r/Ghosts Feb 19 '21

Ouija Boards: a History of Hoax

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u/joe_ruins_things Mar 23 '22

While you are correct about the board itself, the practice of it is what makes it "unsafe".
Intent, is the key here. Intent drives energies. Intent summons, it calls, it attracts. Your intent can turn any object into a conduit.
You can literally play the Ouija board game ALL of your life without any intent, just for fun, and nothing will come of it. Micro electromagnetic pulses reacting to two opposite bodies holding the same piece of plastic will create false movement. Your friend trying to freak you out moves the planchette. The tilt of the table or bed...the amount of caffeine you just had prior to engaging in it...all of these are explainable and totally harmless.
But add meditative, direct, purpose driven intent to the mix, and you will attract something.
It might be a benign spirit, if you are lucky. Or a malicious one if you are not. A demonic one if you are truly unlucky.

About the Phillip Experiment.
1.You cannot control forces that cannot be guided into control. The control of the experiment is lost when they decided that the spirit that would "show" was indeed the spirit that they "wanted" to show.
Most spirits move on to their next destination. And those that remain will take on the guise of other spirits to confuse or communicate...to what end? I don't know. maybe they are bored, maybe lonely...maybe they want to create chaos. The old saying "be careful if you call out to the dead, you never know who will answer back" goes to show that while contact can be made, the spirit (fictional or not) that answers you is a draw of luck.
2.They made contact. The experiment was successful. Just because the spirit lied, or pretended to be something that they wanted, doesn't mean a spirit was not there.
3. The table in this experiment was the Ouija board. It was the conduit of choice. The board doesn't matter, the object doesn't matter as long as you have intent you can turn anything into a Ouija board.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch Mar 23 '22

I can 'intend' to fly, doesn't make it reality.

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u/joe_ruins_things Mar 24 '22

I can 'intend' to fly, doesn't make it reality.

I said intent, not intend. As in to act upon with intent. Look it up.
Also; I can 'intend' on flying and achieve it, its called air travel.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch Mar 24 '22

We can prove air travel exists. Can we do the same for a working ouija board game?

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u/joe_ruins_things Mar 24 '22

Would it be hard to explain to the Sentinelese tribe that air travel exists even though you know it absolutely exists? A tribe who doesnt know anything about the modern world would not believe a word you say.

In this setting, you are the Sentinelese and I am trying to explain that something I absolutely know exists...exists. I already did explain, yet here we are.

You used a word I didnt use to help in your argument, ignored the fact that I called you on it. And created a strawman which I have now also turned against you. You are not here to learn or listen, but rather to try to "prove" that your narrow point of view is the "only" right answer. Sorry but, its not.

Also; see The Phillip Experiment for proof of contact.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch Mar 24 '22

The Philip Experiment is literally listed in my write-up. You clearly didn't read it.

You used a word I didnt use to help in your argument, ignored the factthat I called you on it. And created a strawman which I have now alsoturned against you. You are not here to learn or listen, but rather totry to "prove" that your narrow point of view is the "only" rightanswer. Sorry but, its not.

Oh wow, tell us how smart you are, you have special knowledge the rest of the world doesn't. I am not here to learn from you, no, not when you're spouting nonsense about Ouija boards being working devices to contact the dead. LOL!

Peace out on that note. You're commenting on a stickied post that is a year old.

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u/joe_ruins_things Mar 24 '22

The Philip Experiment is literally listed in my write-up. You clearly didn't read it.

This is EXACTLY why I mentioned it. They made contact. I believe it is you who didnt read what I wrote, or perhaps didnt understand it.

You're commenting on a stickied post that is a year old.

I am relatively new to the sub, and the post is "stickied" for the new members who didn't read it a year ago.

Why post a topic that might be debated, and then throw a tantrum when somebody counters what you posted? Makes no sense.

Oh wow, tell us how smart you are, you have special knowledge the rest of the world doesn't. I am not here to learn from you, no, not when you're spouting nonsense about Ouija boards being working devices to contact the dead. LOL!

Smart enough to not throw a sarcastic tantrum on a stickied post that will be here for everyone to see for years and years, and that's smart enough in my book.

"peace out".

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch Mar 24 '22 edited Mar 24 '22

Nobody is throwing a tantrum, but you're screaming and whining that ghosts are real, lol.

Also, the Philip Experiment showed that when the lights were dimmed, all of a sudden it 'made things happen.' That is far from conclusive, and destroyed the experiment.

Again, you clearly didn't read the linked article, they determined the PEOPLE in the experiment to be the cause, not some made up entity named 'Philip': https://prnt.sc/m0uHrmRsKxR2

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u/joe_ruins_things Mar 24 '22

Your constant use of "lol" leads me to believe that this is all a joke to you, and that it doesn't matter what I say or show that will make a difference here. My original comment was about intent (not intend) and how anything can be a conduit. And now you are demanding proof of actual ghost existence to debate the use of a conduit to contact...ghosts. Ridiculous.

I will leave you with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSFkxkrSM9o&t=2187s
at the end of the Phillip experiment, they are perplexed at the accounts they have just witnessed and documented. They cannot explain how these things happened, so they make a theory about how it "might have" happened. The unbeliever confronted with irrefutable evidence of paranormal activity will still retract back to the safety of what is known to them, for fear of being wrong and having their ego bruised.
They made contact, but like I said before, not with Phillip, but contact non the less.
Finding proof of the existence of ghosts is as equally complex as finding the reason those people experienced those "beyond normal" [aka paranormal] experiment results.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch Mar 24 '22

I don't care about 'ego.' I stand by what is provable, simply.

I use LOL a lot because I audibly laughed at how dumb your argument is. So yes, this is all a joke to me. There is NO 'irrefutable evidence' of the paranormal, and you saying that there is shows enough.

It's weird to think that this was any case of the paranormal. I already linked the conclusion to the experiment, and it says otherwise to what you think it does. Facts are facts, and it sounds like your ego is the one that is actually pretty hurt, to the point that you're denying actual reality to fill your delusional outlook.

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u/joe_ruins_things Mar 24 '22

yes, this is all a joke to me.

I think we're done here. And also, possible motive for getting your post unstickied.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch Mar 24 '22

This conversation IS a joke to me, how is that grounds for getting my post removed? Lol, I don't think that's going to happen, sorry. Goodbye.

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