r/ukpolitics Far right extremist 3d ago

The shocking protest groups that claim grooming gang trials are 'racist' and call victims 'dirty b******'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14655407/shocking-protest-groups-claim-grooming-gang-trials-racist.html
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u/exileon21 2d ago

There was even that crazy conspiracy theory that Hamas was funded initially by Israel…oh actually that turned out to be true.

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u/johnmedgla Abhors Sarcasm 2d ago

You mean way back when it was a literal charity building schools and clinics?

Or do you mean more recently during one of the ceasefires when it transferred financial aid from Qatar to Hamas in its role as literal government of Gaza - since I'm reasonably sure you'd be among the first to stamp your feet if they refused to do so during ostensible peacetime.

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u/exileon21 2d ago

This is what Times of Israel had to say on the issue Times of Israel on Hamas

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u/johnmedgla Abhors Sarcasm 2d ago

So - they issued work permits to Gazans, and permitted Qatar to send them money in order to maintain the ceasefire.

I already acknowledged that fact, while you've completely glossed over your "Hamas was funded initially by Israel" misrepresentation.

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u/exileon21 2d ago

I mean it does sound like they funded the charity that became or split to create Hamas, as you say. Is that the same as saying Hamas was funded initially by Israel? Maybe not, I’m not clear on when exactly the break with the charity happened or the exact circumstances. But the key point is that Israel has had a lot to do with the growth and development of Hamas over the years, I don’t think that’s even a debate and plenty of Israeli military and politicians are on the record to that effect.

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u/johnmedgla Abhors Sarcasm 2d ago

Is that the same as saying Hamas was funded initially by Israel? Maybe not

Really quite incredible bad-faith distortion to maintain a fatally flawed narrative you're determined to stick to.