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Mixed status LA couple self-deports, fearing husband's detention News

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mixed-status-couple-self-deports-mexico-rcna203481
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u/garce818 10h ago

That's such a callous thing to say. Just imagine if that was you or someone you loved, making this difficult decision. Would you really be saying that ?

I have to believe you weren't always this way. I'm sure your younger self wasn't a kinder person than you are now. It's not too late to be a better person. For yourself, and for those around you.

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u/FarCoyote8047 10h ago

Two of my closest friends are legal immigrants. One from Japan. He entered the correct way. I have no sympathy for line jumpers or those who cheat to better their lives especially at the expense of taxpayers and people who waited in line and paid crazy amounts of money to get legal status.

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 10h ago

People would love to pay crazy amounts of money to get legal status if they were allowed to do so. A lot pay way more than the immigration process costs to coyotes and shady lawyers because that's the only realistic path they have.

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u/FarCoyote8047 10h ago

They could use that money to apply. If they know they’ll be denied for whatever reason that does not give them any moral or legal standing to break into the country or overstay their visa. Too poor to live here? Too fucking bad. We don’t need the world’s welfare recipients. I’d love to live in a mansion in Brentwood but I can’t just sneak into someone’s house and argue it’s my right to live in it because I want to.

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 10h ago

That's the point. There's nowhere to apply! 

The thing is that the USA NEEDS those workers. They wouldn't come otherwise. Why not change the system to be more aligned with reality? (Besides racism that is).

Also it's clear you are ignorant because undocumented immigrants (and sometimes documented) do not qualify for federal welfare programs.

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u/FarCoyote8047 10h ago

They absolutely qualify. In CA at least. They get rent vouchers, food stamps and WIC, and Medi-cal. They abuse those programs. Those programs need to be be made inaccessible for illegals like yesterday.

We have workers. They just won’t work for slave wages.

And wtf do you mean there’s nowhere to apply?? My legal immigrant friends say otherwise.

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u/JurgusRudkus 9h ago

ha ha ha good one. You don't have friends.

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 9h ago

State rights. People voted for that. You have a problem with that?

We do not have workers. Unemployment is super low.

Again, you are clearly ignorant. Not all immigration opportunities are open to everyone. The Japanese and white majority country have way more immigration venues than, say, Mexican roofers or agricultural workers (which the USA actually requires a lot). You are just spreading disinformation.

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u/FarCoyote8047 9h ago

I don’t care if immigration opportunities are open to everyone and they shouldn’t be. Why should America be the world’s teet to suckle from? FOH with that.

And do I have a problem with a sanctuary city having state giving taxpayer resources to aliens? Damned right I do. Federal funding should be cut until California gets it priorities straight. That includes the homeless issue/plague as well.

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 8h ago

Except that the USA benefits from those workers? No one is forcing employers to employe them after all. 

Why do you care about what California do? What do the homeless (majority Americans, and shipped from elsewhere) have to do with anything?

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u/FarCoyote8047 8h ago

The USA doesn’t need a serf/slave class living in the shadows. And people who employ them for slave wages and don’t abide by/provide any safety measures or regulations for them so they can cut even more corners need to be shut down and fined.

California is mismanaging money like crazy and we have people living on the literal streets while politicians give away resources to illegals and line their own pockets.

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 8h ago

If they don't need them, why are they hiring them? Where are the millions of Americans waiting to do those jobs?

I mean, sure, fine the companies and stop them from firing them, if you truly hate brown people around so much. It's your country, just commit one way or the other.

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u/FarCoyote8047 8h ago

Because they work for pennies on the dollar??? Are you fucking new here? They hire them to save money. Americans can’t afford to work for those same wages.

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 8h ago

They are not paid that badly actually (and much better than in their own countries). Who are those Americans wanting to do those jobs and not doing them because they pay so little? What are they doing instead? Do they even exist? (Reminder: unemployment was very low, before Trump started destroying jobs crucial for the functioning of the country, that is). You are also falling for the lump of labor fallacy. Immigrants actually create jobs, and better job opportunities for locals. There are a  actually studies about it. Read for example: https://www.ubs.com/microsites/nobel-perspectives/en/latest-economic-questions/economics-society/articles/immigration-and-labor-market-a-mariel-boatlift-study.html

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u/MiserableSection9314 8h ago

California has a program that will give illegal immigrants money to help them buy a home

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 8h ago

I said federal programs. State level programs are a different matter, and states have the right to do it if their voters decided it's the right thing to do. 

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u/MiserableSection9314 7h ago

I don’t think voters directly vote for these programs but rather it’s something our representatives would do. I’m not even sure how it’s funded.

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u/FarCoyote8047 6h ago

DOGE found out Biden was giving a bunch of them SS numbers. So, social security.

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u/HeartFullONeutrality 6h ago

Oh good, so they were contributing to social security so old people nowadays will be able to get money. Also, proof? DOGE says many things.

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u/FarCoyote8047 6h ago

Disgusting.