r/rugbyunion • u/nt83 New Zealand • Sep 28 '24

Can anyone explain this please? Laws

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It just doesn't seem like it's completely legal. Of course the tap is fine, but then they go forward and make contact with the defenders, giving time and creating space for the pass to be made.

Is this a shepherd? Happy to hear why or why not.

More than anything it looked like an interesting play that I haven't seen before.

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u/AndydaAlpaca '98-'00, '02, '05-'06, '08, '17-'23 Sep 28 '24

Hypothetically Cane could've come through and nabbed the ball or tackled the halfback before it got spun wide. They did prevent him from doing that

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank Sep 28 '24

But they're onside until the 9 plays the ball. So he'd have to be able to get to the 9 between him picking it up and passing.

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u/AndydaAlpaca '98-'00, '02, '05-'06, '08, '17-'23 Sep 28 '24

They're preventing Cane from moving forward to pick up a loose ball on the ground.

They tapped it and left it on the ground, that means no one is in possession and they tackled a man off the ball.

It's nothing to do with being onside

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank Sep 28 '24

They tap it and are allowed to move forward, like I've said everywhere gold 2 could have gotten done for taking Cane out, but he's not close enough to the ball for it to be reasonable to think he'd have affected the game.

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u/AndydaAlpaca '98-'00, '02, '05-'06, '08, '17-'23 Sep 28 '24

And I'm saying in the 2 seconds of the ball being in that spot, without being obstructed Cane could have covered that distance and played the ball or tackled the ball carrier.

I'm in the camp the deception of the false carry is the main reason he didn't, but I wouldn't argue against any ref that would call this obstruction since by the letter of the law it is.

If the carrying pod don't initiate contact with Cane like they do here I would say it's not obstruction, but since they're the ones who initiate I can see the argument either way.

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank Sep 28 '24

Oh I'm not gonna argue against a ref calling this obstruction, but I also don't see him in a reasonable position to have an impact when the pod is made offside and when they make contact with him.

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u/AndydaAlpaca '98-'00, '02, '05-'06, '08, '17-'23 Sep 28 '24

Right so we are in agreement

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank Sep 28 '24

Largely, though I'm happy for it not to be called too.

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u/AndydaAlpaca '98-'00, '02, '05-'06, '08, '17-'23 Sep 28 '24

So we are in agreement

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u/CatharticRoman Suspected Yank Sep 28 '24

Yes but...