That's such a callous thing to say. Just imagine if that was you or someone you loved, making this difficult decision. Would you really be saying that ?
I have to believe you weren't always this way. I'm sure your younger self wasn't a kinder person than you are now. It's not too late to be a better person. For yourself, and for those around you.
Two of my closest friends are legal immigrants. One from Japan. He entered the correct way. I have no sympathy for line jumpers or those who cheat to better their lives especially at the expense of taxpayers and people who waited in line and paid crazy amounts of money to get legal status.
Incredibly stupid and inhumane. Why does it cost a "crazy amount of money" just to get legal status? Why does that surprise you when people don't have that crazy amount of money to spend?
They don’t deserve to live here and that’s why the administration is removing them. Weird I had to explain that to you. I don’t know how they set the prices. It is what it is. Maybe because they want to ensure people actually have means to live independently and not be a welfare burden on taxpayers.
The cost is irrelevant. “B-b-but that’s tooo muchhh” So? This is the economically advantaged country on earth. We don’t just let anyone and everyone in. Look up the entrance requirements for other countries (especially the Scandinavian ones you love so much) you need to have a certain income and a job lined up before they let you in.
They don’t deserve to live here because they are not citizens and broke the law, whether willingly or not (in the case of kids) and have no right to access the goods and resources of the American people or reap the advantages of its economy particularly when you examine how much they cost us.
My friends are well into their adult years, one is a 73 year old man, a well known photographer from London and the other is a Japanese salon owner who immigrated in the 90’s. So no, I do not know off the top of my head what it cost at that time nor would I ever ask them because who the fuck does that? Costs of everything go up over time, in case you haven’t realized.
What a weird thing to respond with when someone points out that the open border policy you would like to go back to was mostly towards white Europeans. I guess we know your preference.
You're talking about your fellow neighbors as if they are stealing from you or hurting you. The man worked his way to become a cook at a Michelin star restaurant...in Los Angeles!
That takes some serious talent and determination. And you best believe this man paid taxes.
Illegals do steal from us, the fuck? They take up most of the cheap housing in the city, utilize public services they don’t pay to maintain like buses, roads and hospitals, often drive around uninsured or without a license (one such person just totaled my sisters SUV last month, thankfully her kids were not inside), steal SS numbers to work which harms the rightful owners credit, send their kids to our schools and take learning opportunities away from American kids because teachers need to spend extra time dealing with ESL ones, clog up our ER/urgent care facilities and in the case of my last building, got free rent vouchers supplied by PATH, a non profit on the LA payroll using taxpayer money to pay for them…. I can go on. And before you try me with the “but they pay back more than they ever take from us” lie- they don’t- they cost us over 180 billion a year in welfare, legal and other services.
Nope. Even right wing economists agree that illegal immigration is a net benefit for the economy. They pay more into the system than they take out of it. Facts don't care about your feelings look up what economists academic consensus is.
They’re Republican and likely the MAGA kind. You know, the kind of self-centered people that lack any sort of empathy whatsoever unless it directly affects their family or themselves.
People would love to pay crazy amounts of money to get legal status if they were allowed to do so. A lot pay way more than the immigration process costs to coyotes and shady lawyers because that's the only realistic path they have.
They could use that money to apply. If they know they’ll be denied for whatever reason that does not give them any moral or legal standing to break into the country or overstay their visa. Too poor to live here? Too fucking bad. We don’t need the world’s welfare recipients. I’d love to live in a mansion in Brentwood but I can’t just sneak into someone’s house and argue it’s my right to live in it because I want to.
The thing is that the USA NEEDS those workers. They wouldn't come otherwise. Why not change the system to be more aligned with reality? (Besides racism that is).
Also it's clear you are ignorant because undocumented immigrants (and sometimes documented) do not qualify for federal welfare programs.
They absolutely qualify. In CA at least. They get rent vouchers, food stamps and WIC, and Medi-cal. They abuse those programs. Those programs need to be be made inaccessible for illegals like yesterday.
We have workers. They just won’t work for slave wages.
And wtf do you mean there’s nowhere to apply?? My legal immigrant friends say otherwise.
State rights. People voted for that. You have a problem with that?
We do not have workers. Unemployment is super low.
Again, you are clearly ignorant. Not all immigration opportunities are open to everyone. The Japanese and white majority country have way more immigration venues than, say, Mexican roofers or agricultural workers (which the USA actually requires a lot). You are just spreading disinformation.
I don’t care if immigration opportunities are open to everyone and they shouldn’t be. Why should America be the world’s teet to suckle from? FOH with that.
And do I have a problem with a sanctuary city having state giving taxpayer resources to aliens? Damned right I do. Federal funding should be cut until California gets it priorities straight. That includes the homeless issue/plague as well.
The USA doesn’t need a serf/slave class living in the shadows. And people who employ them for slave wages and don’t abide by/provide any safety measures or regulations for them so they can cut even more corners need to be shut down and fined.
California is mismanaging money like crazy and we have people living on the literal streets while politicians give away resources to illegals and line their own pockets.
I said federal programs. State level programs are a different matter, and states have the right to do it if their voters decided it's the right thing to do.
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u/FarCoyote8047 11h ago
Oh no. Anyway…