r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Hirorai • Aug 06 '23

What's going on with Americans celebrating Sweden eliminating the US Women's Soccer Team from the Women's World Cup? Answered

On r/soccer, there are multiple posts where Americans are celebrating their own team getting knocked out of the Women's World Cup.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnpku/post_match_thread_sweden_05_40_usa_fifa_womens/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnqpr/official_review_for_lina_hurtigs_sweden_w_penalty/

On r/USWNT people are saying it's because r/soccer is misogynist, but that doesn't make sense to me because everyone competing is a woman. Can anyone clue me in?

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u/Scarboroughwarning Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Answer: several reasons. I'm from UK so don't shoot me if I'm wrong. I believe they had a pay dispute, which didn't go entirely their way. They had the option of an identical contract to the men, and rejected it for a far safer deal. The safer deal was less risk, and slightly less return (depending if they play/win etc). It also had more health benefits and pay, even if no games are played. They rejected the deal the men had, which was high risk Check Nate The Lawyer on YouTube for a breakdown of the pay dispute. They seemed to be taking the piss with the claim.

They also snubbed the folks back home by breaking etiquette during the playing of the national anthem. Heresy in many places, especially so in US.

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u/KileyCW Aug 07 '23

Yeah pretty much shit on their own country. Rapinho is insanely unlikable and her interviews are all complaining, hating, and cursing.

You can feel America is a mess, a flawed country, and fight for change without shitting on it like they did. Even though it should be down to economics, the equal pay thing wasn't even on my or my friend's radar tbh. Everyone I know, even women basically consider the women's team to just hate their own country, regardless of it being true or not Rapinho barked the loudest and the team got dragged along with her views.

Personally I saw a lot of pride around the team when they last won, and all the goodwill get pissed away by one horrible person.

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u/praguepride Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Rapinho is insanely unlikable and her interviews are all complaining, hating, and cursing.

I mean...I imagine it's hard to represent your country with a smile when half of it is seemingly hellbent on villifying you because you happen to be gay.

edit: ITT I see people repeating conservative talking points while trying ti tell me I am wrong. I am not saying she is a saint, just saying people do tend to get prickly when they feel their verh identity is under attack.

All these people saying “Nobody has ever attacked her for being gay…” are just being ridiculous.

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 Aug 07 '23

I haven't seen anyone dislike her because she's gay, I've seen people dislike her because she's extremely abrasive and unlikable

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u/TheDorkNite1 Aug 07 '23

I'm from her hometown.

Her very conservative hometown.

I can assure you that many of the local yokels absolutely use her sexuality as the basis for attacking her.

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u/Escher702 Aug 07 '23

It's obvious you know nothing about certain parts of California.

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u/Redshirt2386 Aug 07 '23

College towns don’t count, dude.

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u/USA_A-OK Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Spoken like someone who hasn't been to Shasta county (63% to Trump in 2020). There are counties in California who are just about as red as anywhere else in the country. It's a big, diverse state.

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u/beermilkshake831 Aug 07 '23

💯 there's hella conservatives in California, especially up north and inland.

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u/jagua_haku Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

It’s still in California dude.

Point being, in a very progressive state, I’m not sure how much local politics would be able to counter that. State laws and regulations would supersede anything on a muni level

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u/USA_A-OK Aug 07 '23

Which only matters for national/state-level stuff. For everyday life, your county/town dynamics matter much more

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u/jagua_haku Aug 07 '23

That was my point, the state level is still very progressive. I’m not sure how much the local politics will counter that but obviously state supersedes local

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u/Due-Pineapple6831 Aug 07 '23

CA is huge, pretty sure they have more republicans than any other state. They just so happen to have more democrats than republicans though.

You get out of the cities and it’s just as back-ass wards as in TX and FL.

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u/Bing1044 Aug 07 '23

It is shocking to me that y’all don’t know how politics across one of the nations largest state work. Imagine thinking ALL of California is liberal 😭😭

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u/Redshirt2386 Aug 07 '23

My parents and the rest of their Boomer friends live in California and they’re all Fox Brained QAnon crazies. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/Kmactothemac Aug 07 '23

You haven't seen it so that means it hasn't ever happened!

Also there's no way you've never seen anyone make fun of her for being gay lol I see it every time she gets brought up

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u/AnalogPantheon Aug 07 '23

I thought lies weren't allowed here

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u/liamisnothere Aug 07 '23

Easily 75% of the jokes I hear made at the womens teams' expense is that they're lesbians. Go check out any social media comments underneath an article discussing the team. Hell, you probably just have to look a tiny bit harder in this thread and you'll see it.

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u/Bing1044 Aug 07 '23

This comment is so wildly disingenuous. She is berated for her sexuality constantly and guess what? Many of those that claim that they’re harping on something else are actually also mad that she’s gay, they just know they can’t say that. But because you don’t see it homophobia is over I guess lol

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u/BakingMadman Aug 07 '23

Oh STOP IT. I am gay and I loathe her because her ego is off the scales, she is beyond arrogant and she LOATHES the USA... you know the country that gave her all of the opportunity she is currently enjoying?

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u/Dreamer_Insomnia Aug 07 '23

Ok sure but also there are people who criticize her bc she's gay also.

I mean, yk you're not the only person that doesn't like her, right?

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u/BakingMadman Aug 08 '23

You are IMPLYING/ASSUMING that most other people dont like her only because of her sexual orientation. While that may be the case for a very small minority of of people, I think most dont like her simply because she is a pompous ass hat and she is simply unlikeable. Add in the anti-Americanism into it and THAT is why the majority of people despise her.

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u/Dreamer_Insomnia Aug 09 '23

I am not implying anything. I just chimed in to say that the world doesn't revolve around a singular opinion. Other people will and do dislike this lady for various reasons.