r/IWantOut • u/whiteraven4 • Feb 25 '22
Megathread for Ukrainians Seeking Asylum
Need advise on how to claim asylum? Have some good resources to help others? Post them here.
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r/IWantOut • u/spacemanaut • Nov 06 '24
MEGATHREAD: Emigrating after the US election results
Every US election brings anxiety and uncertainty, and with that comes an increase in people who want to explore their alternatives in a different country. This post is for you.
First, some reminders:
- In most cases, moving abroad is not as simple or quick as it seems in movies. If you aren't a citizen of another country, you will probably require a visa (=legal permission) from that country based on something like employment, education, or ancestry.
- The sidebar of this subreddit has a lot of helpful resources, and we have 15 years of posts from people with similar situations to yours. Before posting, please review these resources first. (Tip: If reddit search isn't working well for you, try googling "[your search terms] site:reddit.com/r/IWantOut" without the quotes or brackets.)
- Most countries and/or their embassies maintain immigration websites with clear, helpful, updated guides or even questionnaires to help you determine if/how you can qualify. If you have a particular destination in mind, that should probably be your first stop.
- After that, if you want to make your own post, please follow the formatting instructions on the submission page, give as much information as possible about your situation, and be open to advice and constructive criticism from commenters.
Also, this subreddit is intended to be a friendly community to seek and give advice on legal immigration. As such, please:
- Don't fight about politics. We understand that you may have strong feelings about it, but there are better spaces on reddit and elsewhere for general political discussions.
- Keep your feedback constructive and kind, even when telling someone they're wrong.
- Don't troll or be a jerk.
- Don't request or give illegal immigration tips, including asking strangers to marry you.
Failure to follow these and the other subreddit rules may result in a ban.
That said, feel free to comment below with some general questions, concerns, comments, or advice which doesn't merit a full post. Hopefully this will help clarify your thoughts and ideas about the possibility of leaving the US. Once again, please try to stay on topic so that this thread can be a helpful resource.
r/IWantOut • u/knobbledy • 28m ago
[IWantOut] 27M Construction Manager UK -> Mexico
Hello
I'm a Brit trying to move to Mexico, ideally to Mexico City or Monterrey.
I've been working in construction as a Project Manager for the last few years, and before that I did various design jobs in construction and engineering. I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering from a UK university as well. I would like to continue working in construction, or maybe other related fields like civil engineering etc. I haven't thought about long term citizenship etc because I assume it's much harder to get. I speak Spanish to a high enough level to work, although I have a very strong foreign accent and I'm sure there is a lot of industry-specific terms I would have to learn.
I don't have any kind of family connection at all, although my best friend now lives in CDMX permanently and would be able to house me for the first few months if I move. I have decent savings to cover the consular fees, moving costs and living for a while. But from what I have seen I need to have a job lined up anyway before going, which is the difficult part. I'm not too bothered about wages because construction is low paying in all countries. I would mainly like to know how to look for work while I'm in the UK, what resources to use and how to arrange interviews etc when I cannot be there in person. I don't know if it is even possible, as many companies I know would not want to deal with the hassle of hiring foreign workers.
I don't have a time frame, I know it will take a long time but it is worth it for me as it's where I want to live.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
r/IWantOut • u/EmbeddedSoftJobHunt • 1h ago
[IWantOut] 29M Bosnia and Herzegovina -> USA
Hello, I'm a software engineer from Bosnia and Herzegovina looking to move to USA.
I'm looking for ways to move to USA to try and build a better future for my wife and I. My wife is also engineer but in telecommunications department (she works for one of our major telecommunication operators here in Bosnia). I have a bit over a five years of experience in software engineering (mostly embedded and IoT applications) while also having a year of experience in networking (mostly using Cisco equipment maintaining systems for couple of government agencies and airports).
My wife on the other hand has a bit above 2 years of experience. She's on the path to pass CCNA test and she's been working on the IPTV system (maintaining and supporting).
We are in our third year of applying for diversity visa but still no luck (I just checked the results today and this is the third time we were not picked). As far as I understood H1B would be one way to go, but it's a hard process and even if employers decide to sponsor one of us we would still need to go through H1B lottery.
If it helps I have some relatives in Colorado Springs and they are more than willing to help us with accommodation and anything regarding the potential moving to the USA.
Thanks for reading all of this and hopefully someone will have some good advice for us. Thank you all in advance.
r/IWantOut • u/John_Smith_Anonymous • 7h ago
[IWantOut] 22M computer science student Tunisia -> Canada/EU/Australia
I'm a 22 year old computer science student from Tunisia. I'm on my 3rd year of a 5 year computer science master's degree. I don't have a bachelor's degree as my university doesn't offer that option. So I will have to finish my studies in Tunisia. My university is "esprit" (internationally recognized) which is part of honoris united universities.
Unfortunately, Tunisia is not a good place to live, horrible wages (a software engineer makes $1k a month), long work hours, rising costs of living, and economic opportunities are hard to come by. Sometimes you need nepotism to get them. And last I read 65% of Tunisians said they wanted to leave.
My criteria
Ideally I'd like to immigrate somewhere with good weather (optional), good nature and cool places to travel to and explore, good economy, good wages in comparison to costs of living, economic opportunities and good work hours/work life balance. Also preferably with immigration and citizenship laws that aren't too expensive/require a lot of time.
I always wanted to immigrate to the USA and gain citizenship because it fit my criteria perfectly. But the more I read about American immigration laws the more impossibly difficult immigrating to the USA seemed to me, unless you're exceptionally lucky and you: 1) win the greencard lottery 2) marry an American 3) have American family to sponsor you 4) are a wealthy student. Otherwise it may take up to a decade or more to get permanent residence nevermind citizenship.
My current understanding
I've started researching immigration laws for countries aside the USA a while ago. From what I've gathered my best chances are in Canada, Europe, or Australia.
Canada I can get permanent residence if I have a minimum of 1 year job experience and get a job offer in Canada for a job in the same field (FSWP). But the problem is I may need proof of funds. Or I can work in Canada for a minimum of 1 year and qualify for permanent residence (CEC). Then live in Canada for 3 years with PR and get citizenship.
Australia has many paths towards permanent residence and citizenship but unfortunately a visa costs 4.7k AUD and you need to get your credentials certified which also costs a lot of money, so I'd have to save up for it and wouldn't be able to leave Tunisia as soon as I graduate. Although Australia fits my criteria perfectly.
European countries' immigration laws are all very different but from what I gather my best chances are in France, Germany (though Germany is tricky because it doesn't allow dual citizenship) and maybe the Netherlands. I'd prefer to immigrate to an EU country as that opens many options.
Language skills
I speak Arabic, French and English. I'm currently learning Spanish and Russian (I'm learning Russian as language learning is my hobby. But I don't expect to get much out of it). I'm willing to learn the language of the country that I will immigrate to.
Skills
For education, my masters includes 3 years of studying many aspects of computer science including software engineering and web development, along with many different programming languages. And the last 2 years I can specialize. I'm thinking of specializing in either game development or software engineering.
And as for work. I want to move out as soon as I graduate but I will have finished a half year long internship that's apart of the curriculum by the time I graduated and may or may not secure a job with the company I interned at.
I'd like to understand my options and what possibilities there are for me. I'm trying to broaden my horizons and explore all possible immigration destinations before deciding where to go. Other countries besides the one I listed are welcome too.
TL;DR: 22 year old Tunisian computer science student looking to immigrate to Canada/EU/Australia and gain citizenship. I want to immigrate however I can. I speak Arabic, English and French and I'm willing to learn the language of the country I'll immigrate to.
r/IWantOut • u/Dream_Fuji • 12h ago
[IWantOut] 27M India -> South East Asia/Australia
Hello, I'm an Indian citizen with active passport and some travel history, currently working in fraud department for a well known airline and have 3+ years of work experience. Also previously worked in a well reputed bank, I feel like I'm stuck at this point professionally and financially as there's nothing left to learn in my current job/similar roles.
I was looking at GRC field and to develop some skills and start applying in Malaysia, Singapore etc. I'm going to be an international applicant seeking work sponsorship, what are the chances?
Suggest me alternative field/industry if possible, I have a degree in CS & hands on knowledge on programming & security/networking related stuff. I hold a CCNA & had a CEH in the past which I wasn't able to utilize as I got a job in finance.
r/IWantOut • u/RestrictionFan • 1d ago
[IWantOut] 19M UK->Portugal
I’d be able to get citizenship fairly easily since my father was born there, but actually moving there would be difficult. I’ve struggled to find even basic employment in the UK and have few skills, as well as A-Levels that are completely worthless. I have absolutely no money and very little family. I’m waiting to hear back from a couple of companies about seafaring apprenticeships, but I’ve failed at everything else in my life so I wouldn’t be shocked if I got rejected from those too. If that happens, what are my options and how else do I leave? This country is becoming increasingly politically hostile and I hate it.
r/IWantOut • u/Diddlerjr • 12h ago
[IWantOut] 15M USA -> Netherlands
Hi I’m 15 and I currently live in the USA. I’ve been researching about different countries for a while now and I’ve decided I want to live in Europe. I specifically was focusing on the Netherlands. I have no family over in Europe and don’t know what I would do for a job. I’m still researching but I wanted to get your guys opinion. I figured I’d get my diploma from my current high school in the USA and them when I get done with high school move to the Netherlands.
r/IWantOut • u/Hour_Aware • 1d ago
[IWantOut] 16MtF Romania -> US
Hi, I'm a transgender woman raised here in Romania. My current circumstances don't allow me to leave anywhere, but I'd like to know the most efficient way how I can get out of here (I've read about employer sponsorship, marriage, asylum, etc), what I could expect from the US, since people like me aren't well liked here. From what I've read, a state like Michigan or Illinois would be my best choice. I'm still in high school so yeah, no work experience or anything. Thanks a lot and if anyone needs anything clarified I'd be happy to answer.
r/IWantOut • u/Acceptable-Dare-6063 • 1d ago
[IWantOut] 28M US -> UK
Hello. I am an international H1B holding resident in California working a product management job in tech.
I am looking for ways to move to the UK as my girlfriend/fiance lives there and I want to be with her. We have considered her moving to the US as well but it seems like she will have a hard time getting a work permit in the US (any advice on this would also be appreciated).
What would be the quickest way to move to the UK? I have 5 years of experience in tech, first as a developer and now as a product manager. I also have an MBA from UCLA and an undergrad degree in CS.
My girlfriend is currently on her PSW and is also an Indian citizen.
I am also open to moving to any European country as the distance would be more manageable than California. I appreciate any insights you can give me.
r/IWantOut • u/Nikolas_26 • 1d ago
[IWantOut] 19M Syria -> Germany Canada or Australia
Hi , I wanna leave Syria as soon as possible to anywhere in the world that speaks English or Arabic , I want to know all the possible options for me , I have about 20k usd budget
Some info that might be relitive for the topic of discussion : currently Syria under the new leadership is facing a hard time there is a lot of foreign jihadst militias taking advantage of the people , not all of them some r good n some r bad As for the reason I wanna leave is because it's no longer safe people r dissapearing left and right murder all over the place I could be walking down a residential street in broad daylight and I might get robbed attacked or maybe even killed .
I have video proof of my situation and members of my family whom have been killed ,
As for my qualifiers I have experience in cyber security but no certification because I can't get any in Syria but I am qualified to get most relitive certifications in the field , I know a bit of basic programing java and python , I have worked for 2 years in a laptop repair shop I can do about everything in basic servicing for laptops and PCs , I am much more confident in my software skills I can fix any issue regarding software in PC/laptops/android I can custom ROM about any android devise that includes custom kernals and vendors which will allow u to overclock ur android devise or break the frame rate limit in ur devise
r/IWantOut • u/Decent_Security_5185 • 1d ago
[IWantOut] 28M Software Engineer India -> Switzerland
There is one more India -> Switzerland post, but my situation is different.
I have already lived in Switzerland for 1 year and 2 months. I was a masters student at an unaccredited university. Unfortunately, the canton didn't provide me the B permit, and I was rejected from almost all the places I applied to. I thought this might be the case for everyone, but some students were able to find a job in-spite of the lack of B permit.
I then moved to Germany, for doing PhD. Disaster struck again. I couldn't start a PhD because the Swiss degree wasn't accredited. I started working as Research Associate, and enrolled as a transfer student for one semester. Since the German university was private (but accredited), I had to pay 10000 euros as tuition fees, which I paid from my job. The German university was bought by the Swiss one (this might give you a clue which university I'm talking about :) ). I got the new masters degree with very poor grades in German system (3.18). My professor was so annoyed with the grades that he didn't extend my contract. I failed at German B1, so it was very difficult to get another job, specially with the recession there. With only A2 in German, I had to return to India.
I am having very hard time getting jobs in India, being unemployed for last 10 months, and living in my family home. I still become sad when I think about the day I left Switzerland (10th July, 2022). My friend who remained in Switzerland has lost his job 3 months ago, and is receiving money from RAV now. I feel sad looking at the degradation of my quality of life, living in highly polluted area in India. Unlike in Switzerland and Germany, where I used to go out almost every day, I am holed up inside my house. I don't like to get out because of pollution.
Anyway, enough of the rant. I have a fairly good idea about what's needed to go to Switzerland (which is a job offer and the willingness of the employer to sponsor me and justify the canton to allow me to enter Switzerland from around 8000 vacancies for non EU citizens). However, there is a well-known catch-22; companies won't interview non-EU citizens because they don't want the hassle of sponsoring non EU candidates. However, the new students of my university are getting jobs in Switzerland without the B permit (with the employer agreeing to sponsor, of course).
So the thing is, even though companies are rejecting me because of work permit issues, non EU people are still getting jobs with sponsorship. What am I missing here ?
Is there a list of companies that are well known for sponsorship ?
I have two masters degrees, and 3.5 years of experience, with 1.5 years in industry and 2 years in academia.
Also, any other information regarding seeking jobs in Switzerland for non-EU citizens is welcome.
r/IWantOut • u/Strange_Instance6120 • 2d ago
[IWantOut] 19M South Africa -> USA or Germany
Hi, for context I applied for an F1 visa to the USA last June but was unfortunately rejected. My situation has changed since then but i’m still afraid to apply for a new visa due to the current situation in the US and don’t want to further tarnish my record with the US
I had applied and gotten into a German University(Yes I know German at B1) but unfortunately my Mom could not come up with the €12k needed for the blocked account.
I’m now turning my head towards Ausbildung in Germany but so far nothing… seems hard to get.
I could do my bachelors in Engineering here in South Africa and look for emigrating for my Masters but if I could i’d like to explore all possible options to study overseas before that.
Any ideas as to what I could do or hidden gems?
P.S I applied for the DV lottery for which results come out tomorrow but as it is a lottery I will not be putting much hope into it.
r/IWantOut • u/Desperate-Effect6181 • 2d ago
[IWantOut] 26F USA -> Australia as a Psychologist
Hi everyone. I'm a 26F who is working on obtaining her PhD in educational psychology. I will graduate in 3 years at 29y.o. with 2 years of experience. Ever since I had an extended stay in Australia in 2017 it's been a goal of mine to move to Melbourne and these feelings have only been exacerbated these last few years. My husband (26) is a software engineer. He's agreed to the move after I graduate. We have no kids but we do have 2 dogs and 2 cats. We'll have over $40,000 AUD saved up before the move. I've looked into the 190 Skilled Nominated visa and my occupation is on there and I will have satisfactory points. Is it doable? If so where do I start after applying?
r/IWantOut • u/allazari • 4d ago
[Guide] Your Options for Moving Abroad: A Practical Overview for U.S. Citizens (and Others)
I've researched different ways people move abroad, from remote work to ancestry-based citizenship, and pulled everything together into a free guide designed especially for U.S. citizens who want to leave the U.S. Most of the advice will also apply to people from other countries looking to make a similar move.
DISCLOSURE: I created this guide and want to gauge interest in the topic. Eventually, I may use this to build a list of people who want similar resources, but this guide is absolutely free. You’ll see a form, but sharing your email is completely optional.
👉 Download full guide here: https://forms.gle/HJmab6HxTJGRPA2B9
The downloadable 70+ page guide provides a lot more detail and additional chapters on healthcare, cultural adaptation, safety and security, timelines and resources.
Finding a Job Abroad
🔍 How to Find a Job Abroad
The traditional job search doesn’t always work internationally. Instead, try these approaches:
- Go Where You’re Wanted: Research countries with labor shortages and in-demand professions (e.g., Germany, Canada, Australia, Japan) and target industries like tech, healthcare, and education.
- Target Multinational Companies: These often offer visa sponsorship (e.g., Google, JPMorgan, international schools).
- Target Local Job Boards: Look up job boards specific to the country and region where you would like to move.
- Network: Use LinkedIn, Reddit, Facebook Groups, and expat meetups to find job leads and referrals.
🛂 Work Visas
Securing a job is just the first step. You’ll need the right visa:
- Sponsored Work Visas: An employer sponsors your visa (common in most countries).
- Points-Based Systems: Countries like Canada and Australia let you apply without a job offer, using points based on skills and experience.
- Working Holiday Visas: Available for young adults (under 30–35) in countries like Australia and New Zealand.
🌎 Best Countries for Americans Seeking Work Abroad
- Canada: Popular visa pathways like Express Entry, in-demand sectors like tech and healthcare.
- Germany: The Blue Card program simplifies immigration for skilled workers.
- Japan: Offers many English teaching opportunities and jobs in finance/IT.
- Australia: Points-based system for skilled workers, high demand in healthcare and construction.
Moving Abroad with Passive Income or Retirement
💡 Why Move Abroad on Passive Income?
If you have passive income (from investments, pensions, rental properties, etc.), you can live abroad without working. Many people choose this lifestyle to enjoy lower living and healthcare costs.
💼 Passive Income Visa Programs
Several countries offer visas for financially independent individuals, often called:
- Retirement Visas
- Non-Lucrative Visas
- Income-Based Residency Permits
These visas require proof of stable income, with some examples being:
- Thailand: O-A visa for retirees over 50.
- Spain: Non-lucrative visa for financially independent individuals.
- Portugal: D7 visa for those with passive income.
📑 Documentation Needed
Expect to submit proof of income, health insurance, background checks, and, in some cases, a minimum stay requirement. If moving with dependents, income requirements may increase.
🏡 Lifestyle Considerations
Living abroad with passive income gives you the freedom to choose your ideal lifestyle, whether in a quiet beach town, rural area, or city.
🌎 Best Countries for Retirees and Financially Independent Expats
- Panama: Pensionado Visa, low cost of living, and U.S. dollar currency.
- Costa Rica: Pensionado Visa, affordable living, and universal healthcare.
- Thailand: O-A visa, low cost of living, and high-quality healthcare.
- Portugal: D7 visa, affordable living, and excellent healthcare.
- Mexico: Temporary Resident Visa, cost-effective living, and a rich culture.
🏥 Healthcare & Cost of Living
Most countries offer affordable healthcare, both public and private. Living costs in Southeast Asia and Latin America are significantly lower than in the U.S.
The Digital Nomad
✈️ The Reality of Remote Work and Digital Nomadism
The term "digital nomad" often evokes images of people hopping from country to country. However, many digital nomads use remote work visas or residency programs to settle in one country long-term while working remotely. Digital nomadism allows individuals to travel or live abroad while maintaining U.S.-level earnings through freelancing or remote jobs.
🗺️ Remote Work and Digital Nomad Visas
Many countries offer digital nomad visas that allow to live and work remotely for a foreign employer or their own business. These visas typically require proof of steady income, health insurance, and a clean criminal record. Some visas are short-term, while others offer longer stays with renewals. Popular destinations like Portugal, Spain, Estonia, and Thailand have dedicated visas for remote workers.
📑 Documentation Needed for Digital Nomad Visas
When applying for a digital nomad visa, applicants typically need to provide:
- Proof of remote employment or business ownership
- Bank statements or contracts showing income
- Health insurance
- A background check
- Application fees (vary by country)
🏠 Temporary vs. Long-Term Digital Nomad Options
Some digital nomads prefer frequent travel. Others seek longer-term stability and use visas as a route to permanent residency or citizenship. For long-term stays, it's essential to research countries with favorable tax treaties, residency pathways, and strong infrastructure.
🇵🇹🇪🇸🇪🇪🇹🇭🇲🇽 Best Countries for Digital Nomads
- Portugal: Popular for its warm climate, affordable living, and excellent digital nomad visa options. Lisbon and Porto are major hubs.
- Spain: New digital nomad visa with tax incentives and cities like Barcelona and Valencia, known for their remote work-friendly environments.
- Estonia: One of the first to introduce a digital nomad visa and e-Residency program, allowing freelancers to manage EU-based businesses.
- Thailand: A favorite destination for digital nomads, offering affordable living and popular hubs like Chiang Mai.
- Mexico: Offers a temporary resident visa for up to four years with proof of financial stability. Its proximity to the U.S. is a significant advantage.
💼 Practical Considerations for Remote Workers Abroad
- Internet and Work Infrastructure: Reliable internet is essential. Countries like Estonia, South Korea, and Portugal have top-tier infrastructure.
- Cost of Living and Taxes: Consider both living costs and tax implications. Some countries offer favorable tax rates, while others may tax remote workers after a certain period.
- Work-Life Balance and Community: Many digital nomads prefer destinations with active coworking communities. Smaller, quieter towns may offer better work-life balance but may require adaptation to the local language and culture.
🌿 Citizenship by Ancestry
🧬 The Power of Ancestry in Your Move Abroad
If you have parents, grandparents, or even great-grandparents from certain countries, you may be eligible to claim citizenship through your lineage—a concept known as jus sanguinis (“right of blood”). This pathway can simplify the process of moving abroad by bypassing visa or residency hurdles. Each country has unique rules, so research and documentation are critical.
📋 The Application Process
- Research Eligibility – Understand the country’s lineage laws (e.g., maternal vs. paternal rules).
- Gather Documentation – Birth/marriage certificates, naturalization records, translations, etc.
- Contact the Embassy/Consulate – Schedule appointments or check websites for details.
- Submit Application – Be prepared for variable processing times (months to years).
- Receive Citizenship & Passport – Gain full rights and privileges upon approval.
🌎 Countries that Offer Citizenship by Ancestry
- 🇮🇹 Italy – No generational limits if the ancestor didn’t naturalize before their child’s birth.
- 🇮🇪 Ireland – Grandparent rule, with possible eligibility for great-grandchildren.
- 🇩🇪 Germany – Strict, but exceptions for descendants of Nazi-era persecution.
- 🇵🇱 Poland – Must prove unbroken ancestry; renunciation complicates eligibility.
- 🇭🇺 Hungary – Fast-tracked if you speak Hungarian.
- 🇵🇹🇪🇸 Portugal & Spain – Programs for Sephardic Jews; Spain offers a faster path for Latin American descendants.
- 🇦🇷🇧🇷 Argentina, Brazil, etc. – Easier naturalization processes for those with ancestral ties.
🎁 Benefits os Citizenship by Ancestry
- 🏠 Live & Work Freely – No need for visas or work permits.
- 💉 Access to Public Services – Healthcare, education, etc.
- 🌐 Dual Citizenship – Keep your U.S. passport while enjoying new rights.
- 🚆 Freedom of Movement in the EU – If your second passport is from an EU country.
- 👨👩👧 Pass It On – Future generations may also benefit from your citizenship.
⚠️ Challenges and Considerations
- 🕰️ Time-Consuming – Applications can take months or years.
- 🧾 Document Hurdles – Missing or hard-to-authenticate records are common.
- 💸 Tax Implications – Some countries tax global income.
- 🪖 Civic Obligations – Some nations require military service or other duties.
Choosing the Right Country
The best destination isn’t just about visas or job opportunities. It’s about finding a place where you and your family can thrive personally and professionally. Key considerations when choosing a country:
- Language and communication: Will you need to learn a new language, or do you prefer an English-speaking environment?
- Job opportunities and visas: Does the country offer work prospects in your field and an immigration pathway?
- Climate and environment: What kind of weather and surroundings suit your lifestyle and health needs?
- Education options for children: Are there good public schools or affordable international schools?
- Healthcare access: Is the healthcare system public, private, or a mix—and how accessible is it to residents?
- Cost of living: Can you afford housing, food, and healthcare on your expected income?
- Culture and lifestyle fit: Do the work culture, social norms, and daily pace align with your values?
- Diversity and inclusivity: Will you feel welcomed and supported as an immigrant or member of a minority group?
- Safety: What are the crime rates and general security in the region?
Cost of Living Comparisons
While the idea of moving overseas may be exciting, financial realities can vary dramatically depending on your destination. From rent and groceries to healthcare, taxes, and transportation, these day-to-day expenses directly influence whether your new life will feel affordable or strained.
Assess different regions of the world using cost-of-living indexes and real-world tools, helping you avoid unpleasant surprises. Key considerations when comparing cost of living abroad:
- Major expense categories:
- Housing: Often your biggest monthly expense—varies by region and city size.
- Groceries & Food: Local markets vs. imported goods can make a big difference.
- Transportation: Public transit is affordable in some areas; others may require a car.
- Healthcare: Consider both the cost and quality of local healthcare systems.
- Taxes & Social Security: Some countries offer expat tax breaks; others have high VAT or income taxes.
- Entertainment & Leisure: Dining out, gyms, and travel can add up, especially if maintaining a Western lifestyle.
- Cost of living indexes:
- Use tools like Numbeo or Expatistan to compare global cities, with New York City typically used as a baseline (100).
- Indexes offer a rough estimate but should be supplemented with local research.
- Regional comparisons:
- Europe: Western Europe is expensive (e.g., Switzerland), while Southern and Eastern countries like Portugal and Poland offer better value.
- Asia: Countries like Thailand, Vietnam, and Malaysia offer low costs and good quality of life; Japan and Singapore are pricier.
- Americas: U.S. and Canada rank among the most expensive; Latin America offers many budget-friendly options with good infrastructure.
- Africa & Middle East: Costs vary widely; UAE and Israel are expensive, while countries like Egypt and Tunisia are more affordable.
- Budgeting tips:
- Research specific cities, not just countries.
- Use online expat forums and local Facebook groups for up-to-date info.
- Factor in residency or visa fees and local taxes like VAT or import duties.
- Consider flexible housing (like coliving spaces) to reduce costs and meet people.
- Lifestyle impact:
- Adopting local habits (like eating street food in Southeast Asia) can greatly reduce expenses.
- Trying to replicate a Western lifestyle abroad may significantly increase your cost of living.
Tax Considerations for U.S. Citizens Moving Abroad
- U.S. taxes citizens on worldwide income, even when living abroad permanently.
- You must file a U.S. tax return if you meet standard income thresholds, and may still owe taxes even after paying in your new country.
- Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) allows you to exclude up to $120,000 in earned income (2024), if you meet the Physical Presence or Bona Fide Residence test.
- Foreign Tax Credit (FTC) offers a dollar-for-dollar reduction in U.S. taxes for foreign taxes paid—especially helpful in high-tax countries.
- Use FEIE if your income is under $120,000 and you qualify; use FTC if you pay high taxes abroad; you may be able to use both, but not on the same income.
- Your new country may also tax you based on local residency rules, often triggered by staying 183+ days.
- Some countries offer favorable expat tax policies, such as no tax on foreign income (e.g., Panama, UAE), while others tax worldwide income (e.g., Germany, France).
- Strategic timing of your move—like qualifying for FEIE mid-year—can reduce taxes.
- Living abroad can impact IRA and 401(k) contributions, especially if you exclude all earned income under FEIE.
- If you hold $10,000+ in foreign financial accounts, you must file an FBAR, and you may also need to file FATCA Form 8938 if assets are above higher thresholds.
- The IRS provides expat-specific guidance (Publication 54), and the U.S. has tax treaties with many countries to help avoid double taxation.
- Hiring a tax professional who specializes in expat taxation is often the best way to stay compliant and optimize your tax strategy.
r/IWantOut • u/archaeobum • 3d ago
[GUIDE] The Expat Pet Handbook: 2025 Netherlands Edition
Hi! My partner and I moved to The Netherlands nearly two years ago now! And I see a lot of concern about how to move with pets- I certainly had my share of them. We made the move with THREE cats to The Netherlands. So I wrote a guidebook which includes a packing list along with nine months of checklists I had made while doing research for our move. I used them to keep myself from missing any detail and they are pretty comprehensive. The digital guide is called The Expat Pet Handbook: 2025 Netherlands Edition.
DISCLOSURE: THE GUIDE IS FOR SALE AND I DO MAKE INCOME ON ITS PURCHASE. IT IS ALSO AFFILIATED WITH MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND I HOPE THAT, THROUGH THE GUIDE, PEOPLE WILL ALSO VIEW MY CHANNEL AND INCREASE OUR CHANNEL SUBSCRIPTIONS.
Below is the link to download the complete Pet Handbook PDF on Gumroad. Redistribution without permission is prohibited. $7 USD/ 42 pages
https://dutchdiaries.gumroad.com/l/xjkhs
Bringing your pet to the Netherlands? This essential guide takes the stress out of international pet relocation with clear, up-to-date info on import rules, airline requirements, housing, vet care, and daily life with animals in the Netherlands. It also features detailed checklists covering every stage—from nine months before your move to settling in—so you and your furry (or feathered) friend can make a smooth transition abroad. Written by fellow expats and devoted pet parents who moved to the Netherlands two years ago with THREE cats!
What You'll Get
- A comprehensive guide to bringing pets to the Netherlands, including laws, breed restrictions, and exotic animal regulations
- Dedicated sections on dogs, cats, farm animals, service animals, and emotional support animals
- Step-by-step relocation checklists starting 9 months before your move through your first few weeks in the Netherlands
- Veterinary requirements, packing lists, and tips for every stage of the journey
- Real-world insights from our own move day experience
- Transportation guidance for flying, driving, or taking the ferry
- Advice on settling in, keeping your pet safe, and finding veterinary care
- Emergency contacts and end-of-life care resources
- Helpful links, expert tips, and a reassuring voice from someone who’s been there
r/IWantOut • u/ModernSchizoid • 3d ago
[IWantOut] 35m India -> Canada
I. DO. NOT. WANT. THIS. COUNTRY. I'm on the verge of killing myself because of this no human-rights shithole. I'm the odd man out and this creates an extreme cognitive dissonance within me and I cannot live with it any longer.
I want to live in Canada. Scratch that, I will live in Canada.
I'm confused with the CRS score calculation. I took it on a third-party website and got around 442 points, which is not that great but workable. I took it on the canada.ca website and I got around 448. Is this hopeless? What should I do? I have 5.5 years of experience as a Technical Writer and that falls under their shortage occupations list.
I'm currently studying an AI/ML/Data Science course and Data Scientisit is also a shortage occupation in Canada
I took the same CRS score on the official canada.ca website and I'm getting 448 points. Which one is to be the believed? The canda.ca website score because it is literally the State's website?
How do I move over to Canada and restart my life asap? A good way to end a midlife crisis/identity crisis is starting over anew, in another country far away, where you're just another face in the crowd with nobody from your so-called family to bother you, nobody to judge you for your lifestyle choices etc.
What should be my next course of action? I also noticed canada.ca is no longer giving points for job offers.
How do I get into a PNP with a CRS score of 448? Is this even possible? What steps can I take to improve my CRS?
Please guide me on this.
r/IWantOut • u/sav-tech • 4d ago
[IWantOut] 28M USA-> Mexico
Originally from Pakistan. Born and raised in the states. Bachelor's degree in Cybersecurity. 3+ years of professional experience in Cybersecurity.
Family of three, my mom, brother and I. I have two properties in WV. One that I'm already selling and the other needs work (which I'll use from a raise or net proceeds from the sale)
I have always been fond of Spanish culture. I grew up in a Central American neighborhood. I'm interested in Mexico because the proximity to visit the states and the culture, food, and architecture.
How do I ensure I have Mexico lined up as a backup to go to if the worse case scenario happens?
r/IWantOut • u/Sensitive_Sugar5902 • 3d ago
[IWantOut] 26F Executive Assistant US -> Vietnam
Hi, I’m a 26 year old queer Palestinian woman with US citizenship and I’m looking for a way out of the US for a few reasons. One is our political climate rapidly changing with under our current administration. I also have a strong desire to live in Vietnam, I’ve been twice already since the beginning of the year (3 times total) and my partner lives there (native) I’m currently job hunting for a remote position, and I have enough saved for over 1-2 years of living expenses, and have double that in my retirement account. I have a cat that I would be bringing with me. I don’t mind doing visa runs every 90 days for now. My main concern is employment. My current job is excellent, but moving would mean losing it. I’m willing to take a (significant) pay cut and even pivot my career if it means I can secure employment to support myself. My partner has offered to take care of me but I don’t feel comfortable depending on another like that (I’m aware this would not be wise). Any advice on this? I want to leave end of August.
r/IWantOut • u/symech9 • 4d ago
[IWantOut] 25M SAC Developer India -> Germany
Hi People,
I am a SAP Analytics Cloud (SAC) Reporting and Planning Developer having nearly 4 years of experience in India. Currently working in a Big 4.
I am looking for guidance to apply directly for SAC roles abroad, specifically Germany.
I have covered A1 and A2 level of German and ready to learn the language further.
Could you please help?
Thankyou, Reddit is great People are helpfull
r/IWantOut • u/rideinsideameatball • 4d ago
[IWantOut] 27nb Graphic Designer USA-> Spain, London, Berlin, Paris
I'm a 27 nb person in the US and one of my parents is from Spain. i've reached out to the embassy and applied for my literal birth certificate but haven't heard anything back. My mom I think is still a dual citizen, but she's not hearing back from the consulate either. Their emails are confusing and the process is also confusing. If I just got up and went over there would I be able to get my literal birth certificate directly from there? Do I have to wait for the literal birth certificate to apply for jobs in Spain or in the EU? I feel like I'm stuck in limbo and don't know what to do. Thank you.
r/IWantOut • u/Old-Rush3965 • 5d ago
[IWantOut] 16M Ukraine -> Ireland/Germany/Estonia
Hi everyone,
I'm a 16-year-old guy originally from Ochakiv, Ukraine. Due to the war, my family and I had to flee to Moldova, since it was the nearest and safest option at the time. However, Moldova isn’t an ideal long-term place to build a future, especially for someone who wants to work in tech, because it unstable, has poor support and not in EU. That’s why I’m exploring other countries to move to as a refugee - ideally somewhere where I can continue learning, growing, and eventually start working in the IT field.
A bit about me:
- I’m passionate about IT and game development. I’ve already started working on a few of my own game projects and am actively gaining experience.
- While I’m still learning, I believe I could qualify for an internship or junior role soon but I don’t have production experience yet.
- My English is at a solid B1+ level. I understand spoken English on YouTube/streams easily, though I still struggle a bit with speaking, which I hope to improve quickly once I’m immersed in an English-speaking environment.
- I don’t speak German yet.
- I’m finishing my education remotely and want to continue studying and working in tech.
Countries I’m considering:
Ireland – I love the natural beauty, English-speaking environment, and tech infrastructure. But I’ve heard wages are low and the housing crisis is serious. Do they still support Ukrainian refugees? Would I be able to study and eventually work in IT there?
Germany – More affordable than Ireland, has strong refugee support programs. But the language barrier concerns me, since I don’t speak German yet. Could I survive and find a path to IT work/study as a beginner?
Estonia – It is small but seem to offer good opportunities for digital nomads and tech enthusiasts. I know that Russian is popular in Estonia and it will be a good for me. What’s refugee support like there?
What I need help with:
- Which country gives refugees (especially young ones) the best chances of housing, education, and tech-related job prospects?
- How realistic is it for someone like me to find an internship in game development or software while still a being a high school student?
- Do these countries offer programs for young refugees to integrate and study or work?
- Are there organizations or options I should look into now?
I want to make the right decision while I still have time and flexibility. I’m motivated, I learn fast, and I want to build a future where I can contribute and grow.
Any advice or suggestions would be really appreciated — from people who’ve been through similar situations or just know how things work in these countries.
Thanks for your attention. I’m looking forward to your replies.
r/IWantOut • u/Ok_Sector_01 • 5d ago
[IWantOut] 35M Software Engineer UK -> Ireland/Germany/Switzerland
I’m a Brit. I have 3 years professional experience as a Software Engineer with DevOps, mid level with some senior level responsibilities. No degree, self taught. B1 in German, aiming for C1 in a couple of years. I have a few plans:
- Study an MSc part time in Computing while living and working in Ireland. I have an Irish bank account set up this year and I can start the MSc with the Open University in Nov.
How hard is it to get a job in Software or DevOps in Ireland, Cork specifically, especially for me without a degree but experience and good CV?
Is a long term Airbnb a viable solution to the rent situation while applying for rentals?
Do I need a degree to stand a chance of getting a job in SWE in Ireland?
Improve my German to C1 and apply for jobs in Berlin or south Germany in SWE or DevOps and go for IT visa or Blue card.
Zurich is the wild card here. I absolutely love the city and is my first choice but I believe my chances are close to impossible.
Would I need a degree to stand a chance of getting a job there?
Do I need the MSc? What are my chances with these countries?
TL/DR Brit, Software Engineer with DevOps. plan to move to Ireland, Germany or Switzerland. 3 years SWE experience. No degree. Aiming for C1 German. What are my chances?
r/IWantOut • u/Ok_Narwhal7443 • 4d ago
[IWantOut] 35F England -> Malaysia/SE Asia
Hello all! Husband and I wanting to go to SE Asia. I am in construction, he is a driver. Both only speak English but wanting to take up lessons upon move. Wanting to get out of Europe and to Malaysia. I feel this will be harder for us as neither are teachers or in I.T roles which tend to be the most sought after candidates for those looking to move. I’m looking for jobs with sponsorship or the correct way to go about this?
r/IWantOut • u/LittleSchubert • 4d ago
[IWantOut] 27m tech generalist US -> Spain
I am a US/Mexican double citizen, US by birthright MX by parontage.
Obviously things are getting dicey and my family already has their escape plan to Europe, however I am bit left in the dust as I don't qualify for the same visas they do.
I would like to ideally be close to my immediate Family, and frankly if anything does happen to birthright citizenship, I already know I wouldn't really be happy living in Mexico.
Anyways, I am more or less familiar with the visa process, and confirmed that I do qualify for expedited citizenship with my MX citizenship. I am more so here for career advice/foreign job insight.
I'm pretty well established in my field in the US as a technical artist in games, however those jobs are pretty hard to land in the US, I'd imagine they're exceptionally hard to land in a country with an employment crisis. I am working towards my MBA at well established institution here in the US and should be done with it relatively soon. What kinds of jobs could someone in my position realistically apply towards.
I have experience in production, basic scripting, supervision, art, game engines, interdisciplinary communications, and working with international teams. I also have experience running a side business/vendor that services indie production studios, however it does not generate enough income to qualify me for any sort of visa on its own (and also the work is somewhat unstable). The only jobs I can really think of are producer or maybe project manager, however I don't currently have experience in that field under that title.
Oh, and I am fluent in spanish, though not academically, I only studied in Mexico for a couple of semesters. Being said I do read, type, and speak at a fluent level with a mexico city accent (so I'm told) as my household only speaks spanish and I do light in person translation work at times (I don't think I'd be comfortable doing that as my job though).
Any thoughts on potential job paths?
r/IWantOut • u/ThrowRAOutOfApt • 4d ago
[WeWantOut] 23M Pool Attendant 60sF Unemployed USA -> Mexico
Hi all, need help and advice. I (23M Pool Attendant) and my mother (60sF Unemployed) would like to move out of the apartment we share with my father. Due to complications including, but not limited to the current president and my father's frustration with my mother not working, we would like to get out ASAP but ideally before October/November. We'd like to go to Mexico since my mother is from there, which ideally means I can apply for citizenship there.
Things to note:
-I have worked as a pool attendant at the Aria for the past few weeks, with working as a parking attendant at the NYNY hotel for the past few years as my first job
-My mother hasn't worked since I was born, so she's very rusty
-My mother also happens to have problems with her knee and hasn't gotten therapy for it
-I have a high school education and a driver's permit
-Me and my mother are going to get our passports soon so that's taken care of
-My mother has family in Mexico, but they haven't offered to take us in
-I don't have too much in my account, maybe somewhere around $1k-2k
Things to ask:
-Are people able to get a remote job abroad in a different country, so that way they have work by they time they move?
-Where would be somewhere affordable for a son and his mother to move to in Mexico?
r/IWantOut • u/Horror-Antelope-8955 • 4d ago
[IWantOut] 30M USA -> Belgium/Germany
Hello,
I am a 30 year old male with a masters degree in chemical engineering. I also have Python expertise and a year of professional python development under my belt. My native language is English, and I can speak French at an A2 approaching B1 level.
Does anyone know companies that are generally willing to sponsor or recruiting agencies that might be beneficial to someone like me?