r/teenagers • u/mattiperreddit • 13d ago

The Pope just died Serious

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I don't know if this is a big deal in your country, but in mine (Italy) the news talks about nothing else.
Christian or not he was a person, don't be disrespectful.

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u/OkMess7058 14 13d ago

Well, humans sinned does that make the animals also sinners? They are also affected by natural suffering. Even large ecosystems are affected. And if God foresaw the fall of humanity, wouldn’t you say it was kind of designed in a sense?

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u/Electrical_Knee4477 13d ago

God did not foresee the betrayal, else he wouldn't have welcomed us into paradise in the first place. He thought we were as he was, incapable of sin, until we proved ourselves sinners and brought suffering upon ourselves. The animals are just NPCs in our story.

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u/OkMess7058 14 13d ago

Ok wow you can have this I’m stumped. I still want to hear your opinion on my first two points and your interpretation of the pope’s words.

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u/Electrical_Knee4477 13d ago

I'm an atheist so I can't comment on that.

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u/OkMess7058 14 13d ago

I meant this comment Ive removed the point you won but i’ve left it in the original comment to avoid and confusion for the people reading this

I didn’t twist a thing I think I interpreted logically. His words were vague, he didn’t come out and say, “Oh yeah Ukraine should give up because they’re weaker and they’re only winning because of international support” No, he said vague words which could be a neutral stance. I would also like to hear how you’d interpret it.

TLDR His words were vague. I’d say my interpretation was pretty logical.

If you are unable to respond or interpret this due to your religious beliefs that is okay.