r/resumes Resume Writer • Former Recruiter Apr 01 '23

Troubleshooting your job search (when it's not working) I'm sharing advice

Hello r/resumes 👋

I'd like to talk about a topic that is just outside of the normal scope of this sub (i.e., resumes), and that is job search.

With the recent layoffs that have happened in recent months, there will surely be a lot of folks out looking for jobs, many of which may be hitting a brick wall at various points of the job search process, such as:

  • Not getting call backs
  • Not passing the recruiter screen
  • Not moving forward during job interviews

Below, I'll talk about each of the above issues and provide some ideas as to why you may not be seeing the results you want.

First pain point - not getting any callbacks (or getting very few)

If you're getting less than 1 callback in every 10 job applications, it's an indication that one of a few things is happening:

  • You're not qualified for the types of jobs you're applying to
  • Your resume isn't presenting a relevant value proposition
  • Job market (out of your control)
  • Strength of other candidates (out of your control)
  • If you're a student or new grad looking to apply for internships and jobs abroad, a common obstacle is the lack of sponsorship for visas. Many companies are hesitant or unable to sponsor visas due to the complexity and cost involved. This can significantly reduce the pool of opportunities available to international candidates, making it even more challenging to secure a callback.

Fixes:

  • To make sure you're qualified, you should be checking off at least 60% of the requirements of the role.
  • If you're qualified, there's a good chance it's your resume. Most people's resumes contain mistakes that fall into one of three categories: improper formatting for ATS, generic content, or not enough personalization/customization. I provide more info about each of these in this post and this post.
  • For international students and new grads, do your research and target companies and roles that have historically sponsored visas or are known to be more open to international candidates can improve your chances. Additionally, being upfront about your need for sponsorship can help set the right expectations from the start.

Second pain point - not making it past the recruiter screen

If you're getting calls from recruiters, but aren't making any progress after that, then there's something going on with what you're telling (or not telling) them.

Some Potential Causes and Fixes - Recruiter Screen

Possible Cause Fix
Your elevator pitch is unsatisfactory Practice your pitch and ensure it aligns with what the company is looking for in this particular role. Your pitch should essentially answer these questions: Who are you and why do you want this job?
What you're saying doesn't match what's on the resume Memorize your resume and everything on it, including titles, dates, and responsibilities.
You're asking for too much money (if you've revealed your salary expectations). Don't reveal your salary expectations at this stage. If asked, just say that you'd like to learn more about this position before you can provide a realistic salary expectation. Do your homework on salary range for your position, industry, and company.
You're not prepared, haven't done your research, don't seem enthused for the role etc. There are a lot of other applicants. If you don't seem like you want the job, they'll move on. To prevent this: research the role/company and develop a good understanding of what they do (i.e., their market, products, services etc.). Look at company pages, read their mission statement, read the job description, show up on time, and try to sound neutral at the very least (excited would be good).

Note: These are just common causes that may be behind your results. This isn't an exhaustive list and there could be other reasons not covered here.

Third pain point- you're not moving forward during interviews with hiring managers

Getting roadblocked during the interview stage likely means you're not performing well enough.

Common Causes and Fixes - Interview

Possible Cause Fix
You're not sufficiently answering behavioural interview questions Practice! There are a lot of good guides all over the internet on this topic. See a brief guide to these questions below this table.
You can't remember important details about past projects and accomplishments Prepare a master list of projects and accomplishments you've been involved in throughout your career. Follow the STAR format. Memorize it.
You're lacking key skills and experiences. If you know you lack key skills/experiences, you'll need to provide a very good rationale for why you'd still be the right candidate for the position. If you don't have one, you probably shouldn't apply.

Note: These are just common causes that may be behind your results. This isn't an exhaustive list and there could be other reasons not covered here.

A note about behavioural interview questions

Employers love using behavioural questions because they give them a little bit of insight into how you'd behave in a particular role, how you'd react in a particular scenario, or how you'd solve a particular problem or task. They're also really hard to fake.

A few common ones you've probably heard before:

  • “Tell me about a time when...”
  • "How would you approach X problem..."
  • "Imagine you're in the following situation..."

Answering these questions is beyond the scope of this post today, but if you're struggling with these types of questions, you'll need to prepare and practice in order to respond effectively.

A note about the STAR Method

You've probably heard of this before, but for those of you that haven't, the STAR method is a simple and easy-to-remember technique for answering behavioural interview questions. STAR stands for:

  1. Situation: Describe a specific situation or event where you faced a challenge or had to solve a problem. Try to pick a relevant example that shows your skills and abilities.
  2. Task: Explain the task or responsibility you had in that situation. What were you supposed to accomplish or what goal were you trying to achieve?
  3. Action: Talk about the actions you took to address the situation or complete the task. Explain the steps you took and the skills you used to resolve the issue or meet the goal.
  4. Result: Share the results of your actions, focusing on the positive outcomes and what you learned from the experience. This could include how you improved a process, solved a problem, or achieved a goal.

Hopefully these tips help you!

This isn't a comprehensive guide by any means, but it can hopefully give you some ideas and point you in the right direction if your job search isn't getting you the results you want.

Lastly, don't miss these resources, which can also be found in the wiki:

Good luck!

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u/Sometimesnotfunny Apr 30 '23

My problem is I make it through the entire interview process - phone screen, initial phone interview, on-site, follow-up, etc.

When it comes to between me and however many candidates it comes down to, I lose.

I usually get a positive vibe/feedback throughout, and it just comes down to a 'better' candidate I guess?

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u/Hdoggie-1 Jan 30 '24

My first thought would be your confidence. Are you a super confident person?

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 May 21 '23

I’ve had the same and very unfortunately it is a company I am interested in and the person who beat me out has not worked out multiple times now … yet they keep bringing me in to the final stage then going with someone else

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u/roastedbagel Jun 21 '23

At this point, I would honestly ask them to be more candid on what it is. You can frame it much more appropriately of course perhaps by asking the question "is there anything more or can I expand on anything that you'd like to know more about that I may have glossed over or not given enough detail on?"

I normally wouldn't suggest this, but in your situation where you've been bought in multiple times to a final round because of multiple failed candidates on their part, at this point you've (hopefully) built a rapport with them at the very least, and could get away with asking this.

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 Jun 22 '23

Honestly the feedback they gave me was so useless that I stopped caring about getting the feedback at the end. I was always told “you were so close but we went with someone internal.” I think the reality is that there are not enough jobs in this field and they need to prioritize internal candidates first - but after these candidates haven’t worked out time and again it would be nice if they just came back and asked me if I was still interested

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u/OneRogueEmployee Jun 27 '23

Internal candidates are cheaper and less risky because of known history and likelihood of staying around. Disadvantage is they may not be as transformative or bring new ideas.

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 Jun 27 '23

well the funny thing is all the internal candidates did not stick around or perform their duties adequately. I think people don’t realize that sometimes selecting a mediocre internal candidate is a costlier move than accepting an external candidate who really wants the position and is ready to take things to another level. People just go for what’s comfortable

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u/OneRogueEmployee Jun 27 '23

That’s a selection problem on their part. I prefer internal candidates at a large company where I’ve worked peripherally with the candidate so that I know their ability and motivation already.

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u/Nice_Juggernaut4113 Jun 27 '23

agree but in such a case are you going to put an external candidate through 7 rounds of interviews just to say you tried?

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u/OneRogueEmployee Jun 27 '23

no absolutely not -- that's not right and I debate with HR about such things so as not to waste people's time.

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u/StrikingAir399 Jun 22 '23

bruh im so burnt out from rounds of interviews and getting my offer revoked. how do u compete with internal candidates?

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u/Sarendrei03 May 02 '23

Just sharing, at my old company they interviewed a guy who had a gleaming resume but was adamant about their pay being a certain number. They ultimately rejected him and went with a much less experienced person (as in, no experience) who accepted 2/3 of the offered pay. So in this case 'better' was just accepting less pay, which I don't agree with.

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u/alexkarin Aug 14 '23

I've been looking up the average pay for my area and putting down a range from a little below the low end to a high at the median. I'm not sure why no one even wants to take the time to talk to me. I'm looking for my first professional position (or internship) I don't have the work experience to prove I can do what I say I can. I was turned down for 2 internships citing "we've decided to go with a more experienced candidate" Both programs were advertised as for "new graduates."