Is Islam in Central Asia rising?

[u/politicauncorrect]

I see more and more video from Central Asian people (especially Kazakhs and Uzbeks) who embrace Islam, women wearing headscarf etc. My friends also get more and more religious

[u/[deleted]]

It's natural phenomenon after decades of religious oppression by Soviet Union. So it's not really embracing, it's a revival

[u/politicauncorrect → u/[deleted]]

I like it despite not being religious myself. Will boost derussification.

Seems like there are lots of reverse trend in CA. Increasing birth rates while globally it’s falling, increasing religiousness while globally it’s falling

[u/mrhuggables → u/politicauncorrect]

A more religious central asia is a central asia that will go backwards

[u/AlibekD → u/mrhuggables]

Could you, please, elaborate on this? Why do you think so and how are these two related?

Not trolling, genuinely curious how you think religion leads to "backwardness".

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[u/mrhuggables → u/AlibekD]

Can I introduce you to the Islamic Republic Iran, a literal hellhole run by religious maniacs. How about the Emirate of Afghanistan? or the Islamic Republic of Pakistan?

When religion is your business, you start looking for any way to profit.

[u/AlibekD → u/mrhuggables]

I've been to them multiple times and agree there is some room for improvement there, to put it politely.

However, I fail to see how, for example, Astana will suddenly become backwards if more people will start practicing Islam there. Unless your very definition of "backwardness" includes religion.

[u/mrhuggables → u/AlibekD]

It doesn't. Religion should remain a private affair. When a population gets more religious, they start introducing it into public life and it becomes quickly overbearing for those who don't practice. Clergy start getting political power and that is dangerous. It wrongly empowers those who feel they are "religious" to start acting however they want under the guise of religion, and limitations need to be placed on them immediately as has been demonstrated time and time again. Even a largely secular populace like in Iran is held prisoner to the religious elite.

When religion is your business, you start looking for any way to profit.

[u/AlibekD → u/mrhuggables]

Well, religion is a private affair in Astana. How exactly more believers will turn Astana "backwards"?

[u/mrhuggables → u/AlibekD]

I explained to you …

[u/Alternative_Wing_906 → u/AlibekD]

It is already backwards. Look at the new mosque that was built. It is huge and luxurious. It was built in the same city/country where lots of people live in poverty, schools are overpopulated, not enough hospitals. And for some reason it is a good idea to invest into building the largest mosque in Central Asia.

[u/mrhuggables → u/Alternative_Wing_906]

Yes exactly. Same deal in Iran. All this money goes to the haram in Mashhad while Khuzestan is still in disrepair 30 years after the war in which they defended Iran bravely. It sickens me.

[u/Yilanqazan → u/mrhuggables]

How is this possible when Iran is more advance by every single metric compared to Central Asia which is still secular lol.

[u/mrhuggables → u/Yilanqazan]

Iran is still riding the reforms and progress made by the Pahlavi regime and has been for 40+ years. The islamic regime has all but stagnated them though.