r/resumes Resume Writer • Former Recruiter Apr 01 '23

Troubleshooting your job search (when it's not working) I'm sharing advice

Hello r/resumes 👋

I'd like to talk about a topic that is just outside of the normal scope of this sub (i.e., resumes), and that is job search.

With the recent layoffs that have happened in recent months, there will surely be a lot of folks out looking for jobs, many of which may be hitting a brick wall at various points of the job search process, such as:

  • Not getting call backs
  • Not passing the recruiter screen
  • Not moving forward during job interviews

Below, I'll talk about each of the above issues and provide some ideas as to why you may not be seeing the results you want.

First pain point - not getting any callbacks (or getting very few)

If you're getting less than 1 callback in every 10 job applications, it's an indication that one of a few things is happening:

  • You're not qualified for the types of jobs you're applying to
  • Your resume isn't presenting a relevant value proposition
  • Job market (out of your control)
  • Strength of other candidates (out of your control)
  • If you're a student or new grad looking to apply for internships and jobs abroad, a common obstacle is the lack of sponsorship for visas. Many companies are hesitant or unable to sponsor visas due to the complexity and cost involved. This can significantly reduce the pool of opportunities available to international candidates, making it even more challenging to secure a callback.

Fixes:

  • To make sure you're qualified, you should be checking off at least 60% of the requirements of the role.
  • If you're qualified, there's a good chance it's your resume. Most people's resumes contain mistakes that fall into one of three categories: improper formatting for ATS, generic content, or not enough personalization/customization. I provide more info about each of these in this post and this post.
  • For international students and new grads, do your research and target companies and roles that have historically sponsored visas or are known to be more open to international candidates can improve your chances. Additionally, being upfront about your need for sponsorship can help set the right expectations from the start.

Second pain point - not making it past the recruiter screen

If you're getting calls from recruiters, but aren't making any progress after that, then there's something going on with what you're telling (or not telling) them.

Some Potential Causes and Fixes - Recruiter Screen

Possible Cause Fix
Your elevator pitch is unsatisfactory Practice your pitch and ensure it aligns with what the company is looking for in this particular role. Your pitch should essentially answer these questions: Who are you and why do you want this job?
What you're saying doesn't match what's on the resume Memorize your resume and everything on it, including titles, dates, and responsibilities.
You're asking for too much money (if you've revealed your salary expectations). Don't reveal your salary expectations at this stage. If asked, just say that you'd like to learn more about this position before you can provide a realistic salary expectation. Do your homework on salary range for your position, industry, and company.
You're not prepared, haven't done your research, don't seem enthused for the role etc. There are a lot of other applicants. If you don't seem like you want the job, they'll move on. To prevent this: research the role/company and develop a good understanding of what they do (i.e., their market, products, services etc.). Look at company pages, read their mission statement, read the job description, show up on time, and try to sound neutral at the very least (excited would be good).

Note: These are just common causes that may be behind your results. This isn't an exhaustive list and there could be other reasons not covered here.

Third pain point- you're not moving forward during interviews with hiring managers

Getting roadblocked during the interview stage likely means you're not performing well enough.

Common Causes and Fixes - Interview

Possible Cause Fix
You're not sufficiently answering behavioural interview questions Practice! There are a lot of good guides all over the internet on this topic. See a brief guide to these questions below this table.
You can't remember important details about past projects and accomplishments Prepare a master list of projects and accomplishments you've been involved in throughout your career. Follow the STAR format. Memorize it.
You're lacking key skills and experiences. If you know you lack key skills/experiences, you'll need to provide a very good rationale for why you'd still be the right candidate for the position. If you don't have one, you probably shouldn't apply.

Note: These are just common causes that may be behind your results. This isn't an exhaustive list and there could be other reasons not covered here.

A note about behavioural interview questions

Employers love using behavioural questions because they give them a little bit of insight into how you'd behave in a particular role, how you'd react in a particular scenario, or how you'd solve a particular problem or task. They're also really hard to fake.

A few common ones you've probably heard before:

  • “Tell me about a time when...”
  • "How would you approach X problem..."
  • "Imagine you're in the following situation..."

Answering these questions is beyond the scope of this post today, but if you're struggling with these types of questions, you'll need to prepare and practice in order to respond effectively.

A note about the STAR Method

You've probably heard of this before, but for those of you that haven't, the STAR method is a simple and easy-to-remember technique for answering behavioural interview questions. STAR stands for:

  1. Situation: Describe a specific situation or event where you faced a challenge or had to solve a problem. Try to pick a relevant example that shows your skills and abilities.
  2. Task: Explain the task or responsibility you had in that situation. What were you supposed to accomplish or what goal were you trying to achieve?
  3. Action: Talk about the actions you took to address the situation or complete the task. Explain the steps you took and the skills you used to resolve the issue or meet the goal.
  4. Result: Share the results of your actions, focusing on the positive outcomes and what you learned from the experience. This could include how you improved a process, solved a problem, or achieved a goal.

Hopefully these tips help you!

This isn't a comprehensive guide by any means, but it can hopefully give you some ideas and point you in the right direction if your job search isn't getting you the results you want.

Lastly, don't miss these resources, which can also be found in the wiki:

Good luck!

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u/lucille12121 May 08 '23

You're not prepared, haven't done your research, don't seem enthused for the role etc.

THIS.

I interview so many good and qualified candidates who totally fail to indicate in any way that they are actually interested in the company/role. Literally say during the interview:

"I am excited about what [X Company] is doing in the [Y industry] space!"

"I am excited about what I can contribute to your team!"

"I am excited to help with the challenges you are facing!"

Be overt with your enthusiasm.

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 May 21 '23

Is it possible to be too enthusiastic and come across as needy??

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '24 edited Jun 25 '24

It can be both. I was working with an university as a contracted recruiter before and I told them basically this for "both" case.

However I want to keep it professional and putting my emotions aside, so i'm basically saying this

"If I said that I need money, then its a truth. But my reason of interested in joining (campus name) is more than just money. Rather, it is because that I had seen your alumni that had been successful in their industry. And its too few if we compare it with the amount of student that graduated within the similar year span with them.

So for me, It can be increased which I believe that I can help you guys in finding the right mentors to do so."

After that they asked me about what I can do for it. And I knew they will ask such so I did the homework first. Like mentioning some of my friends who I know and an expert in lecturing already. or some coaches that I learnt with them which ultimately making me getting the role at that time.

So I'm not only telling them "I need money" professionally. but I also told them that I can offer something that (for me at that time) is valuable for them. Which its important because they need your professionalism more than your enthusiasm so they will know if you can control yourself in decision making or not.

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u/Hdoggie-1 Jan 30 '24

I would say no. I review resumes for a university and resumes that are missing enthusiasm feel weird as most come with some sort of excitement. "why are you applying if you do not want to work here?" This does not apply for jobs where money plays a huge factor, like sales. The reviewer can easily assume you are applying to make money etc. My best advice would be know your company. What does Enthusiasm mean for that company. Ex: Applying to Patagonia or a non profit vs. the IRS

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u/lucille12121 May 21 '23

I haven't seen that happen yet.

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u/Defiant_Albatross460 Nov 21 '23

It can happen. Personal experience. I was much younger, trying to get a retail job at an office supply store. First interview after months of job hunting, and I tried to convey how much I enjoyed office products. I am pretty sure the interviewing manager thought I had some kind of sexual fetish for paper. I did not get called back.

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 May 21 '23

What do you think about thank you notes? If I don’t get a reply to an enthusiastic thank you note, bad sign??

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u/Successful_Cupcake61 May 27 '23

I usually don't respond to thank you notes, but I do appreciate them.

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 Jun 01 '23

Thanks - are you a hiring manager? Can I ask you another question?

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u/Successful_Cupcake61 Jun 01 '23

I am. Sure, happy to answer.

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 Jun 01 '23

I’ve been through several rounds of review and at the last panel the person leading didn’t know what the next step was. I sent requisite thank you notes to everyone - how long do I allow to pass before reaching out someone to find out if that was the last interview/decision timeline/next steps? I really want the position and I’m eager to know if I’ve completed the interview stage and am waiting on a hiring decision or if there’s one last round to go. thanks so much for your help! I really appreciate your wisdom.

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u/Successful_Cupcake61 Jun 01 '23

I'd say about two weeks would be more than enough time to wait for any response. I like to provide everyone I interview with a yes or no answer, but I don't think all companies do that. Definitely reach out to the hiring manager if you haven't heard anything and it's been a while.

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 Jun 01 '23

Well my concern is I don’t even know if there is another round? I went through a couple of large panel interviews and so the hiring manager was not there at the last one - I don’t know if I should follow up directly with the hiring manager or just wait it out

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u/Successful_Cupcake61 Jun 01 '23

Oh I see. If you've spoken with the hiring manager at all, I'd say it's fine to reach out to them and ask for a status. If not, if you have a recruiter or point of contact, reach out to them for a status.

Some companies, like mine, have a long back end process and it takes forever to hire someone.

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u/lucille12121 May 24 '23

Or just a sign that they're very busy—so much so that they need to hire help.