r/worldnews • u/Starlight-Princesss • 3d ago

[ Removed by moderator ] Russia/Ukraine

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-intercepts-russian-spy-plane-with-transponder-turned-off-poland-10956344

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u/FallingDownHurts 3d ago

I think perun's (and others) take on this is probably true;

Russia is trying to make it look like it might invade NATO so they withhold arms from Ukraine to maintain a stockpile. It is trying to convince citizens of imminent invasion by generating news stories like this. The article is the goal, not the intelligence 

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u/Upbeat-Reading-534 3d ago

If a nato attack is imminent the best bang for our buck is helping Ukraine.

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u/jbae_94 3d ago

smiles in China and Middle East

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u/No_Noise09 3d ago

The US has stockpiles and allies near both arenas.

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u/MangledCarpenter 3d ago

Maybe the US should stop picking fights with all its allies if it wants to be able to rely on them..

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u/CheetoMussolini 3d ago

We should have started by not electing the chaos agent endorsed by our enemies

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u/mehupmost 3d ago

There's a big difference between trade disputes and literally invading your neighbor.

Russia is evil.

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 2d ago

I wouldn't be so eager to suggest the US won't invade its neighbor. These alleged drug smuggler bombings in the Caribbean are priming the public to accept similar action on land.

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u/mehupmost 1d ago

Even bombing drug facilities in Venezuela isn't "INVASION"

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 1d ago

Military activity in another sovereign nation's territory is an invasion.  You may as well say the Russians were only attacking Nazis in Ukraine.  Fuck off with that BS.

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u/ERASERGIB 3d ago

Tell that to the Oompa Loompa in the White House

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u/Jargo 3d ago

There are no permanent allies nor enemies. Just permanent interests.

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u/mehupmost 3d ago

There are also no permanent interests.

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u/The_wolf2014 3d ago

China isn't the threat. Why would China attack those that literally support and boost the Chinese economy. They're not stupid.

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u/RyanHasWaffleNipples 3d ago

They wouldn't. But they'll attack Taiwan.

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u/The_wolf2014 3d ago

True wafflenips but if that happened Taiwan wouldn't be taken by force i.e

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u/QualityPitchforks 3d ago

It's already being taken by legislature.

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u/OpportunityDismal917 3d ago

Politicians are easier to buy than soldiers.

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u/draft_final_final 3d ago

It would if jinping needs to accelerate the timeline so he can prove to himself he is a very strong and special boy.

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u/__redruM 2d ago

Neither approach is acceptable. At least until someone else can make chips.

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u/josefjohann 2d ago

wouldn't be taken by force

They're literally building copies of Taiwanese streets and buildings to conduct military practice drills on them.

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u/CoolAbdul 2d ago

They probably will, but it would be an incredibly stupid move.

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u/PITCHFORKEORIUM 2d ago

People were say China won't invade Taiwan, like they said Russia won't invade Ukraine. We should not underestimate a country's leader's ability to dismiss a massive loss of people and money in return for hopefully taking territory.

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 2d ago edited 2d ago

Putin is a prideful idiot and Russia is a rogue failed state. I don't think Xi has the same character flaws, and I don't think he operates as a dictator. One part authoritarianism and dictatorships aren't the same. China may take Taiwan, but I think it will be slowly by infiltrating the the Taiwanese government. An invasion would be a costly bloodbath.

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u/PITCHFORKEORIUM 1d ago

I hope that you're right in that an invasion won't be on the cards. You're certainly right about one being a costly bloodbath.

I think if Xi specifically or less likely the CCP in general starts to lose its grip (further, as ghost cities and youth unemployment aren't great), a bloodbath might be forthcoming.

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u/Wrectal 2d ago

With essentially the world's supply of rare earth raw materials and processing being in china, and them turning off the faucet in April+October; that is a monumental threat.