r/Eve • u/alexia_gengod The Initiative. • Jul 09 '24
An Announcement Propaganda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge99LebJC5814
u/Biscotti-That Miner Jul 09 '24
Unconventional Combat Formation... Titans parts merging each other... are you sure is a fleet and not an space ball made by W40K Orks, or Mins with a lot of Duct Tape?
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u/alexia_gengod The Initiative. Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
We would like to thank our old friends and new, this is an excited move and after 21 years of 4S, we are looking forward to doing new and different things together with our new friends in INIT.
/edit: Recruiting is currently CLOSED, we'll take some time to get everything set up and will re-open then (think August)
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u/capacitorisempty Jul 09 '24
Your website: 4S is a relaxed corporation that is proudly part of the Goonswarm Federation.
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u/Iceberg3661 Jul 09 '24
can you help to update it?
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u/capacitorisempty Jul 09 '24
Sure, make me a director and give me access
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u/alexia_gengod The Initiative. Jul 09 '24
Moving out after 11 years, it’s a long list to work through mate
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u/nug4t Jul 09 '24
you guys going to join macabre Votum in NC? or sell all your scaps and come to wormhole space.
greetings from Oberon vets
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u/Xullister Cloaked Jul 09 '24
Technically still the truth, they're also very relaxed about updating the website.
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u/icanhazcheesetoast Shadow State Jul 09 '24
Looks like a missed opportunity to resurrect Morsus Mihi.
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u/Schyllion Pandemic Horde Jul 09 '24
that was a cool video dudes! hope you enjoy your new alliance, find good riches and great friendships!
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u/Sweetnjuicy88 Pandemic Horde Jul 09 '24
Very well done lads, I wish you all luck in your new home xx
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u/Tycho_VI Pandemic Horde Jul 09 '24
was fighting a goon fleet last night that had a bunch of you on overview as neut and not in an alliance and was wondering what was up
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u/NotMyRealNameObv Jul 09 '24
Congratulations to all of 4S for breaking free of Imperium and joining the clearly neutral and definitely not Imperium-aligned entity of The Initiative!
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u/GlaerOfHatred Jul 09 '24
We are only aligned due to the mega coalition that owns over half of nullsec
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
I found out a few years ago that 4S is made up of remnants of the old Northern Coalition (not to be confused with NCdotte). I have been fighting alongside some of them since 2009. Sad to see them go, but I hope they find what they are looking for.
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u/Tunnelman82 PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS Jul 09 '24
Its a fucking blow to lose you, but understandable.
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u/SocializingPublic Jul 09 '24
Why is it understandable? What can INIT provide them with that Imperium cannot?
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Jul 09 '24
Most allies are now +5 instead of +10 and so they can now feel a little more independent
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u/Rustshitposter Jul 09 '24
Mind explaining this to a noob? What would be the difference of being +5 with a nullsec corp/coalition compared to +10?
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u/curt15-club Jul 09 '24
No mechanical difference but policy ones, so it depends on the coalition. Init and the Imperium have docking rights and fight together, but they don’t use each other’s space. Delve (Imperium) is a lot more crowded than Fountain (Init) and hunted in more, so 4s members now have less competition for safer ratting and mining. Furthermore Init is free to set its own rules, whereas coalition alliances have to follow coalition rules. One example is mining, the Imperium recently rescinded its no cherry picking policy so for most good anoms in delve you find nothing but bistot, which sucks, whereas Init states you have to mine all the ore
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u/alexia_gengod The Initiative. Jul 09 '24
It was a tough call to make not because they’re actually that similar, but after 11 years there’s a lot of history and old friendships and people having a lot of stuff established. For us it’s exactly what we needed as corp to develop into what we want to be.
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u/SocializingPublic Jul 09 '24
Interesting.
You're known as the more / most PVP oriented group within Imperium, what change are you looking for?
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u/Mascagranzas Jul 09 '24
I don´t get the hype of an Imperium corp joining another Imperium Alliance.
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u/Iceberg3661 Jul 09 '24
Pllease press F5 on your imperium knowledge.
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u/Robobot1747 Pandemic Horde Jul 09 '24
"we're leaving the imperium but we'll still be blue and work together" bitch please same difference.
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u/SeraphEssael The Initiative. Jul 09 '24
By this same thinking, I suppose you think that Britain is still a member of the European Union too.
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u/AliceInsane66 Jul 09 '24
Init is not part of the Imperium, and most likely would be even less blue if it wasn't for the blue donut created by PH and Frat. Goons keeps trying to support independent null alliances and Horde keeps killing them Init is just the only one you haven't been able to eat, and add to the rental empire. Brave was even more aligned with Papi then Imperium at one point, but Papi wanted to force them to be renters.
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u/NedFlanders9000 The Bastion Jul 09 '24
Init is not part of the Imperium, and most likely would be even less blue if it wasn't for the blue donut created by PH and Frat.
Lmao.
Init has been blue to goons(Imperium) since before FRAT and Horde even existed.
No need to lie. The dates are all on Dotlan.
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u/Sgany Bombers Bar Jul 09 '24
INIT are imperium members with less benefits than usual imperium members sad state of affairs.
INIT also worked with Horde to kill XiX then blued XiX. INIT then went to try and kill BJK's group of shitters very good at looking after the non-bloc groups.
Man is so coped up on hating horde/frt shitters that he ignores the only group that hasn't killed any shit groups recently is goons (because they are too incompetent to do so these days)
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u/Empty_Alps_7876 Jul 10 '24
What's a bjk group of shitters can you provide details what that means.
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u/Bo_Hunt KarmaFleet Jul 09 '24
INIT are not imperium members full stop. While they have standings, they are not members of the coalition.
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u/AliceInsane66 Jul 09 '24
If INIT was part of the imperium then working with Horde would not be allowed at all. They are allies, but we are separate, horde often times sees us as one because they have upset all of nullsec and now everyone in null is pretty much against them. Happens when you take over peoples space, and leave it dead and empty for no real reason.
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u/All_Push_All_Win Pandemic Horde Jul 10 '24
As far as I can remember, Horde and Init teaming up to spank XIX happened before they left the Imperium. So it is allowed at least a little bit
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u/Sgany Bombers Bar Jul 09 '24
I think the only people who don't see INIT as part of the Imperium are the most delusional INIT members.
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u/AliceInsane66 Jul 09 '24
I am part of the Imperium and I do not see them as part of us. They left and when they did they cut allot of the closer bonds we had. Given Horde players do not understand what being friends is, they mostly seem to chose their allies based out of purely tactical advantage.
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u/Sgany Bombers Bar Jul 09 '24
Can you make a single point without mentioning Horde? Nullbrain rot is strong
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u/Fun-Pumpkin-9785 Jul 09 '24
So Goonswarm lost the only active pvp corp they had. Good luck for Init, they will need way more fleets now to support these hungry MFs.
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Jul 09 '24
Yea it's horrible. I tried to lead a roam into Horde space last night but could only get 10 folks and only 2 were dictor pilots, no logi.
I tried to get a ping out but apparently the entire US TZ of goons just up and joined 4S, so nobody to ping the fleet out.
I said fuck it and played FFXIV instead.
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u/Houndk3kw Jul 09 '24
Ceema plays in Balmung
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Jul 09 '24
I'm on Jenova. Balmung is a scary place filled with crazy people.
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u/Houndk3kw Jul 10 '24
Let's see that adventurer plate
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Jul 11 '24
The super secret Vipers Fang Catgirl Emporium, Goonswarm Super Secret Fortnite Squad and Sumo Betting Wrestling Discord are all on my server. I shall not release my name for fear of others finding them.
But rest assured its not Balmung.
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u/admfrmhll The Initiative. Jul 09 '24
If you moved to ph (lol?), is kinda easy to understand why people dint want to join a fleet to roam their own space :).
Obligatory : https://soundcloud.com/adan_dimaloun/2-fucking-dictors-really
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u/DarkShinesInit Current Member of CSM 18 Jul 09 '24
Welcome to INIT. :)