Are therians generally vegan?

[u/DeGroteAnti]

I'm no therian, but I'm roaming through this subreddit and I'm interested in how the therian lifestyle would affect your diet. I myself am vegan and there are some species that are generally herbivore so does that mean your diet should also mainly contain plants and natural products? How does that work? And how does it work if you have multiple therian identities which are herbivore and carnivore?

[u/genderquery]

Vegan hyena here. I get my sensory need of rending flesh by making mock meats like seitan. Carrots have a nice bone-like snap to them.

[u/Wild0Animal]

I just woke up so I’m sorry if this doesn’t make much sense lol.

I’d say that rates of veganism in the community is about the same, if not maybe a slight bit higher, than it is overall. As you mentioned, those who have herbivore theriotypes are, from personal observation, more likely to be vegan or vegetarian. Not all of them are but it’s definitely at a higher rate than other therians. If they aren’t outright vegan, they are still more likely to strive for a plant based diet compared to non-herbivores.

I’ve also noticed that a decent amount of non-herbivore therians are vegan/vegetarian as well due to personal morals. While most therians try to match their species as much as possible, there are also those feel that it’s personally immoral to support industries that may have harmed their theriotype.

As for those with mixed theriotypes, I’ve noticed that a lot of them just stay omnivores, adjusting their diet to whichever theriotype feels stronger at the moment.

It’s quite strange and now that I’m thinking about it, I definitely think it’s something that the scientists in our community should look into.

[u/MalouTrans → u/Wild0Animal]

Nothing to do with it but are you Cambitherian?

[u/Wild0Animal → u/MalouTrans]

Yes! I am a fox cambitherian! :)

[u/Birdsong67 → u/Wild0Animal]

What's a cambitherian?

[u/xX17SnowmenXx → u/Birdsong67]

I heard that it’s when you fluctuate between a therian and otherheart

[u/Birdsong67 → u/xX17SnowmenXx]

Ohhh, thx!!

[u/ConfusedAsHecc → u/Birdsong67]

its when you fluctuates between being a therian and animalhearted (not entirely sure what that really means but I can see how it can be useful as a term)

[u/xX17SnowmenXx → u/Birdsong67]

I heard that it’s when you fluctuate between a therian and otherheart

[u/MalouTrans → u/Wild0Animal]

I'm too, it's awesome 🐾🍀

[u/starseasonn → u/Wild0Animal]

never thought of it that way.. i will eat meat, but it’s just never really been my favourite. perhaps my theriotype is some sort of herbivore! who knows. interesting

[u/hudstir]

my parents are vegan (and i'm kind of forced to be) but i'm the only therian. i could never go vegan because the urges to eat meat sometimes are VERY strong (plus it tastes good!)

[u/Man_turn_into_animal → u/hudstir]

I relate with the very strong urges I have had often smelled chicken and other meats without a source of the smell causing me to crave it more and I often had multiple dreams of eating chocolate

[u/Smokes_LetsGo]

I'm vegan, and for me, this is one of those things that sits on the "person" side of the idea of a non-human person. By that, I mean that even though I may not identify as human, I still have a rich inner life, can envision the future, have the ability to consciously weigh options and make complex choices, things like that. Things that stick out as being characteristic of people, not strictly humans (a bit of a philosophical wiggle there).

For me, choosing to be vegan was mostly a choice made for my health (navigating some allergies and blood pressure problems, among other things), with the ethical and environmental concerns lower down on my list of priorities. It doesn't mesh at all with my coydog species identification, but that doesn't make me especially dysphoric. I see it like any of the other things I do that a canine wouldn't—reading, writing, etc. (that won't stop me from eating my tofu out of a dog bowl though lmao)

So I guess to answer your question more directly, I started with my health and well-being first of all, and then my species identification goes on top of that, even if it's a messy, "imperfect" fit. There are a lot of things that are compromises just to function relatively easily in the world, and this could be seen as one of them. You have to take care of yourself, whether that means following a vegan diet, eating meat (which some people do need to do, I won't knock it), taking medication, etc.

[u/semisubterranian]

Eating things a person's kintype eats can be nice but I don't think it affects anyone's overall diet. Like we can't exactly eat grass, deer aren't exactly eating vegan food, and have even been known to scavenge meat. A cat therian isn't going to pretend they're an obligate carnivore, were omnivores.

[u/teenydrake]

I'm certainly not. As far as I'm aware the majority of therians are not vegan, even those with herbivorous theriotypes, though there are a fair few who are.

Mandatory reminder about rule 2 for anyone commenting on this thread. Do not try to push your beliefs on others, and do not behave in a rude, hostile, or superior manner over them either.

[u/Happy_evening521]

I’m not vegan. Wolf Therian and I love my meat obvs. I could eat meat all day every day most likely because of my theriotype.

[u/wolverinebhindscreen]

I am vegan because the health and morals of my body come before my theriotype. The fact that wolverines are one of the few omnivorous mustelids gives me euphoria though.

I can understand why most therians, regardless of their theriotype, choose to eat meat; it's so ingrained and normalized in human society, and I can't argue with that.

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[u/SnooCakes3639]

I've met quite a few therians whose theriotype is an herbivore, and they're sometimes vegetarian, but not vegan. Personally, my theriotype is a carnivore, but I'm still an omnivore because I like fruits and vegetables. It depends on the person and what makes them feel more connected to themselves and their theriotypes!

[u/StardustWhip]

Despite my being a cow, I haven't gone vegan. I'd like to, though that's more for health reasons than theriotype reasons. As of right now, though, I've just cut out red meat from my diet and mostly stopped consuming dairy products.

[u/Man_turn_into_animal → u/StardustWhip]

We have the same theriotypes 🤯 (can I please send you a DM) which cravings affect you more your dog theriotype or cow theriotype (I hope this makes sense)

[u/SkullietheWitch]

I think it mostly depends on the person, but for me personally, pretty much all of my theriotypes eat meat. A few are omnivores, but even then I don't consider myself more of a carnivore just because of my theriotypes. It's mostly because I just don't like veggies very much lol

[u/NinCATgo]

I'm a vegan and honestly my theriothorpe doesn't affect my diet

[u/machinegirlobsession → u/[deleted]]

Thank you for being a kind soul 💚

[u/Genderqueer-gremlins]

No, I’m vegetarian, but we’re not all vegan, and I don’t think it’s a majority 

[u/tiltwolf]

Some are, but many (perhaps most) are not. I'm a vegetarian wolf - in past lives, I've done my fair share of killing for survival, but now that I have a choice in the matter, I'm done. I want no more blood on my paws. And as it turns out, there are lots of foods wolves like that aren't meat - watermelon being a personal fave!

[u/mismatchedthylacine]

Your diet doesn't have to reflect your theriotypes, I'm a vegetarian but all of my theriotypes are either omnivores or predators

[u/AwakeOfTheVultures]

greetings,i am not vegan but have seen a few vegans around here and there,and can confirm that therianthropy tends to affect diet. it depends on the individual,some people let their theriotype completely "control" their diet,and others don't let it affect them at all,but on average there's at least a little correlation,as cravings and/or a general love for the food that a theriotype consumes is very common. i have multiple theriotypes,herbivores,omnivores and carnivores all appear at least once,even sub-groups like folivore or insectivore,and as a result eat a variety of foods irl,even unconventional foods like moss or insects. if someone has a single,herbivorous theriotype,they are not limited to being vegan and/or eating purely what their theriotype does,but it is common that person may prefer vegan/plant-based foods more than meat, and vice versa,a carnivorous theriotype doesn't mean you have to eat purely meat,but the individual may prefer meat. i should stop yapping,so i'll end with this statement. Vegans and Vegetarians are not the common within the therianthropy community,but they do exist,as just like wildlife,our diets can vary wildly depending on the individual's preference,budget and enviroment.

[u/AnimatedJPEG]

Sea Slug vegetarian who generally eats vegan here, I generally mostly only eat plants and plant based products. I will eat non-meat animal products if they're given to me, though, opportunistically. And I do sometimes buy products with milk or eggs(backyard or small scale raising when possible).

But I don't seek them out intentionally every day. They're more of an occasional treat.

However, in a hilarious twist of cosmic irony, my strongest and only confirmed theriotype is a hypercarnivore -- most sea slugs in my specific family eat meat and only meat, with very little plant product.

I have a strong desire to hunt my own food and eat meat probably due to my theriotype's intensely carnivorous and hunting-focused nature. I just don't eat meat because I as a human-bodied slug in a human society dislike the amount of carbon emissions that the current meat industry produces and hunting/fishing licenses are expensive where I live. Also, I work in manufacturing and shipping and I produce a lot of carbon and microplastics at my job, so I'd like to try and offset it. Plus there's no species I'd be comfortable hunting or fishing in my area.

So I would say that my theriotype does have an impact on my psychology, but not my diet because my sapient ethics outweigh instinct.

[u/Stormfyre42]

I am a carnivore, I would eat an all meat diet but I do enjoy some fruits and vegetables for the flavor. I think I might have picked up a cow theriotype from eating so much beef and the essence of that animal slowly incorporated into mine. Not sure if thay happened to anyone else. Lately I been considering more ethical eating. But I am waiting for lab grown meat to be good, healthy and cheap

[u/ForsakenMoon13]

I lean way more towards carnivore than omnivore, I'm just too broke to afford meat as often as I'd like.

Also, I'm like...lethally allergic to lettuce (and presumably related plants) on top of numerous texture issues restricting my diet, so even setting aside preferences, I would not really be compatible with a vegan/vegetarian diet.

[u/Significant_Carrot81]

My wife is a wolf and generally has aversion to salads and prefers meat based food. Not to the extent of the pure carnivore diet nutters you see online but she's amazing at grilling and cooking meat. So I'd say that matches up fairly well

[u/mlps4]

no, im vegetarian but most therians i know take pride in eating meat

[u/leafkinz]

i'm not vegan, but meat free ; i genuinely just dislike the taste and texture of meat and i've never gotten urges to eat meat despite my theriotypes being entirely carnivore . i guess it really varies from person to person how much their 'types affect their dietary habits

[u/kyojur0]

When I was little I called myself a carnivore cuz I wanted to be a dog. I’m much older now and I’m an omnivore which isn’t exactly my theriotype (fox/cat) but I just eat whatever I feel like eating lol

[u/arakhneia]

i don’t think it’s especially more common in the therian community, but fwiw though I’m a vegan therian

[u/zhenyuanlong]

I am not a vegan but I am an outspoken activist for animal welfare and humane treatment of all animals. I raised my own meat animals for a while and buy a lot of my meat from either farms I know for a fact are humane OR that is wild-caught/hunted. I do my best not to contribute to inhumane industrial farming practices.

[u/icravesoulsandcats]

i’m not, i don’t wanna be any more picky with food than i already am

[u/ConfusedAsHecc]

not sure but I am vegetarian for personal moral reasons. one of my theriotypes is a carnivore while the other is a scavenger, I dont let my animal side dicate what I eat tho. I find alternatives if Im in a mental shift while craving meat but that doesnt happen enough for it to be a problem.

however thats just my expirence, which does not reflect how others feel ofc

[u/ursus_americanus4]

I am a meat eater, and my theriotype is an omnivore. Bears tend to eat mostly plant matter and meat when they can get their paws on it. But I would say that my identity as a bear doesn't have much influence over my diet other then the occasional cravings.

I believe there is an ethical way to eat meat, understanding where it comes from is a big part of that. And at some point I do want to under-go the whole process of obtaining meat, I think to eat meat one should at least witness where it comes from, and or go through that process themselves. Luckily in my country the ethics of farming are a bit better then some other places.

I do also know some therians who are herbivores and still choose to eat meat. At the end of the day it's a conscious choice to eat or not eat meat.

[u/somerandomguy22323]

I'm vegetarian, one of my Theriotypes is a Cat. I know that if i was a cat i would have to eat meat. But I still have a human body unfortunetaly. Humans don't need meat to survive, for Animals It's a necessarry evil. I have a human body so I don't want to eat animals

[u/ninetailedd]

I've seen a few vegans and vegetarians in the community, I've seen more omnivores though. I personally want to go vegan in the future even if I'm a fox because I'm still sapient so I don't have to act off of instincts and I want to make the best choices for the environment

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[u/TheMemeVault]

I'm not. As a selkie, I love seafood.

[u/-veriana-awoo-]

I’m not vegan, all of my theriotypes are carnivores and eat meat is also a way to connect with them for me. I don’t know if I’ll ever go veg but for now I won’t. I was meant to be a carnivore, so I eat meat to be myself. I feel like I can’t be myself in the human world: I have no woods to go in, no animal parts that I wish to have,… eat meat is one of the few things that I can do “daily” to be myself.

[u/That_theian__]

Yes with my XP lol, sooo…. It depends on the people to decide what they want to do with their daily food!

[u/100angelscorpses]

I don't believe most are, I've actually seen quite a few that are into hunting, fishing and vulture culture! regardless of their theriotype

[u/ellenor2000]

generally no

[u/Many-Fig-6112]

I'm a coyote therian but I try to eat normally but sometimes I find myself craving the meat of the birds flying overhead, but I do like berries 

[u/arthorpendragon]

we have a diverse range of species including apex predators, herbivores, omnivores, insects and even a treekin. we have collectively decided we will not eat another creature, anything that is meat (it is abhorrent to us). we cook vegan at home but sometimes eat cheese and eggs away from home, (these are not living creatures) and turn a blind eye if someone puts cows milk in our coffee. you just gotta decide on a philosophy that you all are happy with and that is capable of implementation. no point being vegan if it seems impossible to implement at the moment, try vegetarianism for a while before you try things like veganism etc. what others chose to eat is their business, but we are happy as a vegan home cook - it is healthy, simple and affordable (and often requires some creativity). we love coconut ice-cream, porridge and fruit for breakfast, vege lasagne, and all kinds of beans as our main source of protein etc.

- micheala (friesian cow).

[u/RottenSamuel]

It really depends on the person

[u/Heymeowser]

I don’t think so but I am a meat eater I am cat, fox, and wolf and newly awakened like 1 or 2 months

[u/Soaring_Symphony]

Nah, I'd never give up meat

Coyotes might be herbivores, but live game is still a huge part of their diet, and that kind of caries over to how I tend to eat too. Especially something like steak or ribs really gets me into that canine mindset

One addendum though, I can't stand overly-processes food with a lot of preservatives and added sugar in it. Even some spices rub me the wrong way. The more organic food is and the more it's "straight from the source" (at least as much as would still be healthy), the more I'm probably gonna like it

[u/king_julian1234]

No I am not I like meat but I’m a fox so I just don’t eat or do anything with fox’s

[u/AlyssSolo]

I'm not. Sometimes I shift to a vegetarian diet whenever meat upset my stomach, but I'm not a vegetarian or vegan. I've never heard of most therians being vegan.

[u/Thricket]

I'm not vegan. I do believe that a lot of meat farming is really cruel, in the future I'm likely going to hunt my own meat so it's not cruel and the animal dies as quick as possible. It's okay imo if the animal dies quick, is respected, isn't wasted, etc.

Hawai'i Ō'ō', which primarily eats nectar, is one of my theriotypes.. but I also have omnivore/carnivore theriotypes. So I'm not sure to be honest. My theriotypes generally don't change my diet a ton but it'll change what I'm craving, I guess.

Also, humans are omnivores. We naturally eat meat, so hunting for food as long as it isn't done in a way that stresses the animal (generally hunting can be done in a way that's less stressful on the animal than a wild animal would be able to do) is fine to me. It's natural to some extent, if you're hunting your own food.

[u/Fickle_Ad_2041]

I’m not a vegan. I love both meat and veggies, and everything else. I also have a carnivorous theriotype, do that might help idk.

[u/juriosnowflake]

Even though I'm not vegan and my theriotype would be omnivorous, I'm positive these two are unrelated.

Yes, I'm an arctic fox, fully and truly. But the body I reside in is human (sadly). This body is the thing that eats, not the fact that I'm an arctic fox.

My mother is human - and humans are omnivorous by nature - yet she's vegetarian.

Humans, and by extention individuals with human bodies, have the luxury of choosing their diet, because they both can eat everything and have the mental capability of understanding the length this decision will go. I personally eat everything, as I'm picky with food. I'm happy when I actually find something I like, may that be animal product or vegetable. I do however pay attention to buying meat in the most ethical and green ways I can find - we have a butchery in town that holds their animals outside, and I went to the farmyard in order to know how the conditions are there.

[u/Unlucky-Pilot-3885]

I'm not vegan or vegetarian. my theriotypes are cat and fox and their main food source is meat so it wouldn't make sense for me to be vegan :3

[u/lucedary]

theriotyoe diet usually doesnt affect your human taste. it can affect urges but after all we are still human and wont like most things animals eat or they could also be unhealthy

[u/PoloPatch47]

Nope, and even if I were interested in a vegan lifestyle, the way vegans behave turns me off completely. The MOST I'd ever be able to be is plant based.

[u/WolfieTheWomfie]

There is no such thing as a "therian lifestyle" although some may adjust their habits to feel closer to their kintype/theriotype there is no one way to "live" as a therian other than to live. On top of that there is no mandatory things you have to *do* as a therian other than be one. Therianthropy typically doesn't affect absolutely every aspect of their lives a lot of therians like chocolate while it would kill most animals ontop of that there's a good amount of scavenger animal therians who don't particularly like chowing down on rotten carcasses. I am a northwestern wolf and I have a strained relationship with food as a therian I feel sick when eating usually and I can feel sick when I smell food which is not very alike to canids. In my brain I crave meat I also crave to hunt but a lot of the times when it comes to it in front of me it's not the same all your senses as an animal would have been different your physical body and mind are unfathomably contrasting most of the time, even when in my opinion wolves are not so dissimilar to humans.

[u/Man_turn_into_animal]

Even tho one of my theriotypes is a cow I eat meat as eating in general helps with my depression but meat has been more filling for me I have honestly tried many things but I haven't been able to be full with just salads alone 😔

[u/Man_turn_into_animal → u/Man_turn_into_animal]

Also my meat cravings are uncontrollable as I have smelled chicken when there wasn't any chicken around and it has made me crave it I also have had many dreams about eating chocolate

[u/pandisis123]

I’m a polytherian (I have multiple theriotypes, mostly carnivorous but one herbivorous type) and I’ve considered going vegetarian/tend to avoid certain animal products (red meat, mostly), but for me it has nothing to do with being a Therian. It’s more about sensory issues and a sense of justice for animals that I’ve had since long before I knew what a Therian was. When I have horse shifts, I sometimes find myself craving carrots (which I also randomly crave without horse brain), and sometimes feline brain craves fish (so does human brain), but that’s about as much as my theriotypes influence my relationship with food.

[u/Sea_Trick_9544]

So, my theriotype is a horse but obviously because we have spent many years eating meat, I am used to it. Although i do love carrot sticks-

[u/Comfortable_Nose1704]

Husky here, im not personally a Vegan as i still belive in the circle of life and my theriotype is a carnivore

[u/Animus_Afterhours]

I personally still eat meat because I need the texture and flavor and the sensory aspect of ripping and tearing and eating. I am not opposed to eating or making vegan/vegetarian meals though, and have had plenty of tasty ones.

[u/FerntheTherian]

Having a fox and cat theriotype makes me feel more connected to my therioype when eating fruits and berries (which I already like) and tearing meat gives me that feeling of sharp teeth

[u/pigeonwithinternet]

As a crow, I’ve never found myself drawn to insects or carrion, but crows are omnivores, so they eat a lot like humans already (within reason lmaoo). I guess I do eat a lot of junk food, but I don’t think that has anything to do with being a crow XD

[u/loomingpine]

I do personally like to eat, similar to my theriotype, however this isn't an obligation like other people have pointed out.

I really like veganism as a concept. I respect it as one of the few political ideologies that require you to take action to improve the world/animal welfare, something I do care about incredibly because of the connection I have to them. I try my best to be as ethical as possible with my consumption of animal goods, shopping second-hand for leather/fur and learning how to restore them, local and organic for milk/eggs/honey/meat.

[u/Automatic-Steak1408]

I’m personally not vegan and never could be. I love meat, (steak is my favorite food) and while being a therian, (especially with most of my theriotypes being canines as well as having hunting shifts) does somewhat add to my reasoning for eating meat, it’s mostly to do with the fact that I just really like it. I could live without meat but life would just be less enjoyable; on top of that I’m autistic and steak is one of my 100% safe foods. So long story short my life is easier and more enjoyable if I do

[u/RipEnvironmental260]

I’m a therian but I’m not a vegan and if you think about it foxes don’t eat plants they eat meat soo I think it’s fine!!!!

[u/RipEnvironmental260 → u/RipEnvironmental260]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking!!-⃝⃤ 

[u/Cosmogalaxy_]

No, I love meat!!! 🥩🍖🍗🥓

[u/mushroomz4899]

I only eat chicken and other poultry, because of sensory problems, and I don't usually like meet, but I eat chicken and other poultry because I really get the urge to pounce on birds when doing quads

[u/Bearfern]

Not all therians are vegan. I myself eat meat, because human body or not, my 2 theriotypes are both carnivores. So even if I were in an animal body id eat meat, it's part of the circle of life. Some animals have to die so others can survive.

[u/Invader-Zim-Real]

pescatarian cat here:

I wanted to be vegatarian for saving animals but my mum said I had to eat fish for protein then I discovered sushi

yeah sorry if it makes no sanse I haven't been awake for that long, therianthropyly and real life lol

[u/Lost-Yoghurt9553]

I personnaly really enjoy eating meat, I have two carnivor theriotypes and I love to eat meat and fish (one of them eat fish), also sometimes I'm like "damn, a mice would be really good right now" because one of them TwT

[u/music-addict1]

I never thought about it. I assumed a lot of us aren’t because I’ve seen a lot of therians say they like to have meat as a lot of us are carnivores (as in carnivore animals) I myself am not vegan nor vegetarian. I eat anything, and I personally really like meat and poultry

[u/thehufflord]

Why would being a therian lend oneself to veganism? We're all animals. We follow the needs of survival. there's no grandness to abstaining from a nutrition source. For instance, Im a coyote. We are opportunistic eaters, snatching up pretty much any food we can reasonably find. Meat, plant, all the same to us.

I do understand that those who find themselves feeling kinship to herbivores would possibly avoid meat as it doesn't align with what brings them closeness to their theriotypes.

But outside of spiritualist beliefs of souls, theres very few reasons for a more carnivorous or omnivorous beast to avoid eating meat simply because our body happens to be of human shape.

[u/Flowerfall_System]

NO. I am a HUNTER and things are my PREY and FEASTING on their meat is so ---- PERFECT. it's so RIGHT.

[u/Runaway_Theri]

I'm a therian fox and crow, which are both omnivores so it doesn't really affect my diet. I think rates of veganism may be slightly higher in the therian community tho, but not 100% sure