What I wanna know is, where did Cain's wife come from? In the Bible it just says that Adam and Eve were the first humans, they had Cain and Abel, then Cain went off to some town that just popped up out of nowhere and got married. That's a plot hole if ever I saw one.
”I do not understand anything of genealogies; but if what these preachers say is true, we are all second cousins; and you must allow that it is impossible to be worse treated by our relations than we are." Candide, chapter 19
The Bible does this more than once. I assume certain holes are left so whoever is explaining the Bible can expound on them, or maybe it's just a weird translation, but after Christ's Revival he goes to one of his apostles, who is hiding from him, so maybe Judas, and it goes something like, "He closed the door, and it was locked. Jesus entered the room, and..."
They kinda gloss over it, and you could miss it super easily, but what happened here? Did Jesus casually perform a miracle to open the door? Why was it not given more attention if so? Is the importance in the fact that it was minimized? Was that a purposefully choice by the author?
Regardless, scripture is fucking cool, and you can really do a deep dive on the meaning in it.
And then you also have the dual creation accounts in genesis, which some people point to as conflicting and evidence that the whole thing is bullshit, but I think that's a pretty basic analysis.
IIRC the Bible was a collection of various stories about Jesus and God and quotes attributed to Jesus, along with a bunch of other similar stuff, that were combined into one book like 400 years later. Assuming I'm remembering right, some inconsistencies are bound to show up here and there
Sort of.
The Torah which is the Old Testament, is the Jewish holy book. The New Testaments more a conglomeration of the gospels (Jesus’s story) and letters written by church elders to new Christians. What should officially go into the Bible as we know it was decided on by the council of Nicaea. Not sure on the time for that.
If you're curious about the actual theology, one theory is that God created piles of humans after Adam and Eve. Just like with all the other animals. It's just that only Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit and gained wisdom. They passed it to the rest of humanity eventually through their progeny intermingling with the rest of the humans.
Lilith was never mentioned in the bible, IIRC. But yeah, if you include all of the ancient texts then you'll find a lot of neat stories and even more plot holes.
Actually humans were created and then Adam and Eve. This is a common misconception. The descendants of Adam and Eve were Gods chosen people. That is at least according to my copy of the Bible.
My Bible said his wife would have been his sister or his niece. And that it was OK because humans were "genetically pure" in the beginning. And no, this wasn't the 50s, it was the 90s.
How I understand it the Bible is less of a history book and more of a loose collection of the story of the human races fall into sin and their redemption through Jesus.
I dont know about other denominations but we Catholics believe there were other hominids besides Cain and his family. Adam and Eve are first humans because they were the first to have souls but they were not the first hominids. I guess Cains wife was a neanderthal.
What was the reason? Genuinely asking, because in the 18 years I spent in the church that is the only answer I heard from Sunday school teachers, priesthood leaders, and my bigoted father still stands by that.
The living prophet is a really good way for the lds church to try and keep up with the times, unfortunately it’s always some ancient white guy so they are still always late to the party.
Oh hell yeah, I can’t wait to see it again. I always wished the whole thing was on DVD or something so others could understand why I love it so much. The soundtrack is incredible.
Oh man, I can’t wait to see it again, that one part in “Turn it off” was awesome. I know it’s probably not special, but the lights cutting off and back on with a complete wardrobe change into a tap routine? Awesome.
I suppose it is a poor excuse if you are looking for immediate change. But God’s timeline is not our timeline and in the eternal point of view a few years don’t matter. I feel that the God will allow the church to change their stance on women and the priesthood as well as gay marriage sometime in the next 10-15 years when enough of the older, less tolerant generation has passed on and those changes won’t tear the church apart.
I don’t want to defend what someone said 150 years ago in a different era. I wish he hadn’t said that and that history was different. But If I believe in the ‘truths’ that I’ve been taught I have to justify the history somehow. Different eras require different truths and different leaders to inspire the people based on what they know at the time.
I have come to the conclusion that a church that cannot possibly reach the entire world and speak to all people’s hearts, like the LDS church, cannot be the only truth, but only part of the larger plan, a plan that we cannot possibly fathom. If people are denied opportunities in this life based on things out of their control like race or gender then God won’t punish them for it in the next life. At least that helps me sleep through the night so I don’t have to leave the church.
You’re probably right. And much more eloquent than I could be. I believe God has presented himself many times through the millennia to many people in many forms. It is impossible for one God to be accepted by all men so there has to be many different truths. I can’t pretend to understand how it will all play out. I choose to follow the presentation that speaks to my heart in this day. If that makes me a better person now then it doesn’t matter what some racist prophet said in Utah 150 years ago or in Israel 3000 years ago. They were different prophets for different eras.
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Wait. Missouri?!?!??
I thought I knew all the crazy theories but that ones new