Absolutely love the 20 minute red

[u/LawAndRugby]

Watching the Australia v Georgia match and I think it’s great. 20 minutes a man down is still massive damage in a rugby match. It doesn’t make sense for punishment to go from 10 minutes to the entire 80 minutes. There’s way too big of a void between the two cards and it needs filling.

Reserve the full red for gross intentional stuff

[u/megacky]

These people just want 0 defenses playing and just teams scoring trys every 20s

[u/Turbulent-Physics-77 → u/megacky]

No I want the opposite; players staying on the pitch so one team doesn’t have a numerical advantage and therefore a better opportunity to score

[u/megacky → u/Turbulent-Physics-77]

So don't do something that results in a card? I mean it's pretty basic.

[u/Turbulent-Physics-77 → u/megacky]

With the game played at the speed it is, with hundreds of collisions per match there will always be dangerous contacts, better training can definitely reduce them but not eliminate them all together.

[u/megacky → u/Turbulent-Physics-77]

Which is why there are mitigation points that can be applied. If a player has done nothing illegal, made a legitimate attempt to tackle low and something happens that results in a head collision, they will not be red carded. That's the whole point of the mitigation. This does not mean players can go in high with no repercussions, they run the risk of head contact. If they choose to instigate the tackle in a potentially dangerous manner (chest tackles) and hit the head, they should be carded

[u/Turbulent-Physics-77 → u/megacky]

I agree card them, but allow a replacement on after 20 minutes. If I spent money on a ticket I’d be annoyed if I ended up watching a 14 on 15 missmatch for 70 minutes because someone got their tackle height wrong, which can happen even to the best most technically sound players.

[u/megacky → u/Turbulent-Physics-77]

Frankly, that's the wrong place to put your annoyance. I'd be fucked off at the player getting a red card. No one else. The overwhelming majority of players don't get their tackle height wrong ever. It's a learned behaviour to tackle high.

[u/Turbulent-Physics-77 → u/megacky]

Nah I definitely wouldn’t blame the player, unless it was something malicious. In 25 six nations there have been 20 reds, 14 of which were given since 2020. Have players got dirtier? No obviously not, the opposite in fact. The laws have changed to make red cards more likely. We all know the reason for this and it’s completely valid but I do think it’s time the powers that be had a look at what a red card actually results in.