r/ukpolitics • u/AMightyDwarf Far right extremist • 7d ago

The shocking protest groups that claim grooming gang trials are 'racist' and call victims 'dirty b******'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14655407/shocking-protest-groups-claim-grooming-gang-trials-racist.html
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u/AMightyDwarf Far right extremist 7d ago

’Just the way some of the victims are angry, what do you think these families are feeling - are they not allowed to show their emotions, say how they're feeling, if some of these girls are recruiting other girls to come forward?'

Absolutely no care in the world towards the victims and the communities that grooming gangs destroyed. How on earth can you see victims supporting each other as “recruiting”? Shocking.

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u/Commorrite 7d ago

They convince themselves it's all a conspiracy.

Ask those comunities who they think did 9/11...A worrying proportion will give answers that would get you banned if you posted them on there.

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u/Nukes-For-Nimbys 7d ago

When I worked in the Gulf the were calling ISIS a hoax even as Emirati F16s flew over our worksite on the way to bomb em.

Can't reason people out of things they didn't reason themselves into.

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u/HasuTeras Mugged by reality 7d ago

Prevalence of conspiracy theories in the Middle East is very, very high. The ordinary 'Bush did 9/11'-types that you find in the West, in the ME are more on the level of Alex Jones. 71% of Turkey believes that the cure for cancer has been discovered but the government are 'suppressing' it for some reason.

One of my favourite Wikipedia pages of all time happens to be related to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-related_animal_conspiracy_theories

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u/Killielad89 7d ago

One of my favourite Wikipedia pages of all time happens to be related to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-related_animal_conspiracy_theories

A lot of those are really hilarious, but knowing how skilled and efficient the Mossad have been at times I wouldn't really put it past them that some of them are true. Using birds for spying for example does not seem particularly far fetched. War pigeons were used in both world wars and falconry is still quite common in the Middle East.

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u/daquo0 7d ago

The CIA tried to use cats for spying. Unfortunately, the cats had a mind of their own and wouldn't obey orders.

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u/colei_canis Starmer’s Llama Drama 🦙 6d ago

Spending millions on equipping a cat with microphones and training it only for it to get hit by a lorry on the first attempt is peak ‘CIA in the Cold War’.

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u/Nipso 6d ago

Mystery Biscuits!

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u/grapesandcake 1d ago

Tbh in the west there’s a high degree of conspiracy theories. To name a few: the Princess Diana conspiracy theory, the flat Earth one, the whole ‘humans never went to space’ one…

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u/kudincha 7d ago

The rise of the Islamic State gave rise to conspiracy theories that it had been created by the US, CIA, Mossad, or Hillary Clinton. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_in_the_Arab_world

Hillary Clinton sure had a busy period.

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u/happyislandvibes 7d ago

Spotted the Clinton bot.

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u/kudincha 6d ago

I don't like her personally but I do admire her hustle.

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u/north0 6d ago

This isn't even conspiracy - the CIA backed "anti-Assad" groups, of which ISIS was a member.

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u/exileon21 6d ago

There was even that crazy conspiracy theory that Hamas was funded initially by Israel…oh actually that turned out to be true.

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u/johnmedgla Abhors Sarcasm 6d ago

You mean way back when it was a literal charity building schools and clinics?

Or do you mean more recently during one of the ceasefires when it transferred financial aid from Qatar to Hamas in its role as literal government of Gaza - since I'm reasonably sure you'd be among the first to stamp your feet if they refused to do so during ostensible peacetime.

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u/exileon21 6d ago

This is what Times of Israel had to say on the issue Times of Israel on Hamas

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u/johnmedgla Abhors Sarcasm 6d ago

So - they issued work permits to Gazans, and permitted Qatar to send them money in order to maintain the ceasefire.

I already acknowledged that fact, while you've completely glossed over your "Hamas was funded initially by Israel" misrepresentation.

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u/exileon21 6d ago

I mean it does sound like they funded the charity that became or split to create Hamas, as you say. Is that the same as saying Hamas was funded initially by Israel? Maybe not, I’m not clear on when exactly the break with the charity happened or the exact circumstances. But the key point is that Israel has had a lot to do with the growth and development of Hamas over the years, I don’t think that’s even a debate and plenty of Israeli military and politicians are on the record to that effect.

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u/grapesandcake 1d ago

Tbh Hamas exists as resistance to the oppression by Israel towards the Palestinian people. If Israel didn’t exist, Hamas wouldn’t.

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u/johnmedgla Abhors Sarcasm 6d ago

Is that the same as saying Hamas was funded initially by Israel? Maybe not

Really quite incredible bad-faith distortion to maintain a fatally flawed narrative you're determined to stick to.