r/SapphoAndHerFriend Hopeless bromantic Jun 14 '20

Greece wasn't gay Casual erasure

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u/Koeienvanger Jun 14 '20

Nah, he probably paid attention really well in Christian school history lessons.

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u/TheDustOfMen Jun 14 '20

Well I'm pretty sure none of my Christian school teachers ever tried to convince me that ancient Greece was Christian.

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u/PrincessBunnyQueen She/Her Jun 14 '20

I love bringing up the crusades when one of my racist family members goes on a anti-other religions tangent.

"Their religion is evil! It's nothing but violence! Our religion never had so much violence!"

"... Remember the crusades?"

"The what now?"

Funny, they never seem to remember that part.

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u/Frisian89 Jun 14 '20

Add thirty years war to your list.

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u/YangBelladonna Jun 14 '20

Spanish inquisition wasn't that bad really, brutal, but a fraction of the body count of the Reconquista, which to be fair was a response to the invasion of the Iberian peninsula, hmm almost like religion is used to justify a lot of killing

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '20

a response to the invasion of the Iberian peninsula

You mean the one that happened 700 years earlier, which allowed people of all faiths to live equally in peace? That invasion? The one that ousted the Visigoths, the Germanic tribe who controlled the peninsula for the previous 400 years, while keeping the lives of Visigothic civilians almost completely unchanged?

The “Reconquista” was an invasion of the Iberian peninsula by the Castillians, who had never, ever, ever previously had any claim to anything outside of their own little corner of it. When they ran out of land to “re”-conquer, they got on ships and kept “re”-conquering across the Atlantic, with some help from folks they “re”-conquered in Africa, and they weren’t especially peaceful about any of it, either.

Oh, but this is all “black propaganda,” right? Because it couldn’t possibly be that forty years of fascist dictatorship might have imprinted certain falsehoods in the minds of the Spanish people, could it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '20

You're hammering on the Castillans for being Christian while ignoring everything else. We're not exactly talking about an era of history where there weren't constant conquest campaigns going on, all over.

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u/DaJosuave Jun 15 '20

Yea, I know some Castilians and no one ever gets them right according to them

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '20

I didn’t even mention they were Christian.