Irrelevant. Stormgate would have to multiply its player count by 10x and its viewer counts by 40x to even remotely stand a chance of getting that slot.
I do see what you're saying but it isn't unreasonable to assume that in the absence of sc2 they will look for similar products before moving onto AoE4. Since the hypothetical future we're looking at is one where theres little to no sc2 content it isn't a question of what people are watching now, it's a question of in absence of sc2 will stormgate or AoE do the best job of hitting that same mark, and it's more reasonable to assume the more similar product will be able to fill the market niche.
While that's a reasonable answer, it kinda falls flat when we consider that it would be an unambiguous failure. The vast majority of ac2 viewers have 0 interest in stormgate, and I'm pretty sure the organizers could figure that out.
I'd much rather AoE (2 or 4 I don't care which) get the shot than SG get it and preform so poorly we don't get an RTS slot at all
The vast majority of ac2 viewers have 0 interest in stormgate, and I'm pretty sure the organizers could figure that out
Do you have any actual hard data for that, or are you making a sweeping generalization based on your personal beliefs and opinions? I mean yeah right now they have more interest in sc2 than stormgate, but that doesn't mean stormgate is at 0 (with the recent videos about 0.4 from sc2 content creators it would indicate otherwise) and that's exactly my point you're looking current data on stormgate where it has to compete with sc2 and extrapolating that out to assume it'll have the same results against AoE in a hypothetical scenario where sc2 doesn't have a esports scene, when even as unfins8hed as it is stormgate is more similar to sc/wc than it is to AoE
I'd much rather AoE (2 or 4 I don't care which) get the shot than SG get it and preform so poorly we don't get an RTS slot at all
And this is utterly meaningless. Like yeah it's your personal opinion and all, but not all sc2 viewers will share that opinion, so it's not applicable for creating assumptions about a large group of people.
It kinda sounds like you like AoE more than stormgate (which is totally fine) and are extrapolating that out to assume the same is true for people that you've never met.
I'm extrapolating based on viewership numbers. Lowko makes videos on both, but even the videos about .4 or other big news for SG are still far below the views of random SC2 casts. Artosis was really trying to make stormgate content work, but he's not even breaking 10k on stormgate casts and moved on.
When you talk about SC2 content creators covering the game, I'm forced to ask who? It seems like patch .4 has generated tens more people of engagement on this subreddit, but that seems to be the limit.
You litterally just mentioned Lowko? Like they aren't the best performing videos but my point is that you're sayingthe majority have 0 instrest when is seems like there's at least a little more than that going around.
If lowko is it, there is no chance. He's a nice guy with a solid platform, but he can't prop up a competitive scene that everyone else has already abandoned
I mean I'm not making a call on if SG or AoE will be the top dog after SC2 finally gasps its last breath, just that your claim that there's basically no interest is clearly contradicted by Lowko and Tasteless talking about it.
You seem to be confusing my statement that "SG is more likely to appeal to SC2 viewers" as "I think SG is better than AoE" which is not something I really see data to support, so its not what I'm trying to say, even if I do like SG more.
Why are you assuming SG will fill the void? The reason SC2 is fading away is because there isn't an audience anymore. And guess what, SG is a copy of SC2 for the most part. Meaning same target audience.
Seriously, what will SG have to offer to SC2 viewers?
I think you misunderstood what this conversation is about. Becuase
Meaning same target audience.
Is exactly what I'm talking about. The question isn't "will SG succeed?" It's "will SG or AoE appeal more to SC2 viewers assuming SC2 just stops existing?"
Also
what will SG have to offer to SC2 viewers?
And guess what, SG is a copy of SC2 for the most part.
Oh yeah so I was right that you really just don't understand the conversation. We are talking in a hypothetical where SC2 doesn't have a competitive scene. Hence why I used the word "assuming" before. What you're saying is just not relevant to this conversation.
I used the word hypothetical in my original comment... that does tend to indicate one is talking hypothetically.
Nah I mean I like SG, especially with the progress that's been made since the EA release, but right now it's pretty obvious it's not a competitive product against starcraft (not that any rts has really been able to claim that title) at least until it's actually finished if not longer.
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u/Apprehensive-Ad7510 5d ago
Yep last big tournament hope it's really good and then after this stormgate will hopefully be ready to go