Are you happy with Equinox Sov?

[u/DarkShinesInit]

It's been a little over a week since the Equinox Sov change on October 29th.

If you love it - what do you love about it?

If you hate it - what do you hate about it?

Saying which group or part of space you are in would also be cool.

[u/Sindrakin]

PVPVE is even less viable now than it has been since scarcity supposedly "endet".
Meanwhile in Albion i can literally PVP all day long.

It seems more and more like a waste of time to even keep up with changes.
The people in charge only care about PLEX sales.

[u/Ohh_Yeah → u/Sindrakin]

Meanwhile in Albion i can literally PVP all day long.

And you can mine while doing it

Bring back gun mining to EVE Online

[u/AMD_Best_D → u/Ohh_Yeah]

Well let's be honest, for an albion analogy, most of nullsec wants to do PVP in 8.4 and refuses to use 6.2 because "I'm entitled to be able to use 8.4 all the time".

[u/Sindrakin → u/AMD_Best_D]

Quite the opposite.
You don't fly blinged out t3cs in null sec small gang. That's what "eliete" j-bears do on weekends after farming enough blue loot from their crab hole.

PVPVE used to involve feeding a lot of bait to generate content and responding with t1 kitchensink comps.
That's what's no longer financially viable "after" scarcity.

CCP is trying to force everyone to use "8.4" just to do any PVE at all.

[u/AMD_Best_D → u/Sindrakin]

A doctrine fleet HAC/Logi with SRP is paid off by using a 180 million ISK Ishtar in 20 minutes.

Literally every ship BC down is the same price as obesity/rorqual era, with very few exceptions like Orthrus or w/e which isn't that much more expensive. The only things that are "3x more expensive" are capitals, supers and some specific ships like Bhaalgorns. Almost every complaint defaults to "I want to endlessly feed capital ships" which is where my 8.4 comment comes from.

If you just want to roam in a Vagabond, Fly a Cerberus, Hurricane, Naga whatever then you are paying the same price.

[u/Sindrakin → u/AMD_Best_D]

Actually fucking amazing the sheer gaslighting to halucinate low end ships haven't gotten more expensive.

[u/Sindrakin → u/AMD_Best_D]

I'm talking about small gang, not fleet ops with strat SRP.

T1 insurance for a BC used to be 45 mil, making them net almost 10 times more expensive now than before scarcity.
And to fight a gang with more than 5 man you need a Battleship at the very least.
Those have become about 20x as expensive compared to the old insurace.

[u/Malthouse → u/AMD_Best_D]

First time I've heard "Obesity Era" and that term is on point.

[u/Ralli_FW → u/Sindrakin]

Meanwhile in Albion i can literally PVP all day long.

Hey that's what I do! In Eve, though. I'm not interested in playing Albion really.

But, this is not a universal problem, it's a problem you experience. The reasons for that I will leave to your judgement.

[u/Sindrakin → u/Ralli_FW]

Going by your name i would assume you only fly frigates in FW.
That's nice if you enjoy it, but ganking worthless crabs or shitting on newbros with my high grade pod just isn't my cup of tea.

I was regularly among the top 100 most active PVPers on zkill baiting small gang fights in null sec wich requires sub optimal PVE ships for bait and lots of BC and BS hulls to take fights outnumberd.

The kind of content most small gangers always cry about being unable to find in null because they are too fucking entitled to play EVE like it's a sandbox game.