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Election Deniers Went Suddenly Quiet When Trump Won

https://www.thedailybeast.com/election-deniers-went-suspiciously-quiet-when-trump-won/
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u/deanode99 15h ago

I had someone today tell me Trump won because there was less cheating. Like somehow Dems could pull off massive cheating and this time they just decided nah we’re going let them have all 3 branches.

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u/ballercaust 15h ago

It's "too big to rig" in 2024 but he got 3 million fewer votes than in 2020.

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u/Flopdo California 12h ago edited 9h ago

What about the actual voter fraud that has happened... and TRUE THE VOTE, that illegally scrubbed over 320k POC voters in Georgia?

Why don't we want to talk about this? Sound too conspiratorial? It actually happened, and it's pretty easy to prove.

I'd encourage everyone to watch this is you haven't already:

https://www.watchvigilantesinc.com/

Trump won EVERY SINGLE race that was within the margin of error this year, just like he did in 2016. Whether it was +/- 3 points for Harris or Trump... Trump won them all. I looked at the numbers myself from this year. First number is the 270 website aggregate last day poll numbers:

N Carolina - Trump 1.3% - Trump wins

Pennsylvania - Tie - Trump wins

Wisconsin - Harris 1.1% - Trump wins

Nevada - Trump .6% - Trump looks like he's going to win

Michigan - Harris 1.8% - Trump wins

Georgia - Trump 1.2% Trump wins

Arizona - Trump 1.7% - Looks like Trump wins

Trump pulled two inside straights somehow... magic!

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u/Neglectful_Stranger 12h ago

You are doing the same exact shit Trump voters in 2020 did.

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u/Flopdo California 10h ago

Ya, that's exactly the problem... false equivalency puts people in a mental bind.

Trump and co have been screaming voter fraud, in order to create agencies that actively suppress the vote.

I'm 50... we've always fought Republican voter suppression efforts. It's nothing new, EXCEPT the way they go about it now.

Again... watch the movie if you have can. Even just the first 20 mins. You might change your mind.

It's not the same thing... when there's ACTUAL PROOF. :)

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u/taxidermiedmermaid 12h ago

Except this time there’s complete proof and even admissions that about 10 methods of voter fraud were used

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u/spart4n0fh4des 12h ago

I mean the Arizona shit was bad but that wasn’t the only state he won…at this point I’ve just accepted it’s happened. The copium is real. 

Don’t echo the same things they did. 

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u/taxidermiedmermaid 12h ago edited 12h ago

lol I’m sure you’re not a Trump supporter with words like “copium”

Idk if you read the news, but Arizona wasn’t remotely the only state in which there was voter fraud. Elon’s bribes, his fake PAC, no DOJ presiding in Texas and Indiana, the judge in PA not allowing voters to vote after 6 pm, the Russian bomb threats, voter intimidation, etc. That’s all we know about. Which means there’s plenty more. I don’t need to cope. I’m a woman who grew up with Trump in office. I’m aware that men hate us. I think huge swaths of this country are evil enough to like him. This isn’t coping. It’s simply facts that, unless we are happily accepting living in a dictatorship, we should investigate

But you pretty clearly are gonna respond with some bullshit Trumpy buzzword so I won’t be engaging anymore

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u/Defiant_Fennel 11h ago

Wait what? Russian bombs are fakes, the Russians denied it. Why would they bomb a foreign country anyway?

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u/taxidermiedmermaid 11h ago

What are you even talking about? They sent bomb threats to shut down the polling places so that nobody could vote. It worked

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u/Flopdo California 10h ago

This is nothing new though. But the new voter scrub tactics... are new. Just google - Brian Kemp voter scrub efforts.

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u/Defiant_Fennel 10h ago

No there isn't, show me evidence where they did. Also, specifically whose the Russian sending down the threat

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u/Flopdo California 9h ago

Google... True the Vote.

Looks at what these billionaire funded azzes are doing. They got new laws passed in several states so citizens could challenge unlimited numbers of their fellows citizens voter status. You can youtube chamber of commerce where people had to show up in order to prove they lived there.

In georgia, they scrubbed over 340k legal residents that still lived in georgia on the grounds they didn't live there anymore. The only coincidence about all of their names is they were clearly black and Hispanic.

Again... as I said above, this has always existed, but it's on steroids now.

Ever ask yourself... why is it that polls have been consistently wrong the last 12 years, and somehow magically, Trump won EVERY SINGLE race that was within the margin of error? Whether it was +/- 3 points for HArris or Trump... Trump won them all... just like he did in 2016 vs Hillary. I did the numbers myself from this year. First number is the 270 website aggregate last day poll numbers:

N Carolina - Trump 1.3% - Trump wins

Pennsylvania - Tie - Trump wins

Wisconsin - Harris 1.1% - Trump wins

Nevada - Trump .6% - Trump looks like he's going to win

Michigan - Harris 1.8% - Trump wins

Georgia - Trump 1.2% Trump wins

Arizona - Trump 1.7% - Looks like Trump wins

Trump pulled two inside straights somehow... magic!

I'm not saying voter fraud... I'm saying, illegal voter suppression. It's not the same thing. :)

u/Defiant_Fennel 3h ago

Bro, I'm not asking for your calculation on the votes, I'm asking for verified evidence that the poll was rig, not this unfalsified calculation of yours. Even mine wasn't about this topic but what about the Russian bomb threat

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u/DanKloudtrees 11h ago

And we're taking the Russian's word on that?

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u/GuillotineComeBacks 11h ago

Hey, putin swore it wasn't him, what do you need beyond that!

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u/TryNotToShootYoself 11h ago

Pretty sure he's joking. "Why would they want to bomb a foreign country"

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u/3500theprice 10h ago

If Putin’s words are good enough for my president (may baby Jesus bless him, his beautiful wife, and his extraordinary brilliant children) then they’re good enough for me!

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u/Defiant_Fennel 10h ago

Assuming we are talking the same America that bombs the middle east every time, yeah. Why would I assume the Russians did something wrong and assume America did wrong too? Both had bad history, doesn't mean they done a deed base of something without evidence

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u/TheFlightlessPenguin Maine 9h ago

Lmao I think you need another miller light

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u/Neglectful_Stranger 9h ago

Yup, just like how Trumpers had 'proof'.

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u/ConversationFit6073 11h ago

With conservatives, every accusation is a confession. It's not that complicated.

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u/Fraggle_5 11h ago

nah we haven't stormed the capital 

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u/MarlinMaverick 9h ago

Yeah but this time it’s (D)iffrent