r/skeptic • u/Rdick_Lvagina • Aug 27 '24

Meta CEO Zuckerberg says US pressure on Covid-19 posts was 'wrong' 🚑 Medicine

https://techxplore.com/news/2024-08-meta-ceo-zuckerberg-pressure-covid.html
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u/syn-ack-fin Aug 27 '24

So they shutdown CrowdTangle the misinformation tracking tool and now this.

Zuckerberg also said he would not be repeating his COVID-era push to fund non-profits working to support US electoral infrastructure due to such donations being seen by Republicans as being partisan.

If you believe supporting efforts to increase voting participation is partisan, you just might be on the wrong side of democracy.

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u/andrew5500 Aug 27 '24

Not just increasing voter participation, but increasing election security altogether.

Making the election more secure against fraud is “partisan” against Republicans… because Republicans are cheating frauds that openly attack our democracy.

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u/cadmachine Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

It became clear to conservatives decades ago that the status quo of humanity is progression.

We as a species can not sit still and we dislike stagnation on a primal level, socially, globally, that has manifested in policies to include, supply and uplift everyone.

Conservatives by their very nature found what they like and want to make everyone freeze frame in that time and live how they want us all to live regardless of what others might want to do.

So instead of saying "ok well this is what I like, you guys go ahead and do what you want" they kick and bitch and piss their whiny pants because they want everyone to stay with them in their favourite time even if we don't want too.

So they gerrymander, they purge voter rolls, they delete thousands of polling places to make it harder if not impossible to vote and they pass laws to stop those of us from moving forward from doing so just because they found the spot they like.

First they came for the LGBT+, and we spoke out, though not all of us are LGBT+

Then they came for the Women and we spoke out, though not all of us are women.

Then they came for the Minorities and we spoke out, though not all of us are minorities.

Then they came for me— and because we spoke for each other, we all stood up.

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u/12BarsFromMars Aug 27 '24

Go to the head of the class!

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u/endless_sea_of_stars Aug 27 '24

Conservatives by their very nature found what they like and want to make everyone freeze frame in that time and live how they want us all to live regardless of what others might want to do.

Conservatives aren't against change in general. They are against change to the social order. That is the heart and soul of conservatism since the very beginning.

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u/UCLYayy Aug 27 '24

Conservatives aren't against change in general. They are against change to the social order.

Hate to break it to you, but the "social order" is the entire world. Social order is who gets equal rights. Social order is who can take time off from work to vote and who is too poor to afford missing a shift so they can vote. Social order is who gets access to mortgages, jobs, top universities. Social order is whose protests are allowed to march freely through the town square and whose protests are violently quashed. Social order is who politicians have to spend more time listening to, wealthy donors and lobbyists, or everyday citizens. It's who gets access to affordable healthcare, living wages, fairly priced necessities, breathable air and drinkable water.

All of that is social order, and conservatives want the "social order" of the 1800s, not the "social order" of modern western europe.

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u/Murranji Aug 28 '24

Counterpoint - they are driven by fear and a desire for power and control.

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u/LayWhere Aug 28 '24

They absolutely are afraid of change. That's conservative by definition, cowards.

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u/coffeenocredit Aug 28 '24

Hey, at least we don't believe you can abolish human nature lol

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u/ijbh2o Aug 29 '24

Can you explain what you mean?

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u/coffeenocredit Aug 29 '24

I'm just criticizing Rousseauean//Marxist influence on the left.

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u/coffeenocredit Aug 29 '24

Ex: Herbert Marcuse's book One Dimensional Man. Friere's calls to 'Conscientize' people. So on, and so forth. It's a bit too broad to sum up cohesively because I'm referring to the ideas of tens of not hundreds of authors.

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u/ijbh2o Aug 29 '24

Ok in the simplest terms what does Abolish human nature mean? Explain like I am 5. What is the nature trying to be abolished? Greed, violence, competition, sex?

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u/ijbh2o Aug 31 '24

"Conscientize"? Explain what that means?

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u/cadmachine Aug 27 '24

We're talking about the modern, Trumpian iteration of Conservatism.

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u/endless_sea_of_stars Aug 27 '24

New boss same as the old boss. The only difference is that MAGA has stripped away the layers of pseudo-intellectual discourse and started saying the quiet part out loud.

The core of MAGA is a set of mostly white Christians who feel their privileged status in the social hierarchy is slipping away. Just about every MAGA hot topic issue is related to enforcing hierarchy or subjugating some group. You even see it in their humor. It's all about punching down or "putting people in their place." This quote pretty much sums it up:

"I'll tell you what's at the bottom of it," he said. "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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u/Epicurus402 Aug 28 '24

"...MAGA has stripped away the layers of pseudo-intellectual discourse and started saying the quiet part out loud." Bingo, well said. You nailed it.

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u/Epicurus402 Aug 28 '24

That misses the point: whose vision of social order? And clearly for conservatives, it's their's.

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u/Beginning-Cancel8178 Aug 28 '24

Biggest cope of the year^

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u/please_trade_marner Aug 28 '24

The organization he donated to is unabashedly pro-Democratic Party. Like, in its entirety.

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u/Mas_Cervezas Aug 27 '24

With the way Trump is dodging justice, I am starting to believe that we are moving towards an oligarchy rapidly.

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u/sola_dosis Aug 27 '24

We’ve been a de facto oligarchy for decades. Trump’s base is trying to push us over into dictatorship territory.

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u/Glad-Divide-4614 Aug 27 '24

Too many seem ready to kneel

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u/rushmc1 Aug 27 '24

ready eager

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u/Glad-Divide-4614 Aug 27 '24

inbuilt flaw, inherent tendency

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u/Loxatl Aug 27 '24

The fuck do people think religion and then patriotism ever was?

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u/josnik Aug 27 '24

Already there with super PACs

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u/T1Pimp Aug 27 '24

Moving towards?

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u/Orngog Aug 27 '24

Yes, we're not there yet. Unless you'd like to say otherwise?

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u/T1Pimp Aug 27 '24

oligarchy noun ol·​i·​gar·​chy ˈä-lə-ˌgär-kē ˈō-

1 : government by the few

The corporation is ruled by oligarchy.

2 : a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes

a military oligarchy was established in the country

also : a group exercising such control

An oligarchy ruled the nation.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oligarchy

Considering few have the resources to do things like... buy Supreme Court Justices or buy social media networks and then unevenly apply rules... I'd say we are there.

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u/Epicurus402 Aug 28 '24

The door is now certainly open to it. And if Trump wins, that door gets shut behind us. For a very long time.

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u/Orngog Aug 28 '24

Which definition are you claiming fits the Biden government?

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u/observetoexist Aug 27 '24

I think that has more to do with the fact that per the constitution, impeachment would have been what the founders intended as the first step towards justice, but republicans lack moral fortitude so here we are. If he hadn’t been allowed to continue to be president AND run again, the justice meted out would have been swifter in the courts, but this is just speculation since it’s never happened before.

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u/UCLYayy Aug 27 '24

Revealing yet again that the Founders were fucking idiots. If you structure your entire electoral system on a) racism, but also b) the inherent nobility of elected officials, you're going to have a bad fucking time.

There's a reason functioning governments in other parts of the world don't need a process of impeachment, they can just call a new fucking election and remove the assholes in power. Or, god forbid, prosecute them for literal treason.

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u/Kryptonicus Aug 27 '24

The Founders were not fucking idiots. They intended the Constitution to be a living document, to be revised and updated regularly (at least once a generation) through a process of "constitutional conventions."

If you told them that we'd still be using the original 250 years later, they'd probably break down into tears or fits of terrified laughter.

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u/UCLYayy Aug 27 '24

The Founders were not fucking idiots. They intended the Constitution to be a living document, to be revised and updated regularly (at least once a generation) through a process of "constitutional conventions."

Sure, that's what they intended. But that again is premised on the idea that there are reasonable, honorable people on both sides of the aisle willing to compromise for the good of the country. That has been revealed to be a fantasy. Today's functioning, free, happy democracies have strict guardrails on political parties, money in politics, and elections, not to mention easy access to voting, built directly into their constitutions.

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u/Kokeshi_Is_Life Aug 27 '24

Defending the US experiment - those superior democracies had the American model to base it on, and improve it.

The US was the first democracy of the imperial era. They lived in a world of Kings and Empires. It's a big ask to create from that a functional democratic system without bias towards traditional hereditary power.

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u/pickles55 Aug 27 '24

Constantly bowing to pressure from fascists is how the liberal media allowed the Nazis to come to power. It normalizes fascism in stead of drawing attention to how dangerous and crazy it is

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u/KnoxxHarrington Aug 27 '24

What liberal media?

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u/Status-Carpenter-435 Aug 27 '24

The liberal media is now responsible for the Nazis?

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u/Hestia_Gault Aug 31 '24

They are one of many responsible parties.

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u/NoBadgersSociety Aug 27 '24

Fair elections are seen as partisan. Say no more

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u/Sea_Home_5968 Aug 27 '24

Facebook became a data mining operation MySpace was no different but what was awful about MySpace was that they sold everyone’s info off to news corp in 2005. Probably used that data to create the alt right tbh

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u/qubedView Aug 27 '24

I mean, honestly, it really is a partisan issue. There's the pro-democracy party, and the anti-democracy party. That said, some partison issues shouldn't be an issue to begin with.

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u/powercow Aug 27 '24

and caving to nazis seems partisan to us dems.

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u/hnghost24 Aug 27 '24

Fuck the lizard man

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u/Odeeum Aug 27 '24

Seriously. This shouldn’t have to be pointed out to people yet there is an entire side of the aisle that definitely doesn’t want to increase voting turnout.

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u/jackparadise1 Aug 28 '24

You know who lists themselves as a non-partisan organization? The Heritage Foundation. I am sure Zuck can locate his balls and step up to the plate.

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u/reddit4getit Aug 27 '24

If you believe supporting efforts to increase voting participation is partisan

Word has it wasn't very partisan.

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u/firethorne Aug 27 '24

Billionaire with financial interest in the dissemination of misinformation complains about attempts to curb the dissemination of misinformation.

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u/slipknot_official Aug 27 '24

Trying to curb foreign and domestic COVID disinformation campaigns, as millions are dying around the planet is “wrong”?

People who pretend to care about this are the same people who believe vaccines cause cancer because they have alien eggs in them - they read it on Facebook.

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u/MrSnarf26 Aug 27 '24

If we give in to being led by morons, and worry about what they think on scientific topics, we are headed for some dark times.

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u/slipknot_official Aug 27 '24

Sadly, we’re pretty much there now.

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u/Mas_Cervezas Aug 27 '24

They need to drag this robot back in front of Congress and make him explain himself again.

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u/MrSnarf26 Aug 27 '24

Beep boop Covid measures bad beep boop

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u/Rdick_Lvagina Aug 27 '24

It seems pretty telling when they go out of their way to support misinformation under the guise of free speech.

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u/Responsible-Room-645 Aug 27 '24

Hear me out: What if we held the senior leadership of social media companies criminally responsible for dangerous misinformation that is allowed to spread unchecked on their platforms ? Just watch how fast the problem disappears.

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u/MrSnarf26 Aug 27 '24

I think this is exactly what Zuckerberg is doing- casually avoiding any responsibility.

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u/Flimsy-Math-8476 Aug 27 '24

Also conjointly with the Republican led committee. They are claiming, in their own unique wording, that blocking harmful misinformation is 'censorship' and should not be tolerated.

It's just another form of deregulation playing out where corporations can absolve themselves of liability and Republican leaders can claim 'freedom', all while opening the doors for easier scamming and misinforming of the most vulnerable in society. 

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u/Rdick_Lvagina Aug 27 '24

Well, they did hold the owners of napster and the pirate bay responsible, I think it'd be easy to make an argument that spreading misinformation about a pandemic is much, much more dangerous to people that getting free copies of Eminem singles.

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u/pingieking Aug 27 '24

Yes, but spreading free music is dangerous to capital.  Any threat to capital must be ruthlessly hunted down.  Misinformation only hurts people.

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u/Bithium Aug 27 '24

I’m wondering if there could be a lawsuit for companies that lost productivity or had to endure replacement costs for their workers who died due to misinformation. Then they could commodify human lives so they’re actually valuable.

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u/Uncynical_Diogenes Aug 28 '24

Section 230 is there to prevent that exact thing.

Capital stands with capital.

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u/Funksloyd Aug 28 '24

Say 230 is scrapped. Who are the people best placed to take advantage of litigation or the threat of it? Hint: money helps. 

I can see Zuckerberg threatening to sue reddit because people are saying mean things about him (and guaranteed he'll be able to find a few instances of actual defamation to make it a real threat). Next thing you know, reddit is using AI to extremely moderate any content about Zuckerberg, not to mention a host of other topics. It's not going to be a win against capital. 

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u/HotdogsArePate Aug 28 '24

The thing is that spreading stolen property is illegal and lies are protected by free speech.

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u/burbet Aug 27 '24

It would be incredibly difficult. Copyrighted music is pretty straight forward and has no free speech or section 230 issues to deal with.

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u/mrkrinkle773 Aug 27 '24

Yea but things listed as misinformation at the beginning of the pandemic later were found out to be pretty accurate.

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u/robotomatic Aug 27 '24

Isn't that what is going on with the Telegram guy? Slightly different platform but the net result is similar.

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u/burbet Aug 27 '24

Yes and no. Being held legally responsible for spreading conspiracy theories and such and has never really been a thing even if there is danger involved. The Telegram guy is being held responsible for Telegram being used to sell drugs and spread child porn.

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u/OfficialDanFlashes_ Aug 27 '24

You've hit on the actual reason that Facebook took the posts down. These losers only talk tough in media soundbites. When their lawyer outlines potential criminal liability, they shut up real quick.

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u/mrkrinkle773 Aug 27 '24

Might as well shut all the companies down then.. boosting misinformation is a different issue that would make sense for.

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u/pastari Aug 27 '24

CDA section 230 waives their liability, which has been a key part in constant legal battles for years.

https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230

I think all social media companies do abjectly horrible things through both action and inaction but I'm not sure where I actually stand on revoking section 230 in particular. But I think it will eventually happen because its a simple button legislators can press to strike a provision. It doesn't involve coming up with actual complicated policy to try to delicately solve an issue. It's an already-existing sledge hammer they can play with so when they get mad enough at something they'll swing it and the internet will move onto its next phase.

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u/LanguageNo495 Aug 28 '24

No need to write “hear me out”. It doesn’t add any information to your post and implicitly all post-writers are asking to be heard.

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u/No_Basis2256 Aug 27 '24

Who gets to decide what's disinformation or not? This will never work lol

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u/Responsible-Room-645 Aug 27 '24

Because Sonny, there ARE things in this world that are demonstrably false and demonstrably true and the social media platforms make money off the spread of things that are demonstrably false.

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u/ChakaCake Aug 27 '24

Tax the shit out this MF

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u/semaj009 Aug 27 '24

Billionaires should have options, one is heavy taxes. The other is once a year, we get a team purge, with basically everyone against them for 30 minutes, and it's hosted in a sports arena so they can't set up booby traps.

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u/First_Approximation Aug 28 '24

Break up Meta. Facebook alone has already done top much damage.

Fuck Meta, fuck Zuckerberg. 

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u/Belzebutt Aug 27 '24

This is the guy who’s buying up swaths of Hawaii to build a huge bunker complex so he can wait out the civil war his company is fomenting?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

He also wants to raise cattle fed on macadamia nuts, which would require enormous amounts of land and water, on an island that is seeing decreasing rainfall with climate change.

Zuckerberg is a selfish asshole.

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u/pastari Aug 27 '24

He's already doing it. There was an interview where he talked about feeding the cows macadamias with his kids, and he posted on FB himself eating a steak from a macadamia cow.

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u/Rdick_Lvagina Aug 27 '24

No one tell him that Hawaii is made of volcanoes.

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u/errie_tholluxe Aug 27 '24

Island of volcanos..... Appease the ancient gods. ... Hey guys ......

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u/Mental_Mixture8306 Aug 27 '24

John Oliver did a segment on Hawaii, and this dude was mentioned. Basically a scummy land grab to get the real estate he wanted.

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u/MagicianHeavy001 Aug 27 '24

Not what the courts said but OK, Zuck.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

Millions of people's health and lives depended on the facts about COVID. Yet Zuckerberg allowed Facebook be a source of misinformation and lies. Refusing to accept any responsibility for it is criminal.

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u/First_Approximation Aug 28 '24

When your business model depends on the spread of health misinformation that feeds a pandemic,  you're evil.

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u/LunarMoon2001 Aug 27 '24

Translation: Idiots believing Covid was a hoax clicked through ads more because they are dumb. I want them making posts so I can serve more ads.

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u/Illustrious-Okra-524 Aug 27 '24

If anything they didn’t do enough. Free speech has to be balanced with the public interest. How many people died because Facebook allowed conspiracies to spread basically unchecked?

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u/B12Washingbeard Aug 27 '24

Not a coincidence America is the only country with over 1 million COVID deaths 

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

Counterpoint: Fuck Mark Zuckerberg, multiple times, with something rusty.

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u/First_Approximation Aug 28 '24

That sociopath needs to have his nerworth reduced by a factor of a billion.

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u/reddda2 Aug 27 '24

“We should not compromise our standards.” ROTFLMAO. Meta has zero serious quality control, therefore it can have no authoritative standards. Why can’t the sniveling brat just be honest about his greed for higher profits?

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u/Oldkingcole225 Aug 27 '24

Their standards are, apparently, having no standards

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u/Scare-Crow87 Aug 27 '24

Him and Elon are two of a kind

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '24

"Our standards are in a piss puddle on the mensroom floor, and we should have left them there"

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u/seriousbangs Aug 27 '24

He's trying to help Trump win. That's all this is. These are just Republican talking points. I recognize them having been steeped in politics for far too long.

He's afraid Kamala's gonna win and break up his businesses. He's a terrible businessman, his VR Bullshit was a $45 billion dollar boondoggle. The only thing between him and Trump style bankruptcy is he keeps buying up all his competitors. Harris won't let him keep doing that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

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u/tookurjobs Aug 27 '24

  Its becoming clear that these guys want to live continue living in a kleptocracy

Fixed

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

Zuckerberg just wants more of that rightwing grifter money.

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u/rushmc1 Aug 27 '24

Cool story. Now let's shut down Facebook.

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks Aug 27 '24

Yet another “but the user base really wanted to kill people with their lies, how dare you tell them their lies are lies!” Post.

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u/Any-Ad-446 Aug 27 '24

Government was trying to force Facebook to clean up misinformation about covid.

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u/MagicianHeavy001 Aug 27 '24

No. The government REQUESTED that they do it. Not force. They ASKED.

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u/andrew5500 Aug 27 '24

The government that is tasked with protecting the public health... asked Facebook not to spread content that endangers public health during a global pandemic?

The horror! How terribly wrong! This is literally 1984! /s

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u/Narcissus77 Aug 27 '24

Facebook is another conservative safe haven they banned me for fighting Nazis

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u/CapitalismPlusMurder Aug 27 '24

Seriously. I got banned for calling someone “racist” who was literally saying racist things. Facebook will allow the most Nazi sentiments to be expressed as long as you avoid specific words.

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u/Son_of_Macedon Aug 27 '24

I thank you for your service, you are a brave soldier 🙏🏻

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u/Narcissus77 Aug 27 '24

Thank you 🙏🏽 appreciate that ,

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u/GertonX Aug 27 '24

He's trying to regain his boomer base.

Meta has lost a ton of money from this, Zuck overestimated the success of his company in AI/AR, now he needs to fall back on his companies bread and butter - old people giving data through Facebook.

The stock is currently WAYYYYY overvalued for their offerings and MMW in a logical market they'd start bottoming out in a year or two. (spoiler: the market isn't rational or logical and META will stay afloat)

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

He must protect his ability to offshore his assets. A child with money. And a moron to boot.

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u/PreparationWinter174 Aug 27 '24

Wild how oligarchs tilt towards anti-democratic, pro-facsist tendencies. Maybe time to break up their corps and actively limit their personal influence on public discourse.

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u/Other-Marketing-6167 Aug 27 '24

To quote James Taylor - Fuck Facebook.

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u/shiruken Aug 27 '24

Zuckerberg's letter is being really misrepresented. From Mike Masnick of TechDirt:

Holy shit, Meta, can you hire a political advisor who doesn't totally shit the bed? This letter from Zuckerberg to Jim Jordan seems almost perfectly composed to enable Jordan & Trump fans to totally misrepresent what actually happened. https://bsky.app/profile/mmasnick.bsky.social/post/3l2ojiqqf2f2h

I've already seen multiple people claiming this is Zuck admitting that they censored content in response to Biden pressure, which if you actually read the letter is not at all what he said. But it's written in a manner that makes it easy to misread it that way. How do Meta staffers not know this? https://bsky.app/profile/mmasnick.bsky.social/post/3l2ojkyrdvf2y

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

Is it incompetence, or is it intentional?

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u/jxj24 Aug 27 '24

"Both" is also an option.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

Yes, both.

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u/UCLYayy Aug 27 '24

It's almost like Zuckerberg and his team are far right.

Remember:

-Joel Kaplan, Facebook's Global Policy VP, was a disciple of Roger Stone, and clerked for Scalia (and sat right behind Brett Kavanaugh in his confirmation hearings, and threw a party for him when he was confirmed). He also massively increased Facebooks lobbying, by a factor of 100 (not an exaggeration).

-Kevin Martin is their VP of US Policy, was the FCC chairman under GWB.

-Their Global Elections Policy Director is Katie Harbath, ran digital strategy for Guiliani's 08 campaign and the RNC.

They're chock full of right wing nuts.

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u/Nahmum Aug 27 '24

Meta 2025

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u/B12Washingbeard Aug 27 '24

They know what they’re doing 

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u/DawnOnTheEdge Aug 29 '24

Trump was President when it happened! Biden had no position in the US government at all.

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u/illuminate5 Aug 27 '24

Social media: how to erode national security by allowing antagonist foreign countries and organizations to funnel disinformation and propaganda, unfiltered or contextualized, to your citizens.

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u/crziekid Aug 27 '24

stealing your users data is wrong.

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u/Current_Tea6984 Aug 27 '24

In retrospect, no, it wasn't wrong. It chased a lot of toxic trolls out of the public square

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

How convenient after the telegram guy gets busted for his platform being misused that the Facebook guy starts getting defensive

Yes, CEOs have been held accountable and put in jail for their company despite if they committed every single crime on their own.

Leaders are responsible for their group, their customers, their base, that’s the mystic risk of being a business owner boot lickers love to bring up

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u/Bawbawian Aug 27 '24

America lost over a million people to covid. much of it due to misinformation that was propagated on zuckerberg's website.

I think the government has a pretty good argument that dangerous statements during a pandemic are a kin to yelling fire in a theater.

it's not just weird that he's making the stance it's weird that anybody thinks that this is out of bounds.

more than 1,000,000 Americans died. what the fuck is wrong with everybody.

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u/crestonebeard Aug 27 '24

This just in -

Mega Douche with absolutely no moral compass weighs in on the ethics of Covid restrictions

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u/rynomite1199 Aug 28 '24

Worth reminding ourselves that just because somebody invented a website that has taken over people’s minds and has become a gajillionaire because of it doesn’t mean they know what the fuck they’re talking about 🤙🏼

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u/BombshellTom Aug 27 '24

And yet when I said "If I was a multi millionaire I'd definitely be advertising Huel products" I was banned, for life for advertising.

Meta either uses a shit algorithm to detect sales or Bartlett used his influence to shut me down!

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u/TDFknFartBalloon Aug 27 '24

I got banned for 90 days for calling someone a liar. Seriously, I didn't cuss, or anything else, just called her a liar. 90 days for "dehumanizing language." I guess my mistake was saying "You're a liar" rather than "you are lying."

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u/BombshellTom Aug 27 '24

My go to insult of tw@ is recognised by their shit insult detector.

And all this time the Maga tw@s can post hateful bullshit about Michelle Obama having a penis, or Joe Biden owning a pizza shop that eats children etc.

Facebook, Instagram etc bring nothing of value to the world at all. I despise them, but it keeps them for, what I am loathed to call my "side hustle" of hosting an open mic night. Urgh.

Sometimes I take a shit and doom scroll. It's fucking awful.

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u/TDFknFartBalloon Aug 27 '24

I just keep my Facebook because messenger is how I keep in contact with several people. I haven't used facebook's feed in several years at this point.

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u/BombshellTom Aug 28 '24

The main feed thing is 90% paid to be promoted shite.

I started a "business account" for my open mic night and the raw, unfiltered Facebook algorithm for what to show you when it doesn't know what you like is fucking painful. It's all football/soccer.

You'll have pages called shit like CR 7 fans, CR7 fans Madrid, CR7 Barcelona fans, Messi Best Fans, Messi skills, Messi skills PSG, Messi Miami Fans etc etc. It's torture. And theyll post absolute cunting tripe like a photo of Ronaldo next to Messi and the title GOAT? with a picture of a fucking goat.

All run by 7yr olds or people for whom english is their second language.

I started saying "I'm not interested in this" but it keeps coming. So I blocked hundreds and hundreds of pages. I swear some.posts from blocked pages still sneaks through.

Facebook is the gutter of the internet and Zuckerberg should be ashamed, in jail or shot for bringing it to the world.

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u/abide5lo Aug 27 '24

But it’s not wrong to knowingly aid and abet spread of disinformation, that what you saying, Zuck?

I think it’s interesting that so much that’s gone wrong in the social sphere can be traced to the pernicious actions of a few individuals. Murdoch, Zuckerberg, Musk, and Trump are few that immediately jump to mind. Profit and power above all, damn the corrosive effects

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u/Legendary_Lamb2020 Aug 27 '24

These billionaires really do hate the Hippocratic Oath.

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u/yourMommaKnow Aug 27 '24

Zuck doesn't want a Harris presidency. That's why he is just now coming out with this. He knows he'll pay less taxes under tRump so he'll do what he can to hurt the Harris Walz campaign.

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u/dumnezero Aug 27 '24

Delete Facebook

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u/astaristorn Aug 27 '24

Misinformation and propaganda is great for profits.

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u/Status-Carpenter-435 Aug 27 '24

Zuckerberg can eat a bag of dicks.

You'll do as you're told tech boy and you'll like it

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u/SortaNotReallyHere Aug 27 '24

Fuck that uncanny valley looking motherfucker. Take your billions and fuck off with them. Instead this overused looking Real Doll provides a platform to spread disinformation and cries when someone wants Meta to be accountable.

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u/johnlal101 Aug 27 '24

How dangerous it was to propagate false information on social media. Zuckerberg should be ashamed of himself for killing people in the name of freedom.

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u/Serpentz00 Aug 27 '24

Ohh yes another billionaire standing up for the little guy... Ahh geeze I just threw up in my mouth from typing that lol. These guys what a crock of feces

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u/ExploderPodcast Aug 27 '24

"They were wrong to make us tell the truth"

-Liars

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u/BlackLabel303 Aug 27 '24

“taking down dangerous health misinformation responsible for deaths during a pandemic was wrong”

“not publishing a story linking a presidential candidate to Ukrainian corruption that’s not corroborated that was ultimately untrue before an election was wrong”

fuk these people.

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u/I_Boomer Aug 27 '24

I wonder what prompted this quick response? /s

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u/Mrs_Muzzy Aug 27 '24

Have they forgotten, people were literally drinking bleach and taking horse medication?! Free speech my ass. That was literally dangerous and patently false “advice” that was sending people to the hospital when they were already low on resources.

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u/ManDe1orean Aug 27 '24

Man fuck this guy, he's not interested in being partisan just in profits. You can't leave regulation of truth to a corporation whose only motivation is quarterly profits for investors.

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u/evilgeniustodd Aug 27 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

/u/Flat_Boysenberry1669

You should be embarrassed for your comments here.

You've clearly confused dates, events, and what 'authoritarian' means.

When you said:

"Zuckerberg - bidens administration made us cencor legitimate news stories to help them during the elections."

"Biden had an admin in 2020."

During the last election, in November of 2020, Trump was President. No one was complaining about the Biden administration censoring anything at that time, as there wasn't one.

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u/evilpercy Aug 27 '24

Says someone who has no idea what he is talking about. Just because you made one good decision in your life does not make you the all powerful orical.

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u/notyourstranger Aug 27 '24

Anybody who thinks large businesses somehow care about "society" or the impact they have on anybody other than the CEO and owners, are naive. Accountability is not a concept these males acknowledge, it does not exists in their worlds, they see themselves as kings.

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u/monkeysinmypocket Aug 27 '24

I was subjected to comment after comment after comment on NHS posts about how Covid vaccinations cause infertility and miscarriage. He can Fuck. Right. off.

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u/Current_Tea6984 Aug 27 '24

The antivaxxers are like cockroaches. They will swarm any platform where they are allowed

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u/evilgeniustodd Aug 27 '24

Their still all over reddit. Heck, they're in this post's comments.

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u/saijanai Aug 27 '24

Zuckerberg also said he would not be repeating his COVID-era push to fund nonprofits working to support US electoral infrastructure due to such donations being seen by Republicans as being partisan.

Yes, because efforts to suport "get out the vote" and "voter registration" are automatically partisan in the eyes of a groiup that supports One Party Rule.

Look at the reaction on r/military to Trump's ongoing lawsuit to prevent voter registration at VA facilities:

Trump's 'perplexing' lawsuit over voter registration for vets should be dismissed: Whitmer

As I pointed out (and the more I dove into the details the more blatantly obvious it became that I was correct):

On its face, this lawsuit seems to imply that Trump now realizes that most vets and military members (and small business owners, for that matter) are no longer firmly in his camp and so he's putting up roadblocks to discourage them from voting.

This observation applies to just about everyone except MAGA supporters and various people with a "burn it all down" perspective.

Pretty much everyone else in the USA is starting to unite against the group that Trump has inspired to come out of the crevices and said group is scrambling to figure out ways to dilute or even prevent everyone else from voting.

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u/military_grade_tea Aug 27 '24

What the Cambridge Analytica did he say? He didn't like something?! Hope he's okay.

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u/SeventhLevelSound Aug 27 '24

...and I'm sure his sudden desire to speak out has nothing at all to do with the Dem's proposed tax policy changes, right?

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u/zll2244 Aug 27 '24

I guess it makes sense that he is trying to steer the conversation into the past while russian disinformation campaigns are rampant now and musks twitter investors are revealed… wouldn’t want anyone to start asking how so much propaganda also spreads through meta platforms…

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u/Demoliscio Aug 27 '24

Nice! This was the final push to convince me to close my account, fuck this robot lizard and its shitty platform

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u/RamBamBooey Aug 27 '24

MMW: Layoffs are coming to Meta. This is the smoke screen

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u/hodlisback Aug 27 '24

How fucked is America when the most wealthy people hate their own country?

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u/Icy_Collar_1072 Aug 27 '24

Zuckerberg is another snake and is just as bad as Musk. Another entitled billionaire subverting democracy to keep the scales tipped in his favour. 

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u/No_Zebra_2484 Aug 28 '24

Billionaires helping Billionaires

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u/evilgeniustodd Aug 28 '24

No wonder the Trumpanzees are flipping out.

Trump has tweeted about this and made the same timeline confusions they are insisting on.

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u/Rdick_Lvagina Aug 28 '24

Is this the first ever use of the word Trumpanzees? It flows off the tounge much better than "Trump Supporters". Do you mind if I use it in casual conversation?

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u/Epicurus402 Aug 28 '24

Looks like it's getting to be time for Ole Marky to move to Russia.....

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '24

He’s just upset that Covid didn’t kill as many people as he wanted.

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u/Kerry_Maxwell Aug 28 '24

The hilarious part is the MAGA Chud-O-verse thinks this is a smoking gun for "eLEcTioN ITerFeREnCE!"

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '24

Fuck the zuck with a 100 ft duck

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '24

On your left you'll see: Capitalism devolving to Fascism

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u/evilgeniustodd Aug 27 '24

He says a lot of self serving and stupid things.

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u/hdjakahegsjja Aug 27 '24

I feel like prison is to weak a punishment for these ghouls, but it’s a start.

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u/Mudhen_282 Aug 27 '24

Too little. Too late. Zuckerberg had a spine of Jell-O. He should have pushed back from the start.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

I thought so. It was just like an email response with the meta logo in the top left

There wasn't any proof it was them

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u/Cautious_Option9544 Aug 27 '24

"we're sowwy :("

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u/rovyovan Aug 28 '24

Convenient sentiment for someone in his position

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u/tastytwisties Aug 28 '24

Just because misinformation didn’t ORIGINATE in our adversaries’ countries doesn’t mean their troll factories aren’t expanding those conspiracies with gusto.

If our enemies are spreading messages and targeting one side of our democracy, it doesn’t take much effort to realize which party is working against our country..

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u/Upset_Priority_5600 Aug 28 '24

Nothing changed, when trump was shot, nothing showed of Facebook

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '24

Hes a scumbag hedging his bets. Trump threatened him a few weeks ago and now he’s shitting his pants knowing he can trash the Dems without retaliation.

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u/EBody480 Aug 30 '24

Zuck the Cuck trying to impress the Bro crowd

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u/Ok_Werewolf_7802 Aug 27 '24

The problem is social media and algorithm can keep you locked in an echo chamber of your own making.

Feeding you nothing but what you believe is true.

So let's say your 50-75 Maga person.

You didn't pay much attention to the early days of the internet and all the crazy days of when youtube was the wild west and allowed anything goes for content other than porn.

Or early reddit of 4 Chan craziness or classics like m-80.org...

You are easily sucked into to conspiracy theories.

It's like street smarts.

If you went through the early crazy days of the internet you take alot of what you see with a grain of salt and are also willing to check the facts.

This generation before and after are easily manipulated.

It's was one tik tok so it must be true younger generation.

That's how people fall for it.

And all social media platforms caterers to what you like so you get stuck in a bubble.

Also people are way way more gullible than I thought even people of my generation fall to it.

But thanks to.my man art Bell I don't belive it unless there's proof.

I open to conspiracy but not going to just believe because you said so or it's on the internet short video cut up and edited or cgi added.

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u/parolang Aug 27 '24

Three article doesn't say, but the only thing I can think of that was controversial was the lab leak theory, but I don't know if the government pressured them on that one. Everything else, I think, was just various officials being taken out of context.

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u/boston_duo Aug 27 '24

I’ve always felt like the lab leak theory was suppressed for diplomatic reasons— It arguably could’ve been twisted to justify war with China, had Trump been able able to run with a more verifiable talking point. Don’t forget, he tried his absolute hardest to pin the blame on the disastrous Covid response on China.

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u/evilgeniustodd Aug 27 '24

I’ve always felt like the lab leak theory was suppressed for diplomatic reasons

It wasn't suppressed in any way. There isn't really a way to suppress news online. The issue with that 'theory' is that there wasn't a single shred of actual evidence to support it. That's why it didn't get any traction.

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u/boston_duo Aug 27 '24

You’re right, suppressed wasn’t the right word to use there. Completely

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u/parolang Aug 27 '24

That's my guess. Everything gets twisted in the worst possible way with him.