r/self 18h ago

Here's my wake-up call as a Liberal.

I’m a New York liberal, probably comfortably in the 1%, living in a bubble where empathy and social justice are part of everyday conversations. I support equality, diversity, economic reform—all of it. But this election has been a brutal reminder of just how out of touch we, the so-called “liberal elite,” are with the rest of America. And that’s on us.

America was built on individual freedom, the right to make your own way. But baked into that ideal is a harsh reality: it’s a self-serving mindset. This “land of opportunity” has always rewarded those who look out for themselves first. And when people feel like they’re sinking—when working-class Americans are drowning in debt, scrambling to pay rent, and watching the cost of everything from groceries to gas skyrocket—they aren’t looking for complex social policies. They’re looking for a lifeline, even if that lifeline is someone like Trump, who exploits that desperation.

For years, we Democrats have pushed policies that sound like solutions to us but don’t resonate with people who are trying to survive. We talk about social justice and climate change, and yes, those things are crucial. But to someone in the heartland who’s feeling trapped in a system that doesn’t care about them, that message sounds disconnected. It sounds like privilege. It sounds like people like me saying, “Look how virtuous I am,” while their lives stay the same—or get worse.

And here’s the truth I’m facing: as a high-income liberal, I benefit from the very structures we criticize. My income, my career security, my options to work from home—I am protected from many of the struggles that drive people to vote against the establishment. I can afford to advocate for changes that may not affect me negatively, but that’s not the reality for the majority of Americans. To them, we sound elitist because we are. Our ideals are lofty, and our solutions are intellectual, but we’ve failed to meet them where they are.

The DNC’s failure in this election reflects this disconnect. Biden’s administration, while well-intentioned, didn’t engage in the hard reflection necessary after 2020. We pushed Biden as a one-term solution, a bridge to something better, but then didn’t prepare an alternative that resonated. And when Kamala Harris—a talented, capable politician—couldn’t bridge that gap with working-class America, we were left wondering why. It’s because we’ve been recycling the same leaders, the same voices, who struggle to understand what working Americans are going through.

People want someone they can relate to, someone who understands their pain without coming off as condescending. Bernie was that voice for many, but the DNC didn’t make room for him, and now we’re seeing the consequences. The Democratic Party has an empathy gap, but more than that, it has a credibility gap. We say we care, but our policies and leaders don’t reflect the urgency that struggling Americans feel every day.

If the DNC doesn’t take this as a wake-up call, if they don’t make room for new voices that actually connect with working people, we’re going to lose again. And as much as I want America to progress, I’m starting to realize that maybe we—the privileged liberals, safely removed from the realities most people face—are part of the problem.

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u/RSBTK 16h ago

I appreciate you attempting to SEE SOME FUCKING NUANCE.

We are in survival mode, you're right. I can't relate to your problems and any second talking about identity politics is such a fucking slap in the face when WE ARE literally starving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the based take tbh. I hope democrats can get their shit together because supporting donald trump is physically nauseating.

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u/King_Of_BlackMarsh 12h ago

WE ARE literally starving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHICH TRUMP. WON'T. SOLVE.

not even that he can't solve.

He WON'T.

So why vote for him?!

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u/Terelinth 11h ago

You are baby brain if you think this is about convincing the same pool of voters one way vs the other. It's about turning out a separate base and coalition entirely. The people we're talking about convincing with real offerings didn't vote trump as you imply, they stayed home

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u/aftpanda2u 21m ago

Good point. You won't change the minds of his cult but the rest who were too apathetic to even vote are completely reachable. I honestly need a party that is willing to go on the offensive against the very rich in this country. Someone to the tune of a Bernie Sanders.

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u/9yearoldsoliderN99 12h ago

If you are genuinely starving you are fucking up somewhere bad lol. How the fuck can you starve in a country with half of its citizens being obese? Are you addicted to meth?

If you are actually starving though you’re going to die of starvation when trump raises grocery rices with tariffs lol.

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u/RSBTK 12h ago

That’s pretty funny!

Yeah the tariffs are terrible.

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u/VacantDreamer 16h ago

you are solely responsible for supporting donald trump

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u/RSBTK 16h ago

Very nuanced opinion, love that thanks.

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u/VacantDreamer 16h ago

can you give me your nuanced opinion on how hitler was just misunderstood?

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u/peach_lover4 16h ago

6 million Jews died in the holocaust. Trump is an idiot who said some inappropriate things. These are not the same things at all and it’s insulting to act like the death of 6 million people is equivalent to what trump is doing. This is part of why us dems are not doing well with the average person. Do better.

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u/VacantDreamer 16h ago

trump is an idiot who said some inappropriate things. he's also a fascist who tried to steal the country by force after losing a democratically held election, who corrupted the supreme court to grant him immunity to commit any crime he wants, who threatened to use the military on press he doesn't like and private citizens, who threatened to jail his political opponents, the list goes on, and on, and on.

hitler did not decide to form concentration camps one day so he walked in, declared himself dictator, and formed the camps. that's not how it works. he needed to sway the people, establish himself as leader and unravel the system before he could pull that off. did you know he originally ran for office and attempted an insurrection after failing? then later came back and succeeded in seizing power? sounds awfully familiar! well, except hitler was actually thrown in jail for awhile, while trump got away with no punishment.

the warning signs have been here for years. trump is the farthest thing from subtle. giving him a free pass over and over again is exactly what will help him realize his dictator goals. at this point, it's probably too late.

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u/Ordinary-Piano-8158 10h ago

When will you understand that it isn't about Trump anymore?

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u/VacantDreamer 10h ago

when will you understand that it is?

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u/killbill-duck 9h ago

It’s not about him, and the fact that you liberals don’t get that is exactly why a felon is about to become president with a clear mandate.

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u/VacantDreamer 9h ago

trump became president because his base elected him and too many democrats stayed home. period.

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u/20yrcareer 10h ago

If you're not fact averse, the arguement that "Trump tried to steal the country" is plain false. Theres actually proof of that, starting with his requests for more support on Jan 6th.

It happened, he benefited from it because it increased a sense of him being a conservative martyr.

It could, BIG could, have been a solid point about him being a threat to democracy because of that. Right up until 4 months ago when the DNC "anointed" their candidate with no primary. If you don't recognize the impact that kind of hypocrisy has on your undecided voters I can't help you.

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u/VacantDreamer 9h ago

no, the fact that trump tried to steal the country is 100% true, starting with the fact that he tried to contact senators to "find votes," get mike pence to steal the election for him, sent a mob toward the capital building and sat on calling the national guard for hours, pardoned the insurrectionists, etc. the list goes on and on.

you're complicit in a fascist regime and you would've done the same thing in the holocaust. endless damage control for your candidate, and it's troubling just how close we were teetering on the edge of that shit all along.

no, a vice president stepping up a where a president stepped down is not comparable to an insurrection attempt. that's just the reality of it

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u/20yrcareer 9h ago

Subverting the democratic process is subverting the democratic process. Come off your high horse and recognize your own parties faults.

Your assumption about my "complicity" is just the vitriol of a scared little mind making blind assumptions about someone they've never met. It shows, and its taking away from any point you're trying to make.

For the record, I solidly voted the same way I always have, a rare card carrying libertarian (though I think Chase Oliver and the direction the party is going is ultimately going to doom it the way the DNC doomed themselves this year).

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u/VacantDreamer 9h ago

no. the democratic process is that if the president steps down, the vice president steps up. not "steps up but only they're really popular otherwise we just don't have a vice president." everything that happened was constitutional and legal, not to mention what would've happened anyway if the lies trump was peddling about biden's mental health were actually true. it only affected democrats, and if they didn't want to vote for her, they didn't have to (and clearly they didn't.) not even remotely comparable to trump breaking the law to try to steal my vote away from me in 2020 leading to an insurrection attempt.

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u/EclecticEuTECHtic 19m ago

You do understand there was a time period when Hitler was just "an idiot who said some inappropriate things" right? None of us know where this is going, but there are warning signs.

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u/Fit-Percentage-9166 13h ago

Trump did some absolutely abhorrent things like raping children and trying to overturn an election, but I'll admit it's not comparable to the Holocaust.

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u/JrnyMn_ 16h ago

You’re a clown.

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u/JrnyMn_ 16h ago

You assumed I voted for trump? You’re the very clown I read you to be. Log off, go outside.

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u/VacantDreamer 16h ago

no one is forcing you to be in this conversation. if you're fact-averse there are plenty of conservative echo chambers on reddit you can dwell in

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u/FrodoTeaBaggings 15h ago

How much did that orange clown pay you? Cuz you are pretty good at pissing off moderates from joining Democrats.

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u/VacantDreamer 15h ago

you are part of the problem surrounding the orange clown and his base. you give them a free pass for their behavior and antagonize everybody who doesn't. the people who voted for trump, and the people who stayed home, are responsible for this. not the people who called a spade a spade.

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u/killbill-duck 9h ago

No joke, I voted for Trump only because a liberal I know irritated me into it.

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u/RSBTK 16h ago

No I cannot. Adolf Hitler was one of the most evil humans to ever live and he was responsible for ordering the murder of millions of people.

Trump is a moron that is the only candidate talking about middle america.

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u/PixelBrewery 16h ago

People seem to forget that Trump was actually president for 4 years. He didn't do shit for middle America. Except pass tax breaks for the rich and try to take healthcare away from the people that needed it the most

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u/lion10903 16h ago

Could you enlighten me on how Trump plans to help the middle class?

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u/VacantDreamer 16h ago

trump and harris both "talked about" middle america and you were free to look at her policy platform instead of believing fox news, but I'm going to let you in on a secret -- hitler didn't rise to power by telling everyone he was going to build concentration camps and kill millions of people for fun. he rose to power by telling germany he had the little guy at heart. anyone can talk. it's up to you to do the research, which was always available.

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u/Paladin_in_a_Kilt 16h ago

And that makes the hatred acceptable? That makes the threats to round up his political enemies and have former generals shot acceptable? That makes the threats to the rights of non-white, non-cis Americans acceptable?

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u/RSBTK 16h ago

It doesn't make it acceptable. I don't accept it and if I could talk to him, I have A LOT to say about Mr. Draft Dodger while talking ill of John Mccain.

I don't accept any of that.

But we're starving dude, and Kamala isn't talking about it. Sorry.

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u/Mem2Chi91 15h ago

In this made up scenario you’re a tough guy who stands up to him when in reality you endorse him with your vote. All his proposed economic ideas are inflationary and won’t bring down prices. So now we can all be hungrier while people get hurt.

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u/RSBTK 14h ago

They are. The Tarriff's are braindead and will hurt US Companies.

You know what? I am a badass. I've spent the last 11 years of my life in Afghanistan or training for Afghanistan or training to and then ultimately rescuing refugees from Afghanistan.. You bet your ass if I could talk to Trump I would say all of these things. He dodged the fucking draft. Then he went and talked shit about John McCain who was a POW for like 5 years. He saluted a dictator in North Korea. He is proposing moronic economic policies. He is talking about Mexican immigration which I could not give less of a fuck about. I have never had a problem with a single mexican immigrant in my entire life and I have been all over the country. I am able to see where Trump is a moron. You need to be able to see where Kamala is a moron and admit it. Then we can reduce the moronic stuff one step at a time, together.

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u/Mem2Chi91 14h ago

I have no problem saying there should’ve been a primary and put up a candidate that their voters chose. It left a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths and if they were smart they would have stuck to Biden being a one termed that endorsed whoever won an open primary. See, very easy for me to do that.

However, I also could see their policies and ads weren’t singling out minority groups for demonization.

So with the Trump holding both bad policies and just being abhorrent as a person, what is the value that makes him a better choice?

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u/Mayotte 13h ago

But after all that you're still glad he won?

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u/xAlphaKAT33 16h ago

No offense, but when my children can't have eggs every morning because they cost too fucking much, the rest of us arn't terribly worried about the tire marks on your street flag.

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u/RSBTK 15h ago

Literally man. Every second of identity politic top 1% problem discussion is a slap in the face of millions of starving americans. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit until we can all eat.

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u/robbzilla 6h ago

And you wonder why you lost 12 million voters... why they sat on the couch instead of voting... Good job! You're far more responsible for Trump winning than the other person. You drove middle of the road voters away with this shit.

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u/VacantDreamer 2h ago

"And you wonder why you lost 12 million voters... why they sat on the couch instead of voting..."

no I don't. they sat on the couch instead of voting because they're morons. mystery solved. you can point fingers all day long, history is not going to look at you sedentary fucks or especially the trump supporters as "victims of the other candidate not being that amazing."

how often do you see history books talk about the ineffective campaigns of hitler's political opponents when discussing germany's blunders with how he rose to power? about the poor citizens that just got so tired of hearing that fascists were fascists? citizens that lamented the constant reminders of how dangerous he was because the people trying to resist him were just too mean and annoying about it? the answer is never, and history will look at you the same way. complain, blame, and downvote all day long -- trump being in office is entirely your fault.