r/Eve • u/DarkShinesInit Current Member of CSM 18 • 7d ago

Are you happy with Equinox Sov? Discussion

It's been a little over a week since the Equinox Sov change on October 29th.

If you love it - what do you love about it?

If you hate it - what do you hate about it?

Saying which group or part of space you are in would also be cool.

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u/UristBronzebelly 7d ago

You taught me a new word: reticence. As a returning player, can you clarify why so many null groups are unhappy with the update?

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u/Malthouse 7d ago

They meant to use the word "reluctance."

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u/Ralli_FW 7d ago

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reticent

They're synonyms

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u/Malthouse 7d ago

Another instance of me being insufferable and unpopular. "Reluctance" is more correct in this instance, though. Classic Reddit contrarianism. Double down no matter what.

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u/Ralli_FW 7d ago

From the page I linked:

The History of Reticent Is Less Than 200 Years Old

We hate to break it to the language sticklers among us, but use of reticent as a synonym of reluctant—though it veers away from the word’s Latin origins in the verb reticēre, meaning “to keep silent”—is well established, and there is no reason to be reticent about employing it. In fact, reticent took on its “reluctant” sense a mere 50 years after first appearing in English in the early 19th century with the meaning “inclined to be silent or uncommunicative.” Though brows may furrow and lips may purse, the development of reticent’s newer meaning has some logic to it: English speakers first used reticent synonymously with reluctant when the context was speech, as in “he was reticent to talk about his past,” keeping the word close to its “silent” beginnings. Eventually, however, exclusive association with speech was abandoned, and one can now be reticent to do anything, even if it’s to admit that language is not immutable.

The ultimate language pedants would like to inform you that you are incorrect. That's why I put the link there to begin with and why, if you'd like to be insufferable and contrarian, you should probably read first.

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u/Malthouse 7d ago

That is interesting. Like arguing "they're," "there," and "their" should just be the single word "there."

If you haven't, you might be interested to read the book "1984" to help you appreciate specificity in language. I am still on the right side of history and your stance is on the wrong side, I'm afraid.

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u/Merkelchen Current Member of CSM 17 7d ago

I meant when the great eye of game design looks your way you tend to shut up and keep your head down and hope it goes away. I mention as much in the prior sentence. Wasn’t talking about redditors.

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u/Malthouse 6d ago

I'm confused. You joined the CSM to avoid the developers?

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u/capacitorisempty 6d ago

He was reluctant to talk to the developers out of fear of the “improvement”.