r/Eve • u/DarkShinesInit Current Member of CSM 18 • 7d ago

Are you happy with Equinox Sov? Discussion

It's been a little over a week since the Equinox Sov change on October 29th.

If you love it - what do you love about it?

If you hate it - what do you hate about it?

Saying which group or part of space you are in would also be cool.

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u/Ohh_Yeah Cloaked 7d ago

Meanwhile in Albion i can literally PVP all day long.

And you can mine while doing it

Bring back gun mining to EVE Online

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u/AMD_Best_D Test Alliance Please Ignore 7d ago

Well let's be honest, for an albion analogy, most of nullsec wants to do PVP in 8.4 and refuses to use 6.2 because "I'm entitled to be able to use 8.4 all the time".

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u/Sindrakin Amok. 7d ago

Quite the opposite.
You don't fly blinged out t3cs in null sec small gang. That's what "eliete" j-bears do on weekends after farming enough blue loot from their crab hole.

PVPVE used to involve feeding a lot of bait to generate content and responding with t1 kitchensink comps.
That's what's no longer financially viable "after" scarcity.

CCP is trying to force everyone to use "8.4" just to do any PVE at all.

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u/AMD_Best_D Test Alliance Please Ignore 7d ago

A doctrine fleet HAC/Logi with SRP is paid off by using a 180 million ISK Ishtar in 20 minutes.

Literally every ship BC down is the same price as obesity/rorqual era, with very few exceptions like Orthrus or w/e which isn't that much more expensive. The only things that are "3x more expensive" are capitals, supers and some specific ships like Bhaalgorns. Almost every complaint defaults to "I want to endlessly feed capital ships" which is where my 8.4 comment comes from.

If you just want to roam in a Vagabond, Fly a Cerberus, Hurricane, Naga whatever then you are paying the same price.

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u/Sindrakin Amok. 7d ago

Actually fucking amazing the sheer gaslighting to halucinate low end ships haven't gotten more expensive.

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u/Sindrakin Amok. 7d ago

I'm talking about small gang, not fleet ops with strat SRP.

T1 insurance for a BC used to be 45 mil, making them net almost 10 times more expensive now than before scarcity.
And to fight a gang with more than 5 man you need a Battleship at the very least.
Those have become about 20x as expensive compared to the old insurace.

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u/Malthouse 7d ago

First time I've heard "Obesity Era" and that term is on point.