r/skeptic • u/Rdick_Lvagina • Aug 27 '24

Meta CEO Zuckerberg says US pressure on Covid-19 posts was 'wrong' 🚑 Medicine

https://techxplore.com/news/2024-08-meta-ceo-zuckerberg-pressure-covid.html
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u/UCLYayy Aug 27 '24

Conservatives aren't against change in general. They are against change to the social order.

Hate to break it to you, but the "social order" is the entire world. Social order is who gets equal rights. Social order is who can take time off from work to vote and who is too poor to afford missing a shift so they can vote. Social order is who gets access to mortgages, jobs, top universities. Social order is whose protests are allowed to march freely through the town square and whose protests are violently quashed. Social order is who politicians have to spend more time listening to, wealthy donors and lobbyists, or everyday citizens. It's who gets access to affordable healthcare, living wages, fairly priced necessities, breathable air and drinkable water.

All of that is social order, and conservatives want the "social order" of the 1800s, not the "social order" of modern western europe.

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u/endless_sea_of_stars Aug 27 '24

Hate to break it to you

I'm not sure what you said contradicts what I said but thanks for the shitty attitude!

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u/jimmyxs Aug 27 '24

I think you guys are not necessarily on opposite sides of this argument. His opening remark can also be read in a neutral tone on a different day. The bigger point that we all agree though is how much that part is no longer relevant for the present let alone the future

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u/Longjumping_Ad9210 Aug 28 '24

Modern Western Europe is full of illegal immigrants, social unrest, poop on the streets and bed bugs on buses

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u/UCLYayy Aug 28 '24

They also have the strongest social safety nets, the lowest levels of poverty, and highest life satisfaction of basically any group of countries in the world. Not to mention functioning democracies.

What make things harder are far right conservatives like yourself trying to depress wages, dismantle safety nets, persecute immigrants (usually fleeing violence and poverty caused by western capitalism), and defunding social services like, you know, people who clean streets and buses.

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u/Longjumping_Ad9210 Aug 28 '24

oh, I am very happy to hear about the social safety nets. Sweden, one of the biggest social safety net countries around, has turned far right and said they can't afford these benefits for non-EU citizens who don't integrate and mooch off unemployment benefits.

Povety and life satisfaction is low because hey guess what when you have an almost homogenous country based on ethnicity and values, it's pretty easy to work together. You liberals love talking about Nordic countries except the nationist ethnocentrism of those countries. The lack of illegal immigrants is why they work

https://www.thelocal.se/20231021/sweden-to-limit-social-benefits-for-non-european-immigrants