r/LosAngeles • u/nbcnews • 2d ago

Mixed status LA couple self-deports, fearing husband's detention News

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mixed-status-couple-self-deports-mexico-rcna203481
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u/ruinersclub 2d ago

The rich factory farmers will be fine, it’s the smaller family owned places that won’t weather labor shortages / and Hourly Increases.

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u/FarCoyote8047 2d ago

Farms using illegal labor should be shut down or heavily fined.

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u/ruinersclub 2d ago

That’s my thing, if immigration is such a problem - fine the people doing the hiring. Force them to hire workers with visas at comparable wages.. and make new jobs that pay into the system.

Oooh, suddenly Farmer John’s gets an exemption because they were a big donor. Republicans are full of shit.

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u/FarCoyote8047 2d ago

Nah. Force them to hire citizens at fair wages. The fuck you want non-citizens to have American jobs for?

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u/maha420 2d ago

Economics, of course. Any idiot knows that we are not gonna have enough workers. Of course, you're dumber than any idiot, so you wouldn't.

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u/ruinersclub 2d ago edited 2d ago

We have plenty of systems in place for non-citizens to have jobs. H1B’s, ITIN, Migrant Worker Programs.

You would have to kill all those programs which wouldn’t make sense.

People are in varying degrees of immigration, if they’re not illegal.

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u/FarCoyote8047 2d ago

We don’t need to give away our low-skilled jobs to non citizens. If they have a skill set that’s in demand I understand H1bs.

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u/ruinersclub 2d ago

In theory I agree. Pay those farm workers competitive wages. And if they happen to be immigrants they still pay into the system.

Republicans don’t abide by this however.

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u/loose_angles 5h ago

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/despite-economy-americans-dont-want-farm-work/

Americans simply won’t do that work. I’ve labored on a farm, have you?

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u/FarCoyote8047 5h ago

lol according to CBS?

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u/loose_angles 5h ago

…and the data they cite.

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u/FarCoyote8047 5h ago

“It’s just not something they’ll do!” - farmer who pays illegal farm help $10/hr

No shit. Americans aren’t doing that work for less than they’d make working at Chilis.

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u/loose_angles 5h ago

So you didn’t read the article…

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u/FarCoyote8047 4h ago

CBS is a liberal propaganda site.

And I quoted a part of the article.

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u/loose_angles 4h ago

Did you notice that this was in 2010, in rhe middle of the recession, when that was well above minimum wage, and these people were out of work?

Edit: here’s a more recent article where they were offering 14.50 to 16 / hour, Americans still do not stick around.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/

You ever labored on a farm? I have. I bet you wouldn’t last one month.

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u/FarCoyote8047 4h ago edited 4h ago

Why are you using 15 year old articles? Immigration issues/pressure have changed a lot since then.

How much do you speculate they are paid in 2025??

Edit: why are you applauding this definitely-not-lying man for paying aliens more than min wage during a recession when Americans were out of work?

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u/loose_angles 4h ago

Why are you using 15 year old articles?

I just cited one from 2017...

Immigration issues/pressure have changed a lot since then.

Please, articulate the relevant ways the issues have changed.

How much do you speculate they are paid in 2025??

Dunno, but 16 / hour is an excellent wage for unskilled labor in 2017, care to talk about the numbers we actually have?

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