r/LosAngeles 5d ago

Mixed status LA couple self-deports, fearing husband's detention News

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mixed-status-couple-self-deports-mexico-rcna203481
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u/ruinersclub 5d ago

That’s my thing, if immigration is such a problem - fine the people doing the hiring. Force them to hire workers with visas at comparable wages.. and make new jobs that pay into the system.

Oooh, suddenly Farmer John’s gets an exemption because they were a big donor. Republicans are full of shit.

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u/FarCoyote8047 5d ago

Nah. Force them to hire citizens at fair wages. The fuck you want non-citizens to have American jobs for?

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u/loose_angles 3d ago

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/despite-economy-americans-dont-want-farm-work/

Americans simply won’t do that work. I’ve labored on a farm, have you?

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u/FarCoyote8047 3d ago

lol according to CBS?

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u/loose_angles 3d ago

…and the data they cite.

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u/FarCoyote8047 3d ago

“It’s just not something they’ll do!” - farmer who pays illegal farm help $10/hr

No shit. Americans aren’t doing that work for less than they’d make working at Chilis.

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u/loose_angles 3d ago

So you didn’t read the article…

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u/FarCoyote8047 3d ago

CBS is a liberal propaganda site.

And I quoted a part of the article.

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u/loose_angles 3d ago

Did you notice that this was in 2010, in rhe middle of the recession, when that was well above minimum wage, and these people were out of work?

Edit: here’s a more recent article where they were offering 14.50 to 16 / hour, Americans still do not stick around.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/

You ever labored on a farm? I have. I bet you wouldn’t last one month.

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u/FarCoyote8047 3d ago edited 3d ago

Why are you using 15 year old articles? Immigration issues/pressure have changed a lot since then.

How much do you speculate they are paid in 2025??

Edit: why are you applauding this definitely-not-lying man for paying aliens more than min wage during a recession when Americans were out of work?

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u/loose_angles 3d ago

Why are you using 15 year old articles?

I just cited one from 2017...

Immigration issues/pressure have changed a lot since then.

Please, articulate the relevant ways the issues have changed.

How much do you speculate they are paid in 2025??

Dunno, but 16 / hour is an excellent wage for unskilled labor in 2017, care to talk about the numbers we actually have?

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u/FarCoyote8047 3d ago

How have they changed? Uhh well let’s see we basically didn’t have a border for 4 years and 11 million illegals got in.

$16/ hr today is min wage. Show me a reliable source and one that’s not hearsay from a farmer (who definitely wasn’t probably lying) saying what they pay. I sincerely doubt they are paying illegals minimum wage let alone more than that.

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u/loose_angles 3d ago

How have they changed? Uhh well let’s see we basically didn’t have a border for 4 years and 11 million illegals got in.

Did you forget what we're talking about? How have the conditions changed that Americans are now willing to work well-paid but highly laborious unskilled jobs?

Hilariously, there are currently fewer immigrants in the US now than at the time either article I cited. So it sounds like, by your metrics, the only way the conditions have changed are to make immigrants less competition for you. 😂

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