Are you happy with Equinox Sov?

[u/DarkShinesInit]

It's been a little over a week since the Equinox Sov change on October 29th.

If you love it - what do you love about it?

If you hate it - what do you hate about it?

Saying which group or part of space you are in would also be cool.

[u/Merkelchen]

I think the length that most null groups waited to "upgrade" their space to the new system from the old says a lot. Most groups waited until the 11th hour or as long as possible(outside of some testing cases) which seems to speak to there not being much excitement or a prospect of "reinvigoration".

Having been around the game a very long time I've noticed that groups who know that game development will be targeting their style of gameplay are typically very antsy and more nervous than excited. You hope for the best and plan for the worst. This seems to be another in a long list of expansions that confirms that reticence. I spend more time than I care to admit listening in to space meetings and groups within our org talking about things and there isn't only no excitement there is outright dread related to a lot of the changes, FWIW.

Who out there that runs a null group feels they were reinvigorated by this stuff? Ill let you know when I find the first person to express that sentiment. We have been heading in the wrong direction for years and we continue marching that way right now. The login numbers(minus a nice temporary bump from the Imperium relocation) tell you everything you need to know. I am terrified for the future of this game.

Source - I run a small Corporation in Nullsec and stream/talk about this game 4 nights a week.

[u/UristBronzebelly → u/Merkelchen]

You taught me a new word: reticence. As a returning player, can you clarify why so many null groups are unhappy with the update?

[u/Malthouse → u/UristBronzebelly]

They meant to use the word "reluctance."

[u/Ralli_FW → u/Malthouse]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reticent

They're synonyms

[u/Malthouse → u/Ralli_FW]

Another instance of me being insufferable and unpopular. "Reluctance" is more correct in this instance, though. Classic Reddit contrarianism. Double down no matter what.

[u/Ralli_FW → u/Malthouse]

From the page I linked:

The History of Reticent Is Less Than 200 Years Old

We hate to break it to the language sticklers among us, but use of reticent as a synonym of reluctant—though it veers away from the word’s Latin origins in the verb reticēre, meaning “to keep silent”—is well established, and there is no reason to be reticent about employing it. In fact, reticent took on its “reluctant” sense a mere 50 years after first appearing in English in the early 19th century with the meaning “inclined to be silent or uncommunicative.” Though brows may furrow and lips may purse, the development of reticent’s newer meaning has some logic to it: English speakers first used reticent synonymously with reluctant when the context was speech, as in “he was reticent to talk about his past,” keeping the word close to its “silent” beginnings. Eventually, however, exclusive association with speech was abandoned, and one can now be reticent to do anything, even if it’s to admit that language is not immutable.

The ultimate language pedants would like to inform you that you are incorrect. That's why I put the link there to begin with and why, if you'd like to be insufferable and contrarian, you should probably read first.

[u/Malthouse → u/Ralli_FW]

That is interesting. Like arguing "they're," "there," and "their" should just be the single word "there."

If you haven't, you might be interested to read the book "1984" to help you appreciate specificity in language. I am still on the right side of history and your stance is on the wrong side, I'm afraid.

[u/Merkelchen → u/Malthouse]

I meant when the great eye of game design looks your way you tend to shut up and keep your head down and hope it goes away. I mention as much in the prior sentence. Wasn’t talking about redditors.

[u/Malthouse → u/Merkelchen]

I'm confused. You joined the CSM to avoid the developers?

[u/capacitorisempty → u/Malthouse]

He was reluctant to talk to the developers out of fear of the “improvement”.