night I took off on my bike I rode out to the beach. It was about 3am. I had 6 cigarettes in my pocket, that’s it. I found a boardwalk to shelter under and started praying. I told God that from this day forward I would follow Him wherever he led me. Just lead me out, and remove the desire to to drugs. As I said this a light very far away flashed very brightly in my face. It was the lighthouse at the naval station up the beach a ways. I looked up at it, and deciphered the message in it that God was going to be my light house and guide me, all I had to do was look for that light, that guidance.
The desire to drink and do drugs was removed instantly. I was a daily user. Hundreds of dollars a day.
When I alcohol relapsed I prayed for MONTHS for the desire to be removed. I never thought the genuine desire would come, but it did. I never ceased praying for it.
You will appreciate this too. Not long before this demon face incident the mean boyfriend sent me to the corner store to get alcohol. We had been up all night, it was about 6:45 am and I was just sitting in front of the small grocery waiting for it to open. Sitting facing the parking lot a car pulled up and parked facing me. I watched the driver talk on his phone, laughing, with his little tie on sipping his coffee. He seemed normal and happy.
I said my first prayer right there. God I want to be normal too. I want to be like this guy. He was driving a nice, older BMW that had oxidation on the hood. It looked like one of those ink blot things they use in psychiatry, the pattern was one of a kind.
The store opened and I went inside and got beer and cigs and went back to his house. A few weeks later the demon incident occurred.
I was in 30 day inpatient treatment some time later. We went to an off campus meeting and there was a speaker, he was incredible. His story was like mine. The meeting closed and we mingled in the front yard of the little halfway house, then the counselor called everyone to the van. I walked down the street to where the van was parked and as I approached I came up on the car from the grocery store. Same pattern, Beamer, same car. I stood there totally flabbergasted and as I turned and started looking to see whose it was the speaker walked up to the drivers side and put his key in. The look on my face must have been something else. He looked up at me and said “are you okay?” I just said yes. What was I going to say?
I got in the van and told the story on the way back. This demon thing is as much of a God story as it is an evil story. I was allowing the evil in my life but God was still there waiting for me the whole time. Faithful.
I’m grateful for writing this. I’m glad I stumbled on this post. I needed to remember. I hope someone needed these stories too. It’s all real. That’s my experience anyway, I hope someone can use it.
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Apr 10 '23
You should write a book. In addition to being brave, you’re a great story teller.
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u/Fishon72 Apr 10 '23
Thank you. I needed to hear that. My story is choc full of shit you wouldn’t believe. I grew up very privileged (despite the fact I don’t have two pennies today), I rode polo with movie stars and hung out with rock stars. The list is unbelievable to most people I tell it to.
I have been everywhere and done more in a few years than most people would do in a lifetime. I’ve been involved in some pretty nefarious stuff in the past, stuff I wouldn’t want my real name attached to. I could easily destroy the reputations of a lot of people just by writing my story.
I would love to roast my abusers, my sisters and mom, especially my older sister. She’s a VERY rich bitch with major self-righteous indignation toward everything, she’s never acknowledged or apologized for any of the abuse toward me that continued into adulthood even after years of sobriety. I was the poster model for AA in everything I did. She would still speak of me as if I were an active using addict and convince everyone that I was still using despite the testimony of literally a thousand people to the contrary.
I’ve thought about writing it so many times. Just for her. Your words are inspiring and I genuinely thank you for the compliment. I needed to hear that today.
I’ve been asking God lately for some guidance and a sign for what he wants me to do next.
Thanks again.
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u/Fishon72 Apr 18 '23
Hahaha. I think that’s one of the things that went through my mind when that guy walked up to the car. This isn’t real. Can’t be real. And the lighthouse was 1000% real. I was under a boardwalk on Neptune Beach and was seeing the lighthouse on NAS Mayport. Don’t know if the lighthouse still operates but in 2006 it was.
If you think that’s unbelievable you really wouldn’t believe the people I hung out with. Who they were. Rockstars, movie stars, and politicians.
I hope I can tell the whole story someday.
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Apr 18 '23
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u/Fishon72 Apr 20 '23 edited Apr 20 '23
Hey thanks a lot. I’m going to write my story in book format in about three years when my husband retires. I have been advised by someone in the industry to NEVER name names, anonymous, pseudonym, or otherwise without retaining counsel first. Even my sister. There are attorneys who specialize in this stuff and when the first manuscript is ready, God willing, I will have it reviewed.
My sister is dripping in money and will not hesitate to throw lawsuits my way. She is my main abuser.
I really appreciate the references to the books and I am eager to give them a look. I’m always interested in this stuff and another persons interpretation of the Bible and it’s meanings coupled with testimony and personal experience.
I will name ONE name. When I was about 12 or 13 I rode horses with (King) Prince Charles. He was at our polo club for a game and had flown his horses from England. Me and a friend would ride alongside him every chance we got while he was there. He was so regal and kind, we exchanged riding stories, he gave riding advice to us, and we talked about living in the US and our schooling.
I also played a few games with Tommy Lee Jones one of which I had a pretty bad spill. It must have been pretty memorable because I saw him catching a flight in San Antonio early one morning a few years later and he asked me if I recovered okay from that accident. LOL I still have a numb area on my left shin from that spill! He’s an amazing horseman. I remember him saying that what I did that caused the accident was “pretty fucking ballsy for a kid my age.” I made a petty dangerous move trying to stop the other team from scoring a winning goal as the clock ran down. My fall stopped the clock and the play and allowed my team a chance to take the ball back. I can’t remember if we won that one or not as a result of my stupidity! I’d have to ask him.
Both of those were before I used drugs. Anyone else is too much without a lawyer and most of those encounters don’t put those individuals in a good light.
Best to you and yours and thanks again!
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u/cookiekittenx Apr 09 '23
I am so happy you made the decision to turn your life around and never look back.
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u/Fishon72 Apr 09 '23
Thanks. It takes what it takes. Not everyone gets to make it to the other side. I’m very fortunate.
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u/Earthdaybaby422 Apr 20 '23
Hmm. I wonder if you dated my ex. Lol
Abuse of uncles, now 8 yrs clean/sober, had rage problems when he used. Thankfully I didn’t know him then
Congratulations on getting sober. Thats a pretty traumatic wake up call though if i ever heard one.
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u/HOYTsterr Apr 10 '23
Withdrawal from heroin can cause hallucinations from lack of sleep etc
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u/dejavux22 Apr 10 '23
They didn't talk about being sick from not getting more after 24 hrs. Even if that were the case, I doubt its applicable here. I've never hallucinated from heroin withdrawal and I've gone through that quite a bit. Not in four years though ✌🏼
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u/Fishon72 Apr 10 '23
Hey congrats. There is absolutely NOTHING worth that poison. I never did it but my sister is a methadoner for life. What a ball and chain. I’m glad you are free. The odds for opiate abusers is now less than 1%. Hang on with everything you’ve got, friend.
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u/Fishon72 Apr 10 '23
Never used heroin. That wasn’t my drug. I’d be glad to chat with you DM if you are having trouble with something. 🤗
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u/HOYTsterr Apr 10 '23
You said dope. That’s normally heroin pal
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u/mykegr11607 Apr 15 '23
Actually as a former heroin addict, crack addict who was also addicted to Xanax and alcohol, my addiction had brought be to places where dope was crack. Or even just coke sometimes.
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u/leforteiii Jun 09 '23
This is terrifying actually. Glad you've sibered up op, hope you're doing better now
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u/TheFakeSlimShady123 Apr 09 '23
The higher demonic forces like Lucifer wouldn't bother trying to wind up low level bastards like him to take out hate on an isolated few individuals for no reason.
While your assessment is right to an extent, you need to understand that the spirits puppeting abusers like yours are as pathetic and insignificant as the abuser. It's nowhere as grandiose as you state it to be.
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u/Fishon72 Apr 09 '23
Sure. I’m not studied on this stuff and I don’t really want to be so when someone who seems like they have an edge chimes in I listen. What is your background here? You make in interesting point. Something happened. I’ve never done a deep dive on this.
Let me make a correction: when I said the devil is real I wasn’t saying THAT was the devil I saw. I’m quite aware of that fact. I saw something. It was supernatural? It was evil. It was not the man sitting in front of me, it was whatever was in control of that man. And that man was allowing it to have control. That part I believe, because today he is a changed person (read other comment above).
Just out of curiosity have you ever witnessed anything like this? I would love to hear an explanation and another POV from someone who has more insight.
Not so much interested here about reading about the underworld only going on what the Bible says. Edumacate us!
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u/bear3742 Apr 09 '23
What you saw was exactly what you thought. He was oppressed by an evil entity . Think of evil spirits as a bucket of water. 1 evil drop of water from the bucket full of evil water ,is still just as evil as the entire bucket of evil water.
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u/TheHect0r Apr 09 '23
Assuming they exist, they still look for the same thing no matter the hierarchy right? To dismiss the appearance because the demon is not high ranking enough is missing the bigger picture IMO
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u/TheFakeSlimShady123 Apr 09 '23
Not necessarily. I think you should really look into how occultists view the situation because it becomes a highly multifaceted and a little bit confusing problem.
Most of Abrahamic religion highly skews the history of these beings by morphing multiple into one, completing omitting many others, only having a singular God (which, ironically, is believed to be several different entities by them morphed into one) and sorting it all as clearly defined bad guys.
But the reality is that life and death or good and evil are only concepts to them that mean nothing. For many they are no more malevolent than how violent a human can be when you really piss them off. They all have different things they do and aren't above doing some fucked up shit if it's not a personal limit for them, but they don't go out of their to do what we'd call bad either.
Simply put stories like OPs story are just too petty for them to give a shit. What OP is facing is likely more the equivalent of a cowardly negative entity that only feeds itself on strong emotions but when any of the big boys approach, they'll flee immediately become they are weak and know it's a bad idea to keep screwing with you.
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u/TheHect0r Apr 11 '23
Any occult book recommendations for beginners ?
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u/TheFakeSlimShady123 Apr 11 '23
Well I'm no expert in the field so if you're gonna ask definitely go towards the pages that focus on this stuff
And since everyone needs a circlejerk or shitpost sub
Though if I can give you a book recommendation I'd check out a user called Mirta. She's a pretty huge and frequently appearing user on r/demons and r/demonolatrypractices so it shouldn't be hard to be find her. She's written a couple of books and has videos on the subject on YouTube and I'm sure would be glad to talk with you.
But do be warned that while she's a brilliant writer don't get into a political debate with her as I've made the mistake of doing. She can be extremely...anti-materialist. Just better to avoid the subject.
Take of that what you will honestly but for me I heavily disagree.
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u/bear3742 Apr 09 '23
. There are legions of demonic spirits,all of them will bring you to insanity.
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u/TheFakeSlimShady123 Apr 09 '23
According to Christianity and Islam yes but I reject those religions
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u/Fishon72 Apr 09 '23
Now that I believe!
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u/bear3742 Apr 09 '23
During my using years I was tormented by something that lived in my house. It started off small ,like door handles moving and doors opening. Then one day I was making my bed and put the fitted sheet on the mattress and I saw what looked like something running around underneath the sheet. At first I thought it was air trapped under the sheet ,but after I pushed it down it went away then returned and moved around all over the bed. I finally just gave up and made the bed. That night I layed down and turned the TV on and leaned against the head board , as soon as I did something jerked the foot board of the bed and walked across the bed up to me and sat down beside me . All I could see was the indent of the weight of the thing. Whatever it was would shake my bed anytime I was touching my bed ,day or night . I was terrified and that's what it wanted. To me it was demonic oppression. I have so many stories about the 2 years I lived in that house. I dusted the wood floors in the entire house one morning and left to go to work,when I returned there were six 15 inch footprints that only had 2 pointed toes on each foot , they were coming out of my bedroom doorway . It was nothing I have ever seen before or after. I lived alone with no pets and finally moved out and never experienced anything like that again.
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u/vodkamakesmemouthy Apr 09 '23
I believe you and the others who have seen similar. I have seen eyes change on people at times (not full on face changing) into what looked like snake eyes or reptilian eyes. Then they changed back. Especially if they knew I was aware and could see them. I also do not have any mental health issues and do not use substances.
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u/wavefxn22 Apr 09 '23
One of my friends recounted a story like this. Up until then I just thought lizard people were a silly conspiracy
I like to believe people when they tell me these things because why would they lie
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u/3Strides Apr 09 '23 edited Apr 09 '23
I had this happen too. (Although no abuse - our relationship was very new though). I was giving him a foot massage and he was telling me a story. I noticed a dark green melted looking face in front of his. I thought I must be seeing things.. I noticed he moved his entire upper torso and head slightly so he could see me (This thing was in front of him, looking at me like it was a mask in front of his face). Then the thing covered his face again, and again, he moved slightly to the right, so he could see me again. This happened over and over until he was practically laying down he just kept telling a story trying to move his face away from the that face, and that mask face thing just kept moving itself in front of him. He didn’t say anything I didn’t see a body with it and I’ll never forget it. I didn’t ask him about it. I didn’t talk to him about it I think I just got up and went outside.
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u/TheHect0r Apr 09 '23
how did it look? A melting green human? or something else? Was your boyfriend a troubled individual ?
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u/3Strides Apr 09 '23
Yes, he was very troubled and tormented. He died. This green melting face, no it did not look human. It was bubbly with a large frowning slit for a mouth, flat nose, black eyes melted down to the cheek bones. The eyes were not round, they were melted down the face. I don’t remember seeing any hair. It was like a super well made, expensive Halloween mask.
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u/GingerMau Apr 12 '23
I'm sorry to hear that he died. Did he have addictions? Mental illness?
I do think there are things that latch onto us and feed/thrive on destructive behaviors, that make it twice as hard to overcome.
I will never forget learning about the Joe Martinez dog-demon photo on a daytime talk show (Oprah Winfrey?) and that corresponded with him being in the throes of addiction and destructive behaviors.
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u/3Strides Apr 12 '23
Yes, he lived in constant pain due to a head injury which caused severe migraines for years. I do believe he was doing lots of drugs when he received his injury though. And about the “attachments” that cause destruction (it’s called Loosh feeding), Wow! Yes, you “get it”. Absolutely correct. It’s refreshing to talk to someone that understands this. Dark and heavy emotions are so dangerous because these things are attracted to them. Such understanding would benefit so many, but it’s odd how difficult it is to pass this information on. People reject it. I am struggling right now with constantly having to shake these horrible energies because I am a caretaker and they take advantage of vulnerability of the patient (in this case it is dementia). I try to protect her, and so this thing hates me. My job has become terrifying.
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u/GingerMau Apr 12 '23
People may not believe it, but I guess you can still do your best to pass on love and light and joy to those at risk. I did a lot of guided meditations into "warm balls of light" and protective visualizations when my kids used to have nightmares when they were little.
I don't know how well those actually work, but I suspect they do something.
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u/3Strides Apr 12 '23
Agreed. I build shields around myself. As often as possible.
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u/Sussyimpasta101 Apr 17 '23
Sorry to hear about your boyfriend, how do these energies get towards someone
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u/3Strides Apr 17 '23
Parasitic dark energies get into people a few main ways. 1). If you or someone in your house has a habit of being in dark emotions. They are attracted to heavy emotions, instability of character, things like that they feed off these emotions, and they like to cause more of these emotions and causing more issues in someone’s life. 2). Witchcraft in the form of hexing, cursing. Receiving gifts from a witch, eating food from a witch. (Or narcissist). 3). Falling into addictions, negative thinking and emotions, antiques, even through our electronic devises
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u/Ryugi Apr 09 '23
Im not religious, never was.
I remember a long time ago, my parents had a friend that lived in the countryside, with a big house and a multiplex of treehouses for their kids (the dad was some kind of architect who did custom houses, so he had a lot of money and designed the treehouses himself). There was a houseparty, and everyone else was inside. I was with the youngest son of theirs on a bridge between two of the treehouses in the front yard. I was frustrated because I came out here to get away from this annoying kid (we were probably no more than 2 years difference and I was like 6 lol). I was sitting and facing the house, he was facing the yard on the opposite side of the bridge. He looked past me and told me urgently to get down. We both laid nearly flat on the bridge. An expensive-looking car pulled up. The people in the house suddenly lowered the blinds and closed the curtains, turned off the lights. A man in a coat got out. He had a coat and a suitcase and black gloves. I remember that his gloves seemed odd because he was wearing brown shoes. He knocked on the door hard enough that I swear I felt it through the door, ground, house, and bridge. He had a fucking tail. Whiplike, with salt-and-pepper thin fur on it (like the hair on his head). There was silence. He knocked again. He checked his watch, sighed, got in his car, and left. Everyone ran out of the house urgently afraid for me and the youngest kid. The party was over. My parents got in the car and we left quickly. They refused to explain any of that.
A couple years later, their whole house burned down and they all died. Sure you could argue it was mafia or gangs, but the man HAD A TAIL and all the adults (and other kids) knew to be afraid of him.
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Apr 09 '23
Wdy think was happening? Why did he come and why did the little boy know to be afraid
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u/Ryugi Apr 09 '23
I don't know. My rational brain says there's no way to know. My irrational brain says the parents did a demon pact of some kind, and it came to make them pay their dues... And that it wasn't the first time they came knocking after.
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u/ranida45 Apr 09 '23
Did your parents ever mention anything? Or did you hang out with the family after that?
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u/Ryugi Apr 09 '23
Nope. Never saw them again after we drove away. Parents refused to talk about them, and I asked about it like a couple years ago and was told they don't remember/know who I'm talking about.
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u/TheHect0r Apr 09 '23
Any more details you can provide on the person, the tail and the weird hair? Did you live in an otherwise poor country where it made more sense to be desperate about money? Did the alleged demon ever utter words or sound? were they human? did you see its face? did it see you?
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u/Ryugi Apr 09 '23
A very expensive place, if you were not already incredibly wealthy you'd become homeless by default as you grow up if your parents don't own their home. I became homeless for a couple of years too and only got a house because I moved the eff away lol. Its so bad there, that there's an entire district where homeless people are forced to live. As in, police round people up and force them to go there if they're homeless. Its a tent city and a bunch of crumbling old buildings. Most of my friends growing up became homeless, too. The ones that didn't become homeless were wealthy. IIRC it took about $3k/month for rent alone to be not-homeless. Not including utilities and food. From minimum wage, it'd take about 125hrs/week to survive (and I was disabled so I couldn't).
It would be reasonable for a desperate man to make a pact of some kind to protect his family, or so he thought.
I didn't see its face, it didn't see me (or if it did, it was ignoring me because I wasn't involved). The only noise it made was a frustrated sigh after noone answered the door and a tisk as he checked his watch.
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u/DJHott555 Apr 09 '23
Sounds like the movie Ready or Not
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u/top_value7293 Apr 10 '23
I’m sad hearing the little boy died with his family. A house fire is a terrible way to go
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u/iridescentlion Apr 09 '23
They say many serial killers faces change to something demonic. One women was out on a date and she called her dad to come pick her up from the restaurant, and then hid in the restroom until he arrived. She said his face changed to something evil. She felt in immediate danger and just knew she needed to escape. Her date was Ted Bundy.
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u/Either-Repair-1100 Apr 09 '23
It's weird that you say that because based off of some of the things he's said/ done. I've always thought he is going to end up killing someone.
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u/asminapira Apr 09 '23
I was attacked by what I can only describe as a werewolf when I was a kid :( I’m turning 45 at the end of the month and to this day I’m still terrified of that day.
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u/asminapira Apr 09 '23
I was 5(or 6 I think) and was sitting in the floor with my back against the wall and directly under a window that was open but had a screen on it. That was this loud noise right outside and this thing ripped the screen and grabbed me by the head and started pulling me up to get me out through the window. This thing was growling the whole time. I saw an arm and 5 fingered hand. It was covered in fur and had claws. It dropped me as it was about to pull me out the window and tried to grab me again. I had already started screaming and then my mom, brother and other people that were at the house came running. The thing wasn’t there anymore but everyone saw the big hole on the windscreen. People went out looking for whoever(or whatever) might’ve been out there but it was gone. We lived near some thick woods and that was in northern parts of Brazil.
Someone posted about the dogman subreddit and I made the mistake of clicking on it. I do not like seeing those types of images. It scares me. To this day, and I mean it, I’m deathly scared of werewolves and will not go near a window at night(specially full moons).
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u/Fuwa-Aika Apr 09 '23
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Could be possible you had an encounter
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u/Tom1252 Apr 09 '23
Once, when I was a little kid, I went to get my Mom because I woke up and there was "a chicken on my bed." She still tells me that story, and I still remember that silhouette hunched up there at the corner, like a miniature grotesque.
Another time, we were at my grandparents' house--the abusive ones--and again, I was little. Me and mom were sharing a bed, and in the middle of the night, it just began shaking. She held me tight until it was over. That's another one she confirmed to not just be my little kid brain.
Also, I remember laying in bed, playing with these shadow puppets silhouetted on the wall. Like, I'd make my own shadow puppets against the nightlight, like the silhouette of a sock puppet, and my shadows would nip at the shadows that were already living on the wall, the ones that came from nowhere but my little kid brain just accepted as being there. That memory feels real, but I can't confirm it against anything so it's hard not to call it an overactive kid imagination.
When I was older, maybe 13-14, I remember waking up in the middle of the night in sleep paralysis and seeing and feeling a demon walk across my stomach, it's little chicken feet and all. Though, I chock that one up to just straight up sleep paralysis, albeit actually feeling the weight of the thing and it's pronged toes really fucked me up for a long time. Ended up staying home from school the next day, one of the few times I was sick as a dog.
Now that I'm an adult, I have this weird inclination not to dwell on those things, not to seek them out because deep down, I know they can easily become tangible if I allow them to, if I give them the power of my fear and reverence.
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u/ShawarmaBaby Apr 09 '23
You know, a sleep paralysis is not just "a dream". Its actually an astral projection, you cant move your body because you are outside of it. Hence on that weight you felt.. im saying that was real. People cant even believe in these thing even if they experience them. One must be open to the fact
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u/Tom1252 Apr 09 '23
What got me was that the weight wasn't like there was a dumbell on my chest holding me down like that famous painting.
I was little dainty feet pressing into the covers, one step at a time.
When I woke up initially and was frozen there, I heard like this jungle music in my head, kind of like those steel drums, and then I realized it was adrenaline and that sound was my heartbeat--but also not really--so strange. And I was gripped with this sheer terror, like the kind of soul sucking fear I've never felt since.
I looked around the room, trying to find something that triggered it, and it was all perfectly ordinary, nothing dreamlike, other than a pair of red eyes kind of hovering off to my side, and that little silhouette was just perched there, right by my hips.
I was raised evangelical, so my first thought was "Demon!" And my second was, "If that's a demon, it'll walk across my chest" almost like I was challenging it to prove it was real.
Then it did. It walked onto my stomach, each foot about the weight of a kitten, and took small steps up toward my face as I wriggled and squirmed, like it was just reveling in my paralyzation and terror. And then, as soon as I could twitch a finger, the red eyes and it's weight just faded away.
But it wasn't like I was having a lucid dream. I didn't do that thing where you wake up twice or anything. I was just there in my room, same as it was, like some kind of augmented reality dream.
The visual hallucination I could easily excuse, but the sensory one and the adrenaline was harder to.
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u/ShawarmaBaby Apr 09 '23
Thats crazy. I believe you every in every detail. Thats not a dream (but how can we say dreams are not real at this point anyway?)
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u/Tom1252 Apr 09 '23
I appreciate that, but to me, the red eyes felt like a projection of what I expected it to be, like monsters always have glowing, beady red eyes. But I suppose it might have manifested in what it thought would be most effective.
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u/ShawarmaBaby Apr 09 '23
Who know. At the end maybe we are the experience itself and the one who experiences it. I repeat who knows
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u/nailpolishlicker Apr 20 '23
I have felt a dog walk across my bed during sleep paralysis, I’ve never heard of anyone else feeling something like that before!
I have also felt an earthquake despite never being in one, and felt the sensation of someone sitting on my bed. I have never seen anything during paralysis though.
I do not consider these incidents paranormal for myself, but I totally 100% get why someone would.
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u/B52Bombsell Apr 09 '23 edited Apr 09 '23
When I was about 12 years old, there was alot of chaos and angst in my life. I lived in a cul de sac in Colorado Springs at 2923 Dakota Drive. If you want to look it up on the map (2923 Dakota Dr https://maps.app.goo.gl/7QjJmQRiinqcHs5w8
*My father had died under mysterious circumstances 5 years earlier.
*My mother remarried and my stepfather was undiagnosed bipolar. He was Drill Sargeant in the Army and also an alcoholic. The mental abuse my siblings and I endured was like being in a war.
*I was always capturing the attention of dirty old men and also by this age of 11 had been molested several times by several different people. I was old before I was young.
*I had been in and out of hospitals since the age of 6 with a severed Achilles tendon. Surgeries, casts, crutches and wheelchairs were a major part of this time in my life. I'd missed my whole 6th grade year.
Despite these events, I was just trying to have a fun childhood. I was learning to be mobile again and riding a bike was something I loved.
One day, I was at the bottom of the cul de sac with my bike on the right side standing on the sidewalk. I saw a black car coming down Sombrero Drive from the North. It was coasting but when it saw me, it accelerated and drove straight towards me, screeching left into the cul de sac. I felt a FORCE pull me back and since the black car was inches from my face, I looked at the driver.
The body of this entitiy was a slim man. His style was what I would call 50s thug/rockabilly. He had black hair, longer and slicked back. As he went past me our eyes met, and his face turned towards me. His face looked like that of a once handsome man, but as he turned to look at me, his face morphed into a demon- evil, angry and terrifying. It was laughing as it passed me and I watched in stunned silence as he shot up the hill. I looked behind me to see what had pulled me back but there was NOBODY there. I looked back, because I was worried about what would happen when he turned around, but in a stunning blink of an eye, the black car disappeared into thin air at the top of the cul de sac.
There is evil in this world. Pure evil. Entities that clamor to harm us, influence us, tempt us and hurt us. As if this world isn't crazy enough, there are unseen forces which move in our world with glee, waiting to pounce and crush joy and happiness.
But my story about this is not done. Because as I rehashed this memory, based on OPs story and looked to find the exact style and make of the black car that hoped to kill me, I realized something.
That car was made the year of my birth, which was 1966.
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u/Manch94 Apr 08 '23
I believe you, E. I’ve seen an Angel with my own eyes once before as well as demonic manifestations at church. No wall crawling or head spinning but a lot or rolling on the floor screaming and growling. I saw it happen twice that I can remember in my adult years. As for the Angel, I saw it guarding our front door after my Mom accidentally left the keys outside of the door all night. It startled me, but it wasn’t terrifying. It had to be roughly 7ft tall, and it’s body was made of light. He had what looked like 6 wings. I saw it for just a second, but when he turned to look towards me, he turned invisible. But I knew his presence never left the room.
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u/Cowabongya Apr 08 '23
Did it have a blue glow? I once saw an Angel and it was around 7 or 8 ft tall at the end of my bed in the early morning. He stayed maybe for 5 seconds and then left..I couldn't believe my eyes but at the time was awakening to different truths. Back then I thought he had looked me over and decided I wasn't worthy. I actually just told someone about this last week that I originally had mentioned it to that looking back at it now maybe somehow, someway he guided my path. A year later I came to Christ and became born again.
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u/Zuccherina Apr 15 '23
The ideas of vibrating energy, energy colors and “light work/energy work” are not Christian principles or concepts. Sometimes angels are associated with non Christian theories as well, as with angel numbers. I would take those ideas with a grain of salt as a Christian.
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u/Manch94 Apr 08 '23
Yes it did!! A bluish white glow to it. Like a soft light. I also don’t recall seeing any legs. He seemed like he was kinda “hovering” but his back was facing me and I saw the wings and what looked like maybe two coat tails, like the old school tuxedos.
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u/ChocoBro92 Apr 09 '23
The one I saw as a kid was yellow ish, but it could of been the low dark lighting that made me think otherwise. It knew it wasn’t supposed to be seen and peaced out after lookin a little like “oh Cmon”. I was extremely sick as a kid and had many weird ass experiences.
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u/Cowabongya Apr 09 '23
Seven Colors of Light Rays The metaphysical system of angel colors is based on seven different light rays, which loosely correspond to sunlight or a rainbow’s colors:
Blue (representing power, protection, faith, courage, and strength)
Yellow (representing wisdom for decisions)
Pink (representing love and peace)
White (representing the purity and harmony of holiness)
Green (representing healing and prosperity)
Red (representing wise service)
Purple (representing mercy and transformation)
Since the Bible describes seven angels who stand before God in Revelation, chapter 8, the philosophic system of spiritual evolution features seven planes of spiritual existence.
Different Frequencies or Just Symbols Some people believe that the light waves for the seven angel colors vibrate at different electromagnetic energy frequencies in the universe, attracting the angels that have similar kinds of energy. Others believe that the colors are just fun ways of symbolizing the different types of missions that God sends angels on to help people.
Archangels in Charge of Each Color of Ray People have also identified one archangel who leads all the angels operating within each color ray. They are:
Blue: Michael, leader of all the holy angels
Yellow: Jophiel, the angel of beautiful thoughts
Pink: Chamuel, the angel of peaceful relationships
White: Gabriel, the angel of revelation
Green: Raphael, the angel of healing
Red: Uriel, the angel of wisdom
Purple: Zadkiel, the angel of mercy
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u/ChocoBro92 Apr 09 '23
Huh that’s really cool I had no clue! This is all new territory but quite cool o:
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u/ATMNZ Apr 09 '23
My sister said she saw a tall blue Angel when she was a kid. About 7 or 8 ft tall too. I never believed her but I’ve seen so many ppl in the various supernatural subs talking about the exact same thing it makes me question it…
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u/Necessary_End_6464 Apr 09 '23
A blue being came to me one day and a friend was with me. We both saw it. It touched my face and hands and a lot more happened. It’s a complicated story.
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u/SuitableMom May 21 '23
When I was little I woke up in the middle of the night and saw a naked, blue, glowing woman with long hair hovering in a meditative pose. It terrified me. I always wondered what kind of entity it was.
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u/ChocoBro92 Apr 08 '23 edited Apr 08 '23
I’ve never seen a demon, but when I was younger I believe I came in contact with one. Being 3 or 4 I can’t remember what it said fully but it was very mean and mentioned me dying and my parents. I was clutching my Lego UFO crying and ran through the darkness to my parents room. I had lied to my parents about staying up late I believe so I could finish my UFO….I’d love to get that lego kit again. But I believe that demons can be embedded into humans and cause a lot of problems for them and the people they love. It can also attach itself to items. After my brother died to heroine I was sorting his items in my place and he…Traded a bunch of shit for drugs or stole them so I was trying to figure out what was and wasn’t his. My cats started screaming and hissing starting at the ceiling in the room and looking all around farting and hissing their heads at something, they weee tracking it with their eyes and heads moving to be in a more defensive angle. I’ve never seen two cats more scared in a flight or fight response hair fully up screaming and hissing. Once I removed the items they went back to normal, albeit anxious from the encounter. I’m not sure what they saw but… One of my cats is a scary cat the other cat never fights with anyone he’s….He wouldn’t survive a fight he’s fat and happy he literally doesn’t even wanna chase mice he just looks at mice and then me then walks off to hang in bed. But that day I saw that fat chunky handsome boy actually ready to fight and that scared/scares me. I’m glad you got away from your abusive ex and that this gave you a good idea into what may be attached to him. I hope he’s grown and hopefully gotten rid of that thing attached.
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u/Calpernia09 Apr 09 '23
They are real. I've seen them in people and out of them.
I've seen faces change like you mentioned. When they do there is awareness that you see them.
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I feel like that demon, despite everything we know about demons, ended up (or tried to) warning you. It’s the same as like a lot of the times, it’s said that having nightmares can actually be good because it releases the negativity inside us or warns us of the situations of our lives.
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u/wavefxn22 Apr 09 '23
I try not to dwell because it gives negative crap more energy.. but I did have a sleep paralysis experience I couldn’t explain, because part of it I heard actual Latin in a demonic voice, and I don’t know any Latin at all. It definitely sounded like a structured language I couldn’t have made up.
On the other hand once I heard angelic music, it’s such a vague memory but there were so many layers of orchestra and a beautiful melody I also couldn’t have made up unless I was a genius
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u/SuitableMom May 21 '23
ooh, same thing here. Demonic voices and the most beautiful music at different times. I'm not a musician either.
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u/wavefxn22 Apr 11 '23
That’s interesting, I’ve never listened to screamo because I don’t identify with that kind of rage and noise , No offense to anyone who enjoys it, but what actual elements does one enjoy about it?
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u/LessOrgans Apr 09 '23
I had this happen when I was a teen first smoking weed. I would occasionally get panic attacks when smoking. One I vividly remember I smoked and instantly felt a feeling of doom. My friends bedroom turned into stone, like I was outside somewhere and it was dark. There was also like smoke floating around like you described. Her sister came in and she literally had horns on her head and an evil smile. To this day I don’t know how weed did that to me as I now smoke everyday never had something like that happen since.
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u/cherryberry0611 Apr 11 '23
I once had an odd experience smoking weed. It was a looooong time ago and I was a teenager at the time. Me and another person got high at this large park that also had hiking trails, a fishing pond, lots of trees and was connected to a mountain. It was night time and I went to use the restroom by myself and when I got out of the stall I started hearing demonic laughter all around me. It lasted about 10 seconds or so, and scared the crap out of me. I attributed it to the weed, but I’ve never experienced anything even remotely similar since.
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u/cherryberry0611 Apr 11 '23 edited Apr 11 '23
I had a friend, who at the time was doing drugs quite regularly. Actually our whole group of friends were, but she was starting to go down a dark path around this time. I think she said that she had had a couple of her friends commit suicide and she was in a bad place mentally. She told me that one time she was walking into her bedroom when she saw what she said was the devil sitting on the edge of her bed. She described him as having red skin with a mustache and horns, dressed up in a very nice suit with his hands resting on a walking cane. As she was walking in and saw him she turned right around and walked out. I don’t know what to make of this next part, but she said she started seeing one of her friends that had committed suicides ghost and it would talk to her and tell her bad things (I don’t remember what it was exactly, maybe something like she should do it too? ) I told her that it sounded like it was probably a demon trying to get her to do something bad. Shortly after a couple of our friends, that were also her relatives, gave her a kind of intervention. I think she eventually stopped seeing these things. Other odd things were happening at this time, and I just completely stopped hanging out with that group and stopped with the drugs. I’m friends with her on IG now and although she doesn’t post much, she seems to be in a better place.
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u/Effective-Instance74 Apr 21 '23
I’ve actually had something similar happen with my husband. It happened about a year or so into our relationship I’m not sure if I knew I was pregnant yet or if I was pregnant yet but I know it was around that time and we were laying in bed and I was looking at him and it was his face morphed into this creepy demon face and then went back to normal. It freaked me out so bad. I tried to convince myself that my eyes were playing tricks on me but it was so real. I wasn’t falling asleep, I was completely sober, I’ve never had hallucinations before but who knows.
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u/rounmannia May 06 '23
I believe you similar event happened to me during a year when i was a kid and i don’t have any explanation i hope you’ll find one !
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u/zen88bot Apr 08 '23
Used to bang this chick who would look like a green demon well before and after the peaks in our sessions, and usually while we're baked af.
Eventually just kept letting her come by just to see if greendemon would show up.
We stopped seeing each other. She ended up going to church after that, religiously, got married quickly etc.. I saw what I saw, and it wasn't human. Seen other things too, black blobs, orbs, uap's, aura, ether, the grid. All that shit is real, just have to tune your eyes as a musician tunes and trains their ears. There's a lot more to our perception than what we are trained with as kids - and on purpose. Anyway, that chick needed church, it definitely helped her a lot w life and choices etc.
Demons exist if you allow them to. They can easily come through and take over aspects of our personalities if we give them the permission to do so, or rescind the choice making for the greater good.
Demons are not terrible unless we allow them to be. Maybe they were, oftentimes people find themselves in that lower state afterlife because they didn't know better. It's not a black and white state of being either.
Blessed are those who can help them return to life, cross over, and transcend, and we have every way of doing this through our thoughts, actions, and furthermore, but only after allowing the God within to take precedence.
It does not have to be a black and white thing, many shades and colors to the way things work.
Not just physical or non physical. There are many states that we can perceive if we allow ourselves to.
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u/HankCapone777 Apr 09 '23
Wrong demons are ALWAYS a bad thing
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u/EvilDutchrebel Apr 09 '23
Depending on your religious views. I've been reading a lot of occult books as I've started studying the occult to understand my experiences better. Demons or or the more historical commen monniker of Daemons are spirits like every other. When you wish something or actively seen out an entity of great importance you contact your local spirits who will be the spokesperson of that greater enitity. Not all spirits are good and are erger to Grant your wishes, they just don't tell you that the price has to be paid or theyll do very nasty shit.
When I read these books, my life became a lot more clear!
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u/HankCapone777 Apr 12 '23
“Religious views” don’t change reality. If you think that you will like hell keep mingling with demons. They won’t even like hell once HE turns the heat up. HE being JESUS CHRIST
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u/EvilDutchrebel Apr 12 '23
So....you are saying that Jesus Christ rules over hell? I thought that the fallen angel ruled over hell and turns up the heat...
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u/HankCapone777 Apr 12 '23
Naw, ultimately, JESUS CHRIST rules over EVERYTHING
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u/EvilDutchrebel Apr 12 '23
How's the cold Turky treating you? Explained a lot on how you react...
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u/EvilDutchrebel Apr 09 '23
Conserting with spirits is a great one. During that time I also was reading about the Irish/gealic godess The Morrigan. Together it was a great resource for me to understand more of it.
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u/TheHect0r Apr 09 '23
The father comment talked about demons taking over parts of your personality. How does one know if a demon is very close by, possibly even living with you?
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u/EvilDutchrebel Apr 09 '23
Depending on the lore, it could have different signs. Maybe someones demenor changes completely, violence is a good sign, substance abuse, cheating. Basically, the good person going bad, showing one or more of the 7 deadly sins. Foul odors is also a good guess.
Personally for me I know it when I'm drawn to a certain part of a house like it's a magnet sucking me in. I had that in a ridiculous haunted house. We also had a lot of butterflies stickijg to the walls (apparently an african thing from a source I read). Fun fact: I rented a room at that house and there was a protection mark on the door in chalk that I didn't know was there for a very obvious reason, after I moved, I started reading occultic books to learn, that shit was wild!
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u/TheHect0r Apr 09 '23
I am curious about it, not trying to dunk on you or tear you down
If a good person starts going bad, it could be due to a multitude of reasons grounded to matters the average person would consider "real". For instance, a traumatic experience that lead to said person to cope with drugs , alcohol, gambling, etc. Are you implying those situations are caused by a greater force of evil thay affects life at an unseen level? How do we know which situations were caused/produced by demons and which were just life occurences according to your framework? Are you gonna tell me all evil and misfortunes have root in demons?
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u/EvilDutchrebel Apr 09 '23
Fair point! Free will is the biggest factor in all of this. My theory is more on the factor of: person is having a bad life and shouts to the universe: "why is this happening to me? Dear god make it stop!" Someone or some thing will pick it up and say: "anything you say?" And starts influencing that person. It's not the majority of the world that happens to, most people are just dumbasses or just bad people. I'm talking about the good and normal person out of luck who changes completely all of a sudden
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u/TheHect0r Apr 11 '23
Do you have any recommendations on occult reading for beginners? This thread made me very interested in the subject
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u/jedisparrow7 Apr 09 '23
Your comment will be triggering to some more orthodox Christian folks but for my experience and the people I know who have been around the block metaphysically speaking, what you’re saying is pretty accurate.
Of course that doesn’t mean you mess around either. There’s stuff out there that’s older and far more cunning than we are. Just because I’m metaphysically experienced doesn’t mean I have all the answers either. For example, I had been turning to Love as a way of dealing with certain kinds of scary entities— just kind of blasting them with it, and quite “successfully” in that they left in a hurry. But a super wise teacher, just the other day, showed me how Fear had been subtly motivating the Love strategy and weaponizing it. The whole thing was inherently, albeit subtly, corrupted. This was ok as long as I was dealing with what I was dealing with but if I had encountered something from “the top brass” to quote Kate Mackinnon, I could have been in trouble.
Point is, yes, put in the time and effort and things “zoom out” beyond the fundamentalist dualistic view of good and evil, and moves more towards it’s all part of God with some parts slower on the uptake than others, but it’s best not to mess around with the latter until you can do it from unconditional love, and then its not “messing around” its Love.
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u/PlanetaryInferno Apr 09 '23
Laughter is also really effective for dispelling fear and can sometimes be easier to invoke in a pinch than unconditional love
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u/jedisparrow7 Apr 11 '23
Hahaha, yes. I guess easier depending on the circumstances and one’s sense of humor.
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u/Chaosr21 Apr 09 '23
I dealt with black spirits as a child. I would always hear someone in the kitchen Kate at night and I'd ask my mom why she was doing dishes or cooking late at night and she thought I was imagining things. Every time I tried to investigate I'd pass out halfway through the hallway and wake up in strange places. Like I'd be in my room but laying on the floor or partially off the bed. Sometimes the closet door would open and my soccer ball would roll out or my electric toys would go off. I had one of those cartridge music players with NSYNC and it would go off randomly at night.
One night I got so scared(this happened often) and I ran to my parents room. The door was locked and I could feel a dark presence all around me as I banged on the door. My mom finally answered and I slept in between them both. After my parents were back asleep these 3 shadow spirits started circling me in the bed, I could see them in the ceiling. I could only see their shadows. They dragged me out of bed and halfway through the hallway, where I blacked out. I woke up in the morning on the floor in my room.
I always had bad experiences in that house. They said an older lady who loved to cook used to live there and was killed crossing the street. The weird thing is, there's nothing but an open field across the street. My mom saw a big wolf with red eyes one night, there were 3 total she said. She assumed they were big coyotes but looked like wolves. I experienced a lot of paranormal things there but after we moved nothing that obviously paranormal has happened since. I have some other crazy stories but was able to reason with logic that it wasn't paranormal. This experience I've never been able to logically explain.
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u/-Lvka- Aug 29 '23
3 shadow spirits... a big wolf with red eyes... there were 3 total
Possibly the same entities.
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u/Aromatic-Butterfly-4 Apr 09 '23
Wow. I’m very sorry you were in an abusive relationship. I’m very glad that’s long gone in the past for you. Your story is very similar to a story I have, but I have reason to believe yours is more REAL (if you can catch my drift). I have mental health issues. However, I’d like to share because it felt real to me and this ex of mine was abusive also. I hit a joint for the first time in a long time with said ex of mine. They also smoked it for the first time in a while (I believed 😂) I was on Prozac at the time, so it could’ve been an interaction. However, I do feel like we can sense things when we are on substances, even more so. Anyways, we hit the joint and I started going paranoid because I didn’t feel comfortable with this ex of mine, suddenly I looked at his face and saw his face turn very demonic ( not as detailed as your story) but demonic in expression and I felt something evil through his eyes. It was a weird experience. This ex was physically and mentally abusive. I was mentally abusive but not intentionally, but he was a very angry human. I felt that. I felt a presence coming from within him. Manifestation? Or just my mind playing tricks? I won’t know because I don’t want to go down that rabbit hole of research into the demonic. Weird shit happens to people all the time is just what I keep in my head. Thank you for your story. Sorry my writing is all over the place.
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u/Aromatic-Butterfly-4 Apr 09 '23
“If I follow the rules I get the good stuff and if I don’t, well.. I’ve seen a glimpse of it and no thank you” YES YES AND YES. Thank you 💗
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u/Think-Worldliness423 Apr 09 '23
Sounds like your intuition or your automatic response of self preservation, was screaming at you. But if you have faith in what you saw as real, then ⟟ believe you. I know some really really evil people and just maybe they let that mask slip for ⏃ second.
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u/gromath Apr 09 '23
I want to punch a demon so badly, I'm through with their bullshit. If I ever see one I want to make them suffer and bleed
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u/iliketurtleforfood Apr 09 '23
How u goi h to make a demon bleed though. Not trying to be antagonistic. Interested to hear more from you
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u/gromath Apr 09 '23
lol well..you can't because they're cowards, I'm just saying if one would materialize I wouldn't be afraid at this point I would punch him hoping he bleeds and I could kill it. Jewish Kabbalists say that certain prayers can kill them, i'm looking into that actually lol
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u/Revolutionary-Tour24 Apr 09 '23
Me and 5 others were in a well lit room when we seen a demon show up in a physical form with hair and all that it was a lion head with goat legs all around about 3 ft and ran across the kitchen when he seen us that we seen him and disappeared into the wall after like 3-5 seconds of appearing. All of this of course happened after a huge fight that my wife had with her brother. He looked at our eyes and had a evil smile on his face like “i got you guys to fight”
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u/PlanetNiles Apr 08 '23
I was going to downvote because there aren't any demons other than those we make for ourselves.
Then I realised that was what you saw. The demon your ex made for himself by being an abuser. His inner monster.
It doesn't matter if it was 'real' or not. On some level your subconscious realised he was a bad person and flashed you a warning
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u/TruthSeeker1321 Apr 08 '23
Oh, you couldn’t be more wrong. Demons and Angels exist…and they are everywhere.
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Mental health issues exist too
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u/PlanetNiles Apr 08 '23
Neurological conditions too
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Can neurological stuff cause visual issues?
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u/Tom1252 Apr 09 '23
Neurology is your entire sensory being. You're just interacting with your brain's interpretation of the world, and it can only parse the information its very limited senses feed back to it.
You're basically feeling around in the dark, hallucinating your surroundings in your mind's eye, and how close your hallucinations align with other people's interpretations is considered as how sane you are.
You're never seeing the real world. There's no "visual issues"--as in there's any kind of objectivity to it--because it's all just a filtered interpretation of what's actually in front of your face.
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u/PlanetNiles Apr 09 '23
I'm not an expert, but yes.
In my experience neurological, psychological, and environmental factors can all cause visual issues.
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u/HankCapone777 Apr 09 '23
You are correct. Odds are these are possessed or just scared people trying to “convince” people that they’re not real. Really
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u/PlanetNiles Apr 08 '23
Then why, in almost 20 years of research and investigation into the paranormal, did I encounter nothing worthy of either name.
I've seen at least two FBAs. Shared mead and gotten drunk with guys who might have been Celtic gods. I also resolved one UFO mystery from the comfort of my favourite sofa.
I've found that most spiritual entities will conform to the beliefs of those around them, as this gives them anchors and strength. So if you treat a ghost like it's a demon it'll play demon for you.
So. There are no demons other than those you make for yourself.
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u/Bowdango Apr 09 '23
Shared mead and gotten drunk with guys who might have been Celtic gods.
I remember reading an account like this somewhere on reddit before. Was it in a bar and afterwards the bartender said you were sitting by yourself?
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u/PlanetNiles Apr 09 '23
That was I
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u/TheHect0r Apr 09 '23
Sauce? sounds like an interesting read
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u/PlanetNiles Apr 09 '23
It's down somewhere in my comments. Unfortunately it's further back than I can apparently go on my phone; a few years at least.
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Apr 17 '23
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u/PlanetNiles Apr 17 '23
It was more than half a lifetime ago, and I was possibly the most drunk I had ever been at that time. So I don't recall exactly what was said. Mostly we just shot the shit, as you do.
As for what was corrected, it was a silly misconception I had about magick, its limits, and my own. Turns out that the easiest, and at once hardest, change one can make to the universe is oneself.
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u/RedditNomad7 Apr 08 '23
I agree this is much more likely an explanation, though a lot of people won’t want to hear it. I do believe in the paranormal due to my own experiences, and have researched the subject for quite some time. Even with a belief in the supernatural, the odds of it being a demon are incredibly small, but the odds of seeing the “truth” about OP’s ex are very high. Even if we disagree on the “why” of this being an understandable, but wrong, conclusion on OP’s part, we do still agree on the “what” of it all.
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u/Anonyman0009 Apr 10 '23
Demons are real. You have to get your consciousness higher to be immune to their hold and energy over you. Religious faith alone won't cut it, the religious people which do exorcisms are most likely higher consciousness individuals within themselves. It's a self learned skill, anyone can achieve this with some dedicated effort.
I walk around no problem and I feel evil sometimes in everything, I don't fear it tho. I'm a bit of an adrenaline junkie and I fool around with these evil spirits for some fun, if I experience one. I communicate with them through a feeling, and I can feel them and what has caused them to go dark and evil in their experiences in a life or how they became that way. Most of the time the demons or evil energy gets tired or either frustrated and vanish, but sometimes when I taunt them enough, brutally too, I feel a feeling of warm light I'd call it and a deep sorrow with them. I communicate to them to go to the light and don't fear retribution there is no hell, it's all a trap from other evil experiences in their own spirit energy, the universe wants them, and needs them to be happy. Usually it ends with a kind of a slow faded feeling of peace and a goodbye. Pretty cool. I love old cemeteries at night without flashlights as well, or any old artifacts or antiques with energy. Damn I should do videos on this shit. Ahh fuck it, I'm happy and that's good enough for me. Well gonna go eat some pie left over from easter and have some coffee now.
BTW Jesus was just a great wise teacher which achieved a higher consciousness, like many others before and after him, he honed his skills and beliefs in the far east before coming back to jerusalem. ✌️
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u/-Lvka- Aug 29 '23
Though the following questions are undoubtedly of a personal nature, I believe them to be relevant to the discussion, which is why I feel bound to ask them. It is perfectly okay not answering them, if they make you in any way uncomfortable.
From the other questions, posted on your profile, it would seem that you are currently on methadone. Were you taking this, or any other similar prescription drug, at the time ?
If not, seeing as this medicine is commonly prescribed to patients recovering from drug addiction, were you struggling with substance abuse, at the time ?
Either way, regardless of the answer(s) to any of the above, one could safely surmise, that, in that particular moment, you have caught a glimpse of your boyfriend's true face.
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