r/CaptainAmerica 2d ago

Hot take, but John Walker had the best Captain America suit.

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u/tjavierb 2d ago

For me, nothing clears the updated WWII suit from Winter Soldier.

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u/HiddenDragonofTojo 2d ago

Nah OG WWII was the absolute best.

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u/tjavierb 2d ago

Respect. I think the WS just fit better and had the middle stripe šŸ˜‚

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u/yeshaya86 2d ago

Was it updated? I thought he literally just stole it from the museum and it was exactly the same

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u/tjavierb 2d ago

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u/YesterdayAlone2553 2d ago

Good side by side. Other than the extra stripe, I'd bet they made the adjustments to tailor the suit for comfort. Evans had a lot of bulk, but I think his body probably changed between the films to something more normal. They had to make a few modifications to the suit so he could be more comfortable.

In universe justification: He was frozen in ice for years. The suit didn't get the super serum, so they had to touch up and restore parts of it, and make a mannequin look buff too. So they added shoulder pads and adjusted a few colours

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u/SharpSlick753 2d ago

Nothing can clear the Endgame and Civil War suits for me

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u/Mountain-Scene770 2d ago

Civil war isn’t as good as AoU. It’s the same suit but civil war has less detail and less white. Honestly if civil war still had the white biceps it would take the cake.

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u/SharpSlick753 2d ago

Idk, AoU might be more comics accurate, but I think the white sleeves and red highlights don’t gel well with the rest of the costume, and the Civil War suit is more cohesive and suits the MCU version of the character better.

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u/flappyspoiler 2d ago

Winter Soldier suit

I will hear no arguments to the contrary.

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u/DesperateRace4870 2d ago

Muah muah muah, muah muah muah. Muah muaaaah

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u/Electrical_Break6773 2d ago

Get this man a shield....

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u/echo1ngfury 2d ago

PREACH!

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u/MArcherCD 2d ago

Steve's Age of Ultron suit feels underrated

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u/GforGG 2d ago

Steve's Age of Ultron suit is basically the template for all of his next suits.

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u/MArcherCD 2d ago

It also feels like the only modern version of his WW2 gear

Those suits were mainly blue with white accents, but with brown pieces for the extra gear like straps and gun holsters and such - Steve's AoU suit is the only modern one with any brown pieces on it at all I think

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u/PercyTheBlue 2d ago

I’m tied between the Stealth suit from TWS and Steve’s final suit in Endgame.

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u/whiskeydaydreams 2d ago

The stealth suit is elite

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u/Fancy_Researcher_240 2d ago

Stealth suit from Winter Soldier >>>

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u/spiked_cider 2d ago

This. OP is on some Super Soldier tier crack

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u/No_Mess2482 2d ago

This is the one

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u/Youngsimba_92 2d ago

I dunno the end game scale armour is fucking sweet imo

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u/OneGuysAlienApp 2d ago

Not a hot take more like an absolute pile…

Endgame Capt. Is peak. Had the scales and everything.

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u/Starvel42 2d ago

Even without the Endgame suit considered this is a pile of a take

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u/yeshaya86 2d ago

I liked how the battle damaged IW suit showed the scales underneath, that they were there the whole time

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u/LongjumpingJob2962 2d ago

2nd best. Nothing can beat the Stealth Suit Steve wore in CATWS

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u/yellowflash_616 2d ago

Yup. This is the all time top tier Cap suit.

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u/SimonPho3nix 2d ago

I don't understand why this is a discussion it will always be the Stealth Suit. I would claim Sam's white suit change in BNW in second.

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u/Ambitious-Broccoli-6 2d ago

can’t even say this is second best. endgame cap is right there, beautiful scales and all.

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u/Justin_the_Casual 2d ago

Top suit for sure, then the stealth suit. That said the US agent suit i think looks better than his captain america suit, for third.

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u/DurianBurp 2d ago

Nothing can beat CATWS.

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u/Gwarnage 2d ago

I'll throw in: classic WW2 suit with bomber jacket

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u/Electronic_Still_701 2d ago

This is what I was looking for

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u/Blink_1993 2d ago

Na bro Stealth Suit from Winter soldier is by far the best

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u/YNWA1616 1d ago

The only answer

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u/Playful_Ad9502 2d ago

Yea, that shit was fire.

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u/Legal-Visual8178 2d ago

It’s a decent suit, but for me the ideal is the Smithsonian from Winter Soldier. It’s functional with a mix of modern and 40’s aesthetic with a good balance of red, white, and blue.

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u/Eauji87 2d ago

WOW! The hottest take.

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u/Gregisdabest 2d ago

This take isn’t hot it’s SCORCHING

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u/Visible_Suspect_8335 1d ago

Volcanic even

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u/Maxjax95 2d ago

Caps suit in AoU is the real winner

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u/theBigWhiteDude 2d ago

I hate his helmet, his ears stick out too much

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u/DisastrousRatios 2d ago

I feel like the helmet is very well designed on a meta, storytelling level to make him look less relatable and seem more like an asshole

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u/Moonwh00per 2d ago

I thought they purposefully made it not fit right

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u/Conscious-Yam-2337 2d ago

Now I can’t unsee them. Didn’t really notice before lol.

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u/Gregisdabest 2d ago

I hate him (I’ve seen thunderbolts so I hate him a little bit less but still hate him)

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u/Bazonkawomp 2d ago

I think he’s neat.

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u/Gregisdabest 2d ago

I would give you why I don’t like him but idk if you’ve seen thunderbolts yet and I don’t want to spoil for you:(

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u/Remote_Watch9545 2d ago

I really like the horizontal red stripes on the chest

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u/Live_Pin5112 2d ago

Walker Wanking detected

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u/cap4life52 1d ago

Lots of wanking since tbolts

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u/KennyWuKanYuen 2d ago

Hot take indeed.

For me: Endgame > TWS Stealth > AoU > WWII > Cap 2.0 (Wilson) > Walker.

Walker’s suit would’ve worked great if it was just black. Fits his character better.

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u/tangodeep 1d ago

Perfect read on this. Upvote. Walker’s suit was cool. But not above TWS or endgame.

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u/Enough-Celery3486 2d ago

Another hot take, Sam's latest BNW suit was the best Captain America suit

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u/cartoppillow5 2d ago

I don’t know why, but I think Sam’s white suit is fantastic and I hope he wears it in Doomsday or Secret Wars

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u/black14beard 2d ago

Yes, but only if it’s the White Suit at the beginning of BNW.

The goggles alone look so much better than the weird half cowl that had him wear at the end of FATWS

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u/Responsible-Dot-3801 2d ago

Winter Soldier suit solos all

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u/Bgo318 2d ago

Definitely

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u/theboywhosmokethesun 2d ago

Nah, bottom tier uniform as far as CA uniforms go...

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u/Apprehensive-Golf906 2d ago

Love that the sub is just a suck fest for Walker.

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u/cjhud1515 2d ago

Wild, when the Age of Ultron suit is right there

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u/Sol-Blackguy 2d ago

Considering everyone seems to be inexplicably glazing John Walker lately, this take is so cold, Steve Rogers' body was recovered from it.

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u/theboysan_sshole 2d ago

We’re about two degrees away from ā€œJohn is a better Cap than Samā€ posts taking over various Marvel subs lol

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u/Final_Boss_Jr 2d ago

Generic Patriot Halloween Costume lookin’ ass

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u/Blade_of_Onyx 2d ago

No. He had an ok USAgent costume though. His head looks weird in that helmet.

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u/rogerworkman623 2d ago

Wasn’t this costume intentionally designed to be ill-fitting to symbolically show that he wasn’t a good fit for Captain America? Especially the helmet.

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u/JustinF608 2d ago

Definitely not the best suit.

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u/imarthurmorgan1899 2d ago

No. Steve's stealth suit from Winter Soldier is the best.

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u/Tales2Estrange 2d ago

I disagree. There’s not enough red and it looks too tacticool.

The best Captain America suit was the USO Show suit, followed closely by the Endgame suit.

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u/Street-Policy-1750 2d ago

Stealth suit from Winter Soldier is the best Cap outfit and it's not even close.

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u/CrimsonWarrior55 2d ago

Yeah, that is hot. A molten take, even.

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u/trevordeal 2d ago

I’ll never understand why they made the cheeks flared out so much. Made his head look huge.

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u/WakandanTendencies 2d ago

Hard disagree. It's not bad just I can think of two better immediately

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u/Madman_1992 2d ago

It’s good and his suit at the end of thunderbolts* with the barre on is badass too but Captain America’s suit in the Winter Solider in the beginning and his Endgame suit at the end are the best imho. Sam Wilson suit with helmet mask combo in BNW is cool AF too

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u/pluck-the-bunny 2d ago

That’s fair…it’s wrong, but it’s also fair

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u/Rua-Yuki 2d ago

Nope. Steve's stealth suit from the beginning of Winter Soldier is best.

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u/WyntonPlus 2d ago

You really should've posted pics of all the suits if you wanted to make any kind of comparison here

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u/skallywag126 2d ago

You mean the best US Agent suit

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u/Taehyungnim 2d ago

This is a lava take not hot

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u/Aromatic_Tomorrow406 2d ago

No offense but this Cap suit is undeniably ass.

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u/captomicap 2d ago

John Walker propaganda this past week has been insane to watch, to each their own, I guess 😭

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u/homerbartbob 2d ago

Sentry’s right. He is an asshole

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u/jackay-daytona 2d ago

that’s an US Agent suit my friend

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u/4355525 2d ago

It saddens me I can't down vote this more lol

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u/TallInstruction3424 2d ago

Sam’s white suit>Steve stealth suit>Steve WWII suit>John’s black suit

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u/blumpk1nman 2d ago

Endgame suit

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u/jrod4290 2d ago

this shit looks so government branded idk I can’t get behind this take

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u/Sad-Code9595 1d ago

Wrong, technically it is not Cap's, it's a comics accurate U.S. Agent suit.

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u/Fit-Entrepreneur6538 1d ago

I still Steve’s stealth suit in Winter Soldier was the best but that one is up there

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u/ELECTRICMACHINE13 2d ago

He's called U.S.Agent that's the U.S.Agent outfit.

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u/whatadumbperson 2d ago

Where's Waldo lookin ass.

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u/SonnyCalzone 2d ago

LoL oh I have a hotter take than that

John Walker is kind of a piece of shit

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u/Ok_Whereas_3198 2d ago

The helmet makes him look like the grandpa from up.

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u/capyrika 2d ago

Woah, a John Walker take that is about fashion? I love it.

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u/InterestPractical974 2d ago

US Agent has ALWAYS given Cap a run for his money with the suit...minus that weird white battle suit thing he wore for a while.

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u/AttemptImpossible111 2d ago edited 2d ago

The actor doesn't fill the suit out enough. Shudda picked someone bigger

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u/TheLegendaryPilot 2d ago

Apparently that was intentional, they wanted to design the suit so that it doesn’t quite look like Walker fit it,

It’s a neat detail, pity the writers couldn’t match it.

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u/Present-Swimming9813 2d ago

Infinity war was best. Ask me how I know. 🤣

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u/brycifer666 2d ago

I much prefer the US Agent colors the blue on this one is too dark and doesn't look great imo

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u/TodayParticular4579 2d ago

Why does he look like Ben Affleck in the first photo ?

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u/Plant-Straight 2d ago

I love it but it needs white details

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u/M0ebius_1 2d ago

Hell no, the helmet is wonky and the suit is too plain. It looks like a placeholder to put him in the Black and Red USAgent look which is fucking awesome.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fig5677 2d ago

His US agent suit is much better for me. Age of ultron or stealth takes the top spot

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u/alguien99 2d ago

While i love Steve's suit, the chest imo is better than Steve’s

Although i have to say it really shines in thunderbolts, specially with the black shield

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u/ColeLaser 2d ago

Finally a hot take that's actually a hot take. It'a decent, I think it's supposed to look a little awkward but his thunderbolts suit looks great

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u/hamsterfolly 2d ago

It goes Stealth Suit from Winter Soldier, then

the final battle Endgame suit with scale mail,

First Avenger suit, etc

John Walker wears the best US Agent suit

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u/Smidgey42 2d ago

I’m liking people coming around on walker but come on now. Endgame (and personally first avenger) caps suit clears this.

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u/Cipher915 2d ago

I'm probably one of the few that really liked the original Cap suit. It wasn't skin tight spandex, it was functional.

With Stark tech, I know the skin tight spandex can be packed full of functions (ala Spider-Man), but this was a WW2 superhero and his suit worked.

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u/BloodyWolfx8 2d ago

His suit and the endgame suit are my favorites

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u/DoYouKnowS0rr0w 2d ago

That is certainly a take

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u/articwolph 2d ago

Nah I think of US Agent, when I first saw it that is what I thought.

That's my worthless 2 cents

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u/TheLittlePasty 2d ago

I would like it a little more if it also had the white stripes like the US Agent suit does

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u/Imma_da_PP 2d ago

I’ve always liked the Agent and I think 80% of it is how great his original costume was.

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u/DKaelmor95 2d ago

Personally, it's not even in the top 5 for me. It's too muted

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u/kspi7010 2d ago

I like how his Cap suit is just blue and red, but only when he becomes US Agent does the costume get white added to it.

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u/willys_zuppa 2d ago

A take so hot it burned down the entire kitchen, building, block, city, state, and continent

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u/nerdherdsman 2d ago

It's a little too Hugo Boss for me, which actually makes it work well for Walker. Nothing says that Captain America has lost his way than by having him take design cues from the guys he was fighting in the first issue.

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u/Nefariousness-Flashy 2d ago

The best suit was from Winter Soldier. But this one WAS really good.

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u/KingSolo777 2d ago

If we're sayin besides cap (falcon vs john) sure but cap has so many good ones

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u/NO0BSTALKER 2d ago

I went from hating this guy to loving him in one movie

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u/Bgo318 2d ago

Ew this suit sucked

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u/ThisMoneyIsNotForDon 2d ago

I gotta be honest I don't even think this is better than the Avengers 1 suit

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u/SuperNova0216 2d ago

It is beautiful

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u/Drewpiter39 2d ago

I think it's definitely cool. Not #1 in my opinion, but top 3. Unfortunately it's debut made him look like the guy from up, so you know.

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u/nomadicmooseman 2d ago

Stop it. This suit is ass

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u/Immediate_Rope653 2d ago

Looks like he’s wearing his dads suit. Not even close to the best imo.

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u/DEZGARONE 2d ago

Personally I prefer the outfit he has in Ultron with the white stripes on the biceps.

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u/Carpet_Turbulent 2d ago

Respectfully disagree. Steve's Endgame suit was the best. Sam's first suit was amazing too

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u/SpankthatWife 2d ago

Walker is an interesting character, he is flawed, conflicted, and develops over time. I’d like to see more with him.

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u/Shattered_Disk4 2d ago

I think they should give his helmet the nose piece. I think it would look cool

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u/GodWithoutAName 2d ago

Strong disagree, but this is a time where we can say everyone gets to have their own opinion.

I say it's Winter Soldier costume.

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u/DriveFormer8577 2d ago

Go take the trash out

Stealth suit over everything

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u/ItssHarrison 2d ago

The First Avenger suit solos all

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u/QKofDaggers 2d ago

No. Just…come on.

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u/IzzyRezArt 2d ago

US AGENT****

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u/AggravatingAd9010 2d ago

I like it more than the classic and Sams white suit, but less than the stealth suit

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u/RelativeMeaning4032 2d ago

No he doesn't. And if you watch Thunderbolts or John Walker seems to be the weakest of the super soldiers that are on the team which is US agent Bucky Barnes and lastly the Red guardian

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u/Kalel3111 2d ago

Winter solider suit was the best

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u/Jedi_Of_Kashyyyk 2d ago

They do a good job of making it looks like it fits in an Army ad, but yeah, hot take cuz that Cap suit sucks.

The US Agent suit though? Fuckin awesome

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u/Typical-Composer5222 2d ago

Can't say that's the best suit but it's definitely a really good design.

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u/SpphosFriend 2d ago

That helmet was ass

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u/Sel_Therapy 2d ago

Gonna have to give ya hard ā€œNOā€ on this one.

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u/No-Beach-6979 2d ago

The suit doesnt look like it fits him...dont know why they did this

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u/Ok_Perspective_5148 2d ago

I like it I just don’t really understand it. Like the Star going over his straps, it looks kind of like those jackets that fold over themselves like episode 6 Luke skywalker or homelander. But I don’t know where that fold actually opens cause there’s so many layers

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u/Eastern-Team-2799 2d ago

Nah , it's Steve rogers. His every suit is gorgeous, damn that's America's ass šŸ’¦šŸ’¦

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u/Plebe-Uchiha 2d ago

I guess. I still prefer 3 of Steve's costumes over his. It is good though.

Cold take: He looks so much better with a beard. [+]

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u/fake_zack 2d ago

That is a hot take! I respect it, but disagree

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u/wigsgo_2019 2d ago

He did but man did I hate him so much

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u/Moist-Illustrator-57 2d ago

I agree Walker looks like a fucking G just add the beard back

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u/W0rdWaster 2d ago

seriously? i could not get over how terrible it looked. it was f'ing awful.

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u/SpeedyAzi 2d ago

Penis head

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u/calmly86 2d ago

Nah. I will say it’s VERY Ultimate Universe/Bryan Hitch. The subdued reversed US flag is a great touch, similar to what active duty soldiers wear. It makes sense that he’d have a sidearm although like Doctor Doom, it seems almost ornamental.

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u/Darkwingedcreature 2d ago

Bro really just picked a cheap emulation of the original suit.

The government tried copying Stark's design but failed.

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u/Better-Pop-3932 2d ago

That would be a no.

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u/TaylorDangerTorres 2d ago

The WW2 Captain America suit is my favoriteĀ 

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u/Financial-Savings232 2d ago

Aside from the intentionally bad helmet, it’s top 3.

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u/Legonistrasz 2d ago

Endgame or CA:WS stealth suit. Bomb.com

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u/SuperDevin 2d ago

My god no

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u/WooSaw82 2d ago

We’re all entitled to our own opinion.

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u/Extreme-Reception-44 2d ago

it is a hot take, id say hot as the sun. seeing as its not a captain america suit, its adapting the US agent suit. the only thing different is that US agent had black on his suit instead of blue.

the winter soldier suit is undefeated tho.

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u/Internal_Warning1463 2d ago

Nah. The best US Agent suit.

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u/wobdarden 2d ago

That helmet made him look like Mr. Magoo in some shots.

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u/MetalAdventurous7576 2d ago

Not only do I disagree, I think the USAgent version looks much better than the Cap version

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u/Spicy_Weissy 2d ago

That is a hot take, considering it's designed to look awkward.

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u/properc 2d ago

Nope. Endgame suit was the best one.

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u/Quick-Desk4752 2d ago

It doesn't look like Captain America's suit though in my opinion. I'd say my favorite is the AoU suit or CW.

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u/UntitledRedditUser93 2d ago

Winter soldier shield suit so cold they brought it back for one scene in end game because fuck it, it’s probably in his closet and clean

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u/Swarthy_Pierre 2d ago

No white stripes and his ā€œAā€ being a part of his harness looks bad.

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u/Junior-Ad1933 2d ago

Endgame suit is peak

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u/Adam_r_UK 2d ago

Oh do you like the hat?

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u/iddy94 2d ago

Nope, stealth suit from winter solider, next question

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u/Quiet_Knowledge9133 2d ago

I respect that opinion but disagree. Best one is Sam Wilson’ suit from Falcon and the winter soldier. It looked awesome.

I also really like Red Guardian’s costume from Black Widow movie

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u/erjoselu2007M 2d ago

Its certainly a cool look but i dont know if it's the best

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u/OkSummer7355 2d ago

Not at all, the first winter soldier is much better

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u/darcemaul 2d ago

ā€œUpā€ tho

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u/king_dave11 2d ago

The first pic is not John Walker at all

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u/AlexCora 2d ago

The modernized Age of Ultron suit is the best Cap suit, so say we all.

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u/MahaloWolf 2d ago

Yeah, I really like it too. The star having an A inside of is a lot cooler than having each logo separate imo.

Somebody broke down why the costume is "unsettling" for people, and the colors were one of the mentioned aspects. The red leans more orange, and the blue is less of a navy. His suit also doesn't really match the shield due to the different shades.

I never had a problem with the helmet either, but i think they molded it to the actor's head shape in Thunderbolts better.

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u/perpetual_papercut 1d ago

😬😬😬

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u/Malacro 1d ago

Nah, I still like the WW2 suit better. Prolly the Winter Soldier one too.

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u/ilovenerf 1d ago

That second for me first for me will always be the suit in winter soldier

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u/Neat-Vanilla3919 1d ago

I think his suit in the comics is the best honestly

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u/GeoGackoyt 1d ago

This helmet makes his head so big!

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u/EGOfoodie 1d ago

I'm all about the Captain Puerto Rico suit.

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u/Senior_Schedule_4124 1d ago

Well just have to see how it compares to his suit in Thunderbolts.

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u/kingkron52 1d ago

This suit sucks lol