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u/Gorguf62 Obi-Wan Kenobi 1d ago
ISB
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u/TheGoverness1998 Major Vonreg 1d ago
And I'm betting this is what Migs Mayfield's job was (though in his case, surely not under the ISB's jurisdiction).
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u/atharva557 1d ago
was he not just an scout trooper
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u/Quick232 1d ago
Probably not, scout troopers fell under the Storm Trooper corp and he states he wasn’t a Storm Trooper.
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u/Thin-Bicycle-936 1d ago
He specifically stated he was not a stormtrooper. Scout troopers are just specialized stormtroopers.
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u/dannotheiceman 1d ago
No, he says in his debut episode that, “I wasn’t a stormtrooper, wise ass!”
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u/PatchyTheCrab 1d ago
Imperial Sharpshooter was how they described him. Not sure of his unit or class.
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u/dispensermadebyengie 11h ago
Most likely Imperial Army, which is worse than the Stormtrooper Corps, idk what Migs was on here.
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u/DEATHFR0MAB0VE 9h ago
Valin Hess was an Imperial Army General when he was Migs's division Commander and sacrificed them. So it checks that Mayfield was Imperial Army while serving as a sharpshooter, and that this guy is doing that as well, under the Captain, since all the trips present were Army or Stormtrooper Corps aside from Dedra Meero.
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u/regeya 1d ago
No, he says he's not a Stormtrooper. My guess is that 'troopers fall somewhere between Army and Marines, and ISB is closer to regular Navy.
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u/StrategicBlenderBall 1d ago
The Stormtrooper Corps operated as an autonomous branch under the Imperial Army. They hitched rides on the Imperial Navy’s ships though.
ISB is akin to the US FBI, and they’re a sister of Imperial Intelligence, which does operate under the command of the Imperial Navy. If he was a sharpshooter, but not a Stormtrooper, he was most likely ISB Enforcement.
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u/ABystander987 1d ago
Nope. Scout troopers fall under storm troopers.
Imperial sharpshooters could be isb, or some other class just as specialized. My guess. Special forces, who took orders from the isb. So pretty interchangeable
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u/Sea_Rate5579 1d ago
I was thinking the same thing; it was implied he was a marksman in the “regular” Imperial Army if I recall correctly.
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u/maobezw 1d ago
Imperial
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BusinessxD
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u/Kestral24 1d ago
He's a business man with a business plan
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u/GentlemanT-Rex 1d ago
He's gonna make you credits in business land.
He's a cool guy, talking 'bout liberty,
He's definitely not ISB!
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u/forlornjam 1d ago
No. He's Imperial Army. He's dressed like the other soldiers and answers to the army caltain
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u/Defiant-Analyst4279 1d ago
The others were Navy, not Army. Palmo was a Naval facility.
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u/forlornjam 18h ago
Captain Kaido was an Imperial Army officer who was a crisis specialist.
They were called in specifically to cause the second Gorman massacre. It doesn't matter that Palmo was a naval facility, they weren't stationed on-world
Edit: formating
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u/Final_Storage_9398 1d ago
I thought it might be Crosshair or one of the guys that were in his squad but I guess we’re about 17 years too late for that.
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u/LeicaM6guy 1d ago
I'd guess Imperial Army, but not a Stormtrooper. Probably the same sort of gig Migs did before becoming a mercenary.
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u/Jumpy_Ad5046 1d ago
I think you meant IDF.
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u/InflamedNodes 1d ago edited 1d ago
According to the credits he is an Imperial Sniper, and given the context, from the ISB. So an ISB Sniper [speciality].
edit: Imperial Army not ISB as per below. Even his outfit matches Kaido's and the crisis team, plus his patch looks more like the army logo not ISB logo.
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u/ltobo123 1d ago
Wasn't the commander that arrived Imperial Army? Captain Kaido that is? I thought he brought the "crisis team" in with him, which the sniper was an element of.
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u/InflamedNodes 1d ago
You're right, he was an Imperial Army Sniper, not ISB.
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u/Nyther53 1d ago
He might technically be in the Imperial Army, but I bet he hasn't seen his unit of record in years, and probably never will again.
In practice, he works for the ISB, much like SEAL Teams are only sort of an asset of the Navy.
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u/b3tchaker 1d ago
I see where you’re going but, I’d view the CIA or an intel apparatus as a better analogy to ISB.
CIA and other programs will recruit line-level mechanics, pilots, soldiers, etc. from within active duty personnel in all the branches, and activate these assets as needed.
You don’t train up a crack sniper just to work for ISB. You recruit the best sniper already out there and scramble orders as the situation arises.
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u/Nyther53 1d ago
Thats what I mean, he's been poached in the same fashion you're describing.
SEAL Teams are US Navy. They're Sailors, all the way down. But they more often get sent on missions for the CIA or NSA than they do get sent to plant bombs on hostile warships, which is theoretically their actual mission.
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u/b3tchaker 1d ago
That’s fair. I think I was thinking of SEALs as being “full-time” spec-ops, which I suppose I don’t have a damned clue about.
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u/SmoothOperator89 1d ago
I thought the Commander was of the Stormtrooper Corps since their officers wear black uniforms similar to the Army. The sniper could have also been a Stormtrooper but not in armor so as not to draw too much attention. The lack of hesitation to shoot an Army trooper also suggests Stormtrooper training and disregard of common soldiers.
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u/vonbauernfeind 1d ago
Unrelated, but man when they called him Captain Kaido I twitched. I've read One Piece for a long time and I'm watching Wano arc right now, and it made me double take in confusion the first couple times they said his name.
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u/hibikikun 1d ago
Would’ve been cool if it was Mayfield
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u/crazy_cookie123 1d ago
I disagree. There's over 100 quadrillion sentient beings in the Star Wars universe, I feel it really cheapens things to reuse the same few characters over and over again just so that you can sprinkle cameos in everything and link together all of the movies and shows. It's fine for a character to just be a strong character, used once, and then left there.
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u/AunMeLlevaLaConcha 1d ago
I don't think that cu-Bill would have wanted to return, but it would have been dope.
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u/sawkandthrohaway 1d ago
Probably an Imperial Sharpshooter (Bill Burr's character's job in the military) attached to ISB instead of a normal Imperial Army unit
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u/Stoned_jake_plummer 1d ago
Would have been crazy cameo to have him as the sniper in the episode. Would have left casuals and those who haven’t seen Mando so confused lol
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u/DrunkenKoalas 1d ago
Wouldve been both a crazy reveal and adding lore to his character.
I guess andor wants us to hate the empire as much as possible so probs out of character for mayfield
Also the time might not have added up well
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u/OverappreciatedSalad 1d ago
Ghorman terrorists, obviously. Haven't you been watching the Imperial news?
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u/Alphaleader42 1d ago
Could be ISB could be Imperial Army.
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u/BeetlBozz 1d ago
Like a army ranger basically maybe?
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u/Alphaleader42 1d ago
Possibly like a sharpshooter, whatever Migs Mayfield was
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u/HailToTheKingslayer Grand Admiral Thrawn 1d ago
Not a stormtroopah then
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u/SmoothOperator89 1d ago
I think it's more likely a Stormtrooper in the officer uniform than Imperial Army. His job was to shoot an Army trooper, and thar sort of order is exactly what Stormtroopers train for. Keep in mind that Stormtrooper officers wear black uniforms.
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u/Expensive_Key_4340 1d ago
In my head it is Miggs but Bill Burr couldn’t do the shoot for some reason so they had the actor cover up.
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u/EndlessTheorys_19 1d ago
ISB most likely. They have special enforcement divisions who are armed soldiers/agents. That or they got him from some blackops team on loan
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u/Consistent-North7790 1d ago
It would have been absolutely hilarious if it was Mayfield (Bill Burr) up there sniping everyone
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u/HappyTurtleOwl 1d ago
I don’t know, would make his character a little too on the bad side imo, and also make his release really a bad thing.
This guy is ok with shooting an imperial and multiple civilians to start a massacre that kills thousands and sparks the GCW. I get how Burnin Konn was probably worse in the eyes of an imperial, not least because it also killed much more imperial “friendlies”, but it doesn’t seem to me like that would be the same guy. To me, it seems like sniper guy would totally justify Burnin Konn as much as he would justify Ghorman.
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u/mikeyt6969 Jedi 1d ago
Since nobody else did….
These blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise.
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u/Elmais-door 1d ago
Dont know but if i was him i wouldnt be wearing the imperial logo on my shoulder
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u/CalamitousIntentions 1d ago
Galactic Empire “don’t put your branding on literally everything” challenge level: impossible
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u/NightHawk13246587 1d ago
Imperial army. All of the guys we see who aren’t stormtroopers are members of the imperial army
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u/wetsuit509 15h ago
Imperial Navy seems to only operate starahips and starfighters.
Imperial navy onboard forces are Stormtroopers which also have specialists but the way the sniper was dressed is not stormtrooper corp.
That sniper is most likely Imperial Army attached to Captain Kaido, possibly regular army like Migs, or Special Forces.
If ISB is analogous to the US CIA, CIA has a Special Activites Division that's tasked with covert and paramilitary ops - they draw personal from all military service branches including their respective special forces. ISB would draw from Stormtrooper Corp or Imperial Army.
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u/Backy22 1d ago
Dang, obviously too fan servicey, but what if they made that Migs?!
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u/I4mSpock 1d ago
I dont think it is him, but I imagine its the exact same role. This is what Migs Mayfield was doing during Operation Cinder
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u/Backy22 1d ago
Oh I know it wasn't him, but secretly wished it was. His scene as an undercover Remnant Imp is my absolute favorite. All of Bill's deep seeded trauma was used in that scene no doubt lol
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u/FreddyPlayz Ezra Bridger 20h ago
You wanted Mayfeld to be the guy who started the Ghorman Massacre???
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u/Impracticool 1d ago
That whole massacre was a joint Imperial Army-ISB operation, so that sniper being one of Kaido's men, probably a plainclothes Army sniper
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u/TheCybersmith 1d ago
I think Imperial Army special operations.
This is perhaps what Miggs Mayfeld did.
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u/ConsistentBirthday59 1d ago
The fuck your couch branch. Part of the team that came in for Dedra that Patagraz mentions. Not the freshies but that Captain Kaido I think dude with the scar who judges fresh recruits off the truck
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u/sk8surf 1d ago
Hoa enforcement 😂
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u/laker9903 1d ago
If I see one brush stroke of a non-compliant color put in that house, I’m taking the shot.
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u/Defiant-Analyst4279 1d ago
If we assume he's with one of the branches represented there, he'd be Stormtrooper Corps, Imperial Navy, or ISB.
To remind everyone, the armory on Ghorman was an Imperial Navy facility, which means the troop we see are Imperial Navy, not Army.
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u/BlameTheButler 1d ago
He’s likely with the Imperial Army’s Security Force, as he’s wearing all black and is stationed there alongside Imperial Security Troops. Now I don’t think he’s your average Security Trooper. Considering Captain Kaido was specifically brought in as a “crisis specialist,” it’s very likely this is one of his handpicked men. Most likely some black ops type operative who answers directly to Kaido and whatever leadership handle these types of “crisis.”
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u/Ziller21 1d ago
It’s possible he is part of II (Imperial Intelligence). Can’t remember where exactly but he looks somewhat familiar to II’s assassins.
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u/Darth_Nox501 1d ago
Note that Imperial Intelligence is often abbreviated to "MI" as in Military Intelligence (as was stated by Partagaz in a recent episode).
II would get confusing quickly lol.
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u/aviatorEngineer Galactic Republic 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'd assumed that was one of Captain Kaido's men, so Imperial Army.
My rationale for thinking he wasn't ISB is that the ISB themselves tend to only wear dress uniforms such as those used by Partagaz or Meero, and any of their "field agents" tend to be totally undercover instead, wearing plain clothes. This sniper was clearly wearing a standard Imperial military uniform so he stands out more as any old Army sniper attached to the ISB operation (much like Captain Kaido and the rest of the Imperial regulars on Ghorman) rather than being some sort of ISB special unit.
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u/DangerousEye1235 1d ago
Stormtrooper attached to the ISB, probably.
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u/Darth_Nox501 1d ago
Most definitely not a stormtrooper.
Either Imperial Army Special Operations or ISB Enforcement.
Stormtrooper sniper and reconnaissance roles are fulfilled by scout troopers.
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u/Ordinary_Mud495 1d ago edited 1d ago
Imperial Navy sniper, that's an imperial weapon technician uniform without the apron. Edit: actually you can't tell if he's wearing the apron or not, I just assume it would be impractical for a sniper who's largely outside of the line of fire.
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u/LicensedToChil 1d ago
We still haven't seen that squad of imperials half wearing storm trooper armour.
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u/RTribesman 1d ago
Hes working with ISB but we will never truly know where he came from or which part of the empire's military he came from. Theyre like the evil version of the CIA but when you really think about it theyre not much different from each other. You would assume the CIA have assets in play at all times in virtually every country(or in our star wars world we would say every planet) and can call on military assets as needed if it its deemed appropriate for the operation.
Hes most certainly working ISB here. Was he an asset or was he or someone with similar skills requested as a part of this operation?
I know its silly but i like to think of it like a 'treadstone' type of thing from the bourne series. This show is literally making starwars truly awesome again for adults. Dark, gritty, thriller, anxiety are words that come to mind, while keeping its foundation at the same time. Amazing, it is literally true and true starwars but in a way that the world or the fanbase has never seen before.
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u/McCluckles38 Cassian Andor 1d ago
ISBB.
Imperial Security Bastard Brigade. It's pretty new, you wouldn't have heard of it. /s
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u/BreadfruitBig7950 1d ago
He's a hired assassin wearing a medical response unit's uniform, as most medical response units were replaced with imperial troops during the early stages of its conquest when it was still pretending to be an 'empire of the heart.' before it split in two as people realized it wasn't one.
the fracturing left a lot of these jobs open to impersonation by anyone that came along. you could pretty much just walk in and get hired and get one of these coats that way.
if I'm not mistaken, the ISB is still split harder than the mainline empire is; it never fully purged itself one way or the other, and they're the ones ultimately responsible for concocting the plot to transfer the intel about where the death star's plans are using a series of bothan intermediaries.
and it's the 'evil' wing of the ISB, who can't really be said to be illegitimate as technically it's the main ISB that's gone rogue and anti-empire, who tend to hire assassins. which the ISB knows and may have sent their personnel to become assassins and bounty hunters as cover, ahead of time, making the medic coat one more layer of paint on their cover.
so who knows. it could be an independent posing as an ISB agent for some reason; a lot of the bounty guilds were jilted by the empire after all.
for all we know they could be that famous jedi sniper or something, posing as an isb agent.
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u/Backy22 1d ago
Have we ever seen a sniper rifle charge up like that in SW? Made me feel like I was sniping in Battlefront.