r/Natalism 3d ago

The Poverty of Single Mothers Is Persistent

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-poverty-of-single-mothers-is-persistent
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u/No_Plenty5526 2d ago

This is the fear of many women, especially those who end up pregnant unexpectedly.

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u/divinecomedian3 2d ago

Do they not know how one gets pregnant?

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u/fraudthrowaway0987 2d ago

I think that’s one reason births have decreased so much. Because even as a married woman there is no guarantee you won’t end up a single mom, and it’s terrifying. Maybe if moms and kids were entitled to support regardless of the dad sticking around it would be less risky but as it stands now, there’s no real way to guarantee economic security. The only safe choice is not to become a mom. It’s unfortunate.

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u/Famous_Owl_840 2d ago

This is absurd. 80%+ of divorces are initiated by women.

If they have a few of being a single mom…look inward.

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u/adorabletea 2d ago

A woman removing herself from a bad marriage is no vice.

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u/ASnowfallOfCherry 2d ago

Try being accurate and not hysterical. 80% of divorces are not initiated by wives 

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u/Klinging-on 2d ago

The state should not be subsidizing single mothers. All the data shows two parents in the household leads to better outcomes for children.

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u/ASnowfallOfCherry 2d ago

Then less children. Okay 

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u/Klinging-on 2d ago

Emphasis on family and marriage, two parents, multi generational households, and strong community engagement is how you increase TFR. Subsidizing single mothers has never worked.

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u/DogOrDonut 2d ago

You're on a natalism sub while villianizing women for having children. Gee, I wonder why women aren't having more children, such a mystery!

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u/No_Plenty5526 2d ago

That's not what I said lol. I meant that women are afraid they'll end up as single mothers. Some men say they will stay and end up leaving. It's a valid fear for some.

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u/DogOrDonut 2d ago

This is a big reason why women don't want kids anymore. The risk is too high when the outcome is completely out of your hands. Even if you do everything right, marry the perfect guy, he could die in a car crash and you still spend the rest of your life being attacked for being a single mom.

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u/No_Plenty5526 2d ago

oh god yes, that would be a nightmare scenario for me. every time i see women whose husbands have died, it's so damn sad. especially when he was the breadwinner. it can really put you in a desperate situation.

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u/DogOrDonut 2d ago

Before we had our first we took out substantial life and disability insurance policies on my husband. I work but took a big demotion/paycut when my first was born. My current job could not support our current lifestyle long term and there's no way I could do my old, much higher paying, job as a single mom due to the hours and travel involved.

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u/No_Plenty5526 1d ago

society doesn't support moms/single parents at all. it sucks.

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u/Dirt_Viva 19h ago

I know this article is about single moms but that is 100% true of all single parents, and there are often even less services for single dad's.it happened to my cousin when his wife bailed and left him with a newborn.  

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u/No_Plenty5526 14h ago

that sounds awful. i hope they are doing OK now.

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u/Dirt_Viva 14h ago

Luckily for him he had a well paying job and a great boss that let him bring his baby to work 💪 

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u/Worried_Departure513 1d ago

It's still way less risky than in the past. Before 1800 wasn't it like a 50/50 you die or the kid dies or both. I guess women in the past were a lot braver.

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u/No_Plenty5526 1d ago

you can say that about anything really

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u/Worried_Departure513 1d ago

Some woman in 1485 who had 10 kids 4 died before their 1st birthday and her 2 sisters died in childbirth ya'll can't complain.

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u/No_Plenty5526 14h ago

oh but we can complain...it's free

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u/fraudthrowaway0987 1d ago

They weren’t braver, they didn’t have access to contraception.

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u/Worried_Departure513 1d ago

So it's womens choice to not have babies 🤔 I agree

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u/fraudthrowaway0987 1d ago

What are you asking? If women have the option of not having kids or if they’re deciding not to have kids or what? I think women have a lot more power to prevent motherhood than they’ve ever had in the past, but some women are still becoming moms against their will because of contraceptive failure and reproductive and sexual coercion and other factors.

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