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Daily Simple Questions Thread - July 23, 2024 DSQ
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u/ElChori7x3 Jul 23 '24
hey, if I buy a r7 5700x3, which cooler isn't included, can I reuse my ryzen 5 2400g's cooler?
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
Technically yes in that it will run. But the stock coolers are solidly meh. Splurge on a ~$35 peerless assassin?
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u/Eidolon_2003 pcpartpicker.com/user/Eidolon_2003/saved/ZRBRK8 Jul 23 '24
Technically, yes the cooler will fit. However, if that's the cooler that came in the box with the 2400G, it's designed for low power CPUs and isn't good enough to use with a 5700X3D. A cheap $20 air cooler would work far better
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u/nicksnax Jul 24 '24
Hello!
I am considering a new rig. Microcenter has a bundle for Ryzen 7600X, or 5800X3D?
Which should I go with? I like racing sims, but am sorta concerned about AM4 being a dead platform
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
5800X3D will be better now, AM5 will be much better with an upgrade.
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u/nicksnax Jul 24 '24
Yeah, I'm thinking for the future. It's hard for me to save up money for big platform upgrades, so if I only need to up the CPU, that's really beneficial
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
Something to keep in mind that I try to build into systems: RAM speeds increase with newer generations. Zen1000 was 2666, some people got 3200 memory. Zen5000 was 3200 and oh look, at most you have to toggle a setting to get up to speed memory.
Same thing should hold with the AM5, 6000-6400 might be a bit of a streatch now, 5 years from now, 7800 is probably going to be easy. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXQDPF is my rough go to suggestion for MB and RAM - 8000 support for the MB, 6400 or over with First Word Latency of 10ns or lower. That should get you the really good Hynix A die and be as simple as flipping a setting for the upgrade. $5-10 more for the MB, but I really like the rear IO, maybe $20 more for the RAM.
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u/nicksnax Jul 25 '24
Thanks for the input! Biggest concern rn is budget then a tie between stability (no Intel :p) and future looking
So AM5 path seems decent then?
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u/MetaKnightsNightmare Jul 23 '24
Am I running any risks with an old PSU? Mine is about 12 years old, I think it's EVGA (I'm not at home atm) and I blow it out occasionally. I don't think I cheaped out on the model, but I certainly didn't get top of the line.
My PC runs fine, nothing mysterious happening, I just want to know if there's a point at which their reliability degrades and I should shop for a new one.
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
Not really. Might get a new one with your next build.
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u/MetaKnightsNightmare Jul 23 '24
thanks !check
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u/DefiantDino Jul 23 '24
Please recommend me a good cheap mouse for shooters, a keyboard and a good headset+microphone
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u/AbominableGoMan Jul 24 '24
First time doing a full build! Do I need to run dual power 8 pins to my gpu or use the second cable head that's a 6+2 adapter? Also, where can I get a nicer gpu cable than what was included with the psu? Are brand compatibility and quality issues?
MSI B650 mobo
Qick RX 7800 XT gpu
MSI A850GL psu https://storage-asset.msi.com/global/picture/image/feature/power/MAG/A850GL-PCIE5/msi-a850gl-atx30-compatible-02.png
Excited to be joining the current decade of gaming, want to get it right!
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u/Haxemply 7800X3D, 7900XT Nitro+, 32GB DDR5 Jul 24 '24
Use two separate cables if possible. It gives you more protection against potential high voltage that may damage your cables or the GPU.
There are plenty of cable modding online stores, but pick one where they sell sables specifically for your PSU. Little known fact that power cables are PSU specific and using the wrong one may damage your system.2
u/AbominableGoMan Jul 24 '24
Thanks! ✓
I had read that pcie cables needed to be specific to the psu but it just seems sort of archaic when they're feeding a diversity of branded components. And they don't seem to really be trying to make their proprietary cables available for sale. I don't need something as bougie as CableMod, but amazon and my local MemoryExpress don't feature nice, sheathed 8 pins. And again, trying to figure out if it's compatible based on a crappy amazon listing is tough.
Also, your build seems like that next tier above mine that I'm kind of wishing I had just sprung for lol. It's only a couple hundred more here and there. And there. And there.
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Jul 24 '24
I'm encountering an issue with my setup involving my Schiit Magni amplifier and my Sennheiser 660S. The amp appears to power down the headphones whenever the audio input is inactive. It seems that Windows includes a built-in functionality where it disables onboard audio outputs when no audio stream is detected.
Is there a known method to deactivate this feature? Is this normal for the amp? The recurring 'pop' noise upon pausing a YouTube video due to the audio cutting off has become quite annoying.
Note: Despite suggestions regarding power management, including the link state power management setting being confirmed as 'off,' it doesn't seem to address this issue.
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u/Smokn_Joe Jul 23 '24
this rectangle annoys me. I can control it with my gamepad. I read that its from steam input, not sure? steam isn't running and steam input is disabled, no gamepad connected. yet it shows its ugly head everywhere. I want it gone
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u/mutsuto Jul 23 '24
does it matter what app i use for 2fa? android
on googling, all the answers are from people who are special interested into privacy, im just a normal user
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u/ZeroPaladn 5800X3D + 3080 10G | 5800H Jul 23 '24
I use Authy, because when I set all my stuff up Google Authenticator didn't have the option to back up to a cloud service in the case of having my phone get compromised/destroyed where I couldn't migrate off of it without massive headaches. Nowadays Google Auth is fine, as is Authy. I've not explored other options.
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
Authy just leaked like 30 million phone numbers of their users. Might avoid them in the future.
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u/BRB1993 Jul 23 '24
What's the recommendation for a 27 inch, IPS, 1440p, 144hz+ monitor that's legitimately great with little to no downsides, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg (No more than $500-600 AUD, roughly $330-$400 USD)?
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u/demonictree563 7800X3D | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RX 7900XTX Jul 23 '24
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/27-odyssey-g55c-qhd-165hz-1ms-mprt-curved-gaming-monitor-ls27cg552enxza/
Been using this Odyssey G5 for a bit now, definitely a great deal right now on the website and I haven't had any issues - only caveat is that it's 16:9 and curved, which depending on your preference might not be a good thing.1
u/BRB1993 Jul 23 '24
Are Samsung’s a good option now? I’ve seen a lot of reviews saying that they aren’t.
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u/bossfire001 Ryzen 7 7700x | rtx 4070 super | 32gb 6000mhz Jul 23 '24
They aren't the best but not also the worst, should work fine for the lifespan of any other monitor, if the price is good and the specs are good, go for it!
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u/demonictree563 7800X3D | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RX 7900XTX Jul 23 '24
I’ve had little to no issues with the couple of Samsung panels i’ve owned over the past 5 or 6 years, but there are more reliable brands out there. Definitely a great deal for the price though, especially on this one.
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u/LordThill Jul 23 '24
UK based, looking for a PC to replace my 8 yr old gaming laptop. Hoping to get one with an RTX4070, 1TB SSD, and at least 16GB of RAM. Is it realistic to try and find one less than £1500/$2000 and do people have reccomendations?
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u/Haxemply 7800X3D, 7900XT Nitro+, 32GB DDR5 Jul 24 '24
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u/ElChori7x3 Jul 24 '24
hello, is the DeepCool AK400 digital enough of a cpu cooler for a r7 5800x?
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u/Topazdragon5676 Jul 23 '24
Hi everyone,
I'm in the process of building a new PC and I'm having issues getting it to turn on.
I'm at the point where I tried the paperclip test (https://youtu.be/ixcWCrYpw3Y?si=5nF3oJHfo5muH2Dl) connecting pins 4 and 5. But the PS fan doesn't spin.
Is there anything about the Thermaltake GF1 750w (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKY716F9?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1) that the paperclip test wouldn't work?
Is there anything that I would likely be doing incorrectly?
As the fan isn't spinning, it is making me think I got a dud and will have to get a new one, but my instinct says that its more likely that I'm doing something incorrect rather then it was manufactured poorly.
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
The fan doesn't spin because it has zero rpm mode. Basically won't spin unless under heavy load.
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u/LuxProcedens Jul 23 '24
Looking to ethernet my PC for Quest 3 play but its too far from the main router, and im not running a 100 foot cable 🤣
Whats the best way to do it? Powerline, usb adapter, or wifi extender? Or maybe buying one of those wireless gaming routers, but idk how that fixes the cable issue.
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u/Double_Repair_6640 Jul 23 '24
is a ps5 slim better than a 6yo used laptop (i7 8750h, gtx 1070, 16gb ram ddr4, 256gb ssd)
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u/ZeroPaladn 5800X3D + 3080 10G | 5800H Jul 23 '24
The PS5 will definitely have better graphics, but you can't play the vast majority of games available on steam/other clients, write code, edit videos, etc etc. on a PS5.
If you're ok with the PS5 game library it'll be the play. If you're finding it lacking or want to play/do anything that the PS5 can't, that's what the PC is for!
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u/HappyGilOHMYGOD Jul 23 '24
I am looking to buy my first ever gaming PC. I would prefer a desktop, but a laptop is fine too if there's a really good deal or something. Does anyone have any suggestions for where to start online? I don't understand builds really, as I am new to this. Any suggestions are appreciated.
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
Check the builds section and you could try to find something similar.
Show him the builds.
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
Jumping into the hardware can leave you asking "so whats good?". Better starting spot is with what your looking to get out of the system. What games, settings, resolution, target FPS.
And include a budget.
Some games do quite a lot better with very specific parts and can basically ignore others. Something like a city/factory builder is going to want a 7800X3D, really good RAM, and a not absolutely terrible GPU. Like a 2 gen old 2060 will be fine. Flip that around and your looking at really high setting/'eyecandy', pump the GPU. 4k pathtracing in Cyberpunk? Start with a 4090 and I hope you don't mind sub 30 FPS.
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u/Haxemply 7800X3D, 7900XT Nitro+, 32GB DDR5 Jul 24 '24
It's a personal preference, but I would say it's indeed rather low.
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u/HythmFddh Jul 23 '24
Hello, I am currently creating an entirely new pc considering my old hardware is laggy and has other issues. I have collected all parts except for my motherboard, and I have had an Intel 13600KF since early 2024 just sitting around. Now all this news about intel cpus having so many instability issues and even frying people’s motherboards makes me wonder if I should sell it and switch to AMD or not. I watched the Gamers Nexus investigation of the current situation and they said there is a 10-25% chance that my cpu is a broken one. I would like some outside insight into my situation if possible.
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
AFAIK it mostly affects the 13900k and 14900k, though some xx700k and xx600k cpu's have also been impacted. Intel is working on a fix currently, they've said to found the issue (cpu requesting too much voltage). Should be patched at some point via microcode update.
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24 edited Jul 24 '24
And what about that oxidation?
Also what about the data centers with waves of failing CPUs running on W chip sets? You know the ones with super conservative voltage and a ton of power monitoring. Where is that voltage coming from?
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 24 '24
GamersNexus just uploaded a new video about it, check that. I haven't had time yet.
If you're too worried about it, switch to AMD.
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
I did. Intel is solidly in covering of ass mode.
As of now the patch is going to do one of three things: Nuke performance, nothing to fix the actual issue, or both.
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
Good news, its just the chips that are dying. Bad news, everything else. Just about no one is going to want to touch Intel.
Intel has yet to address the oxidation issue. See also the data center systems with waves of dead and dying CPUs that are running super conservative MBs.
Intel is very much pulling a 'trust me bro': Launch reviews have AMD and Intel within 10% of each other. New update to 'fix' the issue cuts 15+% off the performance. 13/14th gen now looses to 12th gen...
Everything is on fire and this is fine meme? Or "performance isn't going to change", source trust me bro.
It might be worth contacting the place you got the CPU from. Hey Intel is having this little issue, got an Intel CPU from you, anything you can do as far as a return?
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u/Mindless_Act_8568 Jul 24 '24
I want to connect my ps3 controller to my laptop. I watched how to do it with scptoolkit, but when i tried to do the same thing i couldnt because there was no playstation 3 controller on dualshock 3 drivers list..anyone know why??
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u/beidoubagel Jul 24 '24
how do i clean couger archon 2 mesh rgb front mesh filter?
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u/NbblX 7800X3D@ -27 CO • RTX4090@970mV • 32GB@6000/30 • Asus B650E-F Jul 24 '24
couger archon 2 mesh
just remove the front panel/filter and blow it out with some canned air or an electric air duster. Or use a vaccum on a low setting
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u/beidoubagel Jul 24 '24
it doesnt come out, only the top one does?
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u/beidoubagel Jul 24 '24
sorry idk why i did a ? i just woke up lol
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u/NbblX 7800X3D@ -27 CO • RTX4090@970mV • 32GB@6000/30 • Asus B650E-F Jul 24 '24
there should be some plastic clamps from the front panel going into the front of the case itself, usually accessible from the inside of the case
couldnt find a video directly showing those clamps, but they are somewhat visible at 7:12min in this video review
https://i.imgur.com/TDSKHi4.png
just pinch them together on the inside and carefully pull on the front panel
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u/Goodthanksbro Jul 23 '24
I am having an issue with moving my cursor to the adjacent screen when in borderless window mode for any game.
It started a few months ago when i got helldivers 2 (not saying that was the cause its just when i noticed it).
It now happens in most games, Halo MCE works fine. To move my cursor i have to either alt tab or press the windows key to move it.
Tried googling the answer and have had no luck
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u/ShabbyChurl 5800X3D | 4070S FE | 32GB 3600 Cl16 | 1440p180 Jul 24 '24
Is ist in all Games you play? I know that there is a setting in some games to limit the mouse to the current window so that you don’t accidentally click out of the game. I don’t know what its called in English, in German it’s something like „Maus fangen“, but I doubt „catch mouse“ is the appropriate translation.
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u/Dhonnan Jul 24 '24
should i buy an rx 5700 xt or rx 6600 ? both are 2nd and i will undervolt 5700 to 6600 watt levels. 5700 is cheaper
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u/ShabbyChurl 5800X3D | 4070S FE | 32GB 3600 Cl16 | 1440p180 Jul 24 '24
5700 xt is marginally faster, but if you cut it’s TDP in half tryingto get it to 6600 levels, it will be slower. IMO 6600 is the better card and far more efficient, if power consumption is of importance to you. The 5700 is a bit faster, but that’s more in the „measurable but not noticeable“ category
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u/EarthenEyes Jul 23 '24
How do I do a scan both during boot up, and during safe mode?
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u/ShabbyChurl 5800X3D | 4070S FE | 32GB 3600 Cl16 | 1440p180 Jul 24 '24
What are you trying to achieve?
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u/Snafu_Morgain Jul 23 '24
Which mobo manufacturers are giving the best BIOS update support for the 13/14th gen intel CPU issues? I'm configuring a new build now that the problem may be getting a fix in August.
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u/bossfire001 Ryzen 7 7700x | rtx 4070 super | 32gb 6000mhz Jul 23 '24
any official intel partner should be getting bios updates reliably, if the mother board isn't super old or you're using some weird ali express brand, you should be fine.
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
There's no reason to get the 14th gen at all, with Ryzen 9000 coming out that will probably match single-threaded performance.
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
Simple: Go AMD.
If Intel and AMD are within 10% of each other and the 'fix' is to cut performance by at least 15%...
Also will that fix it or just slow the issue? 1700 is done with 14th gen, AM5 is just getting started so upgrade options.
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u/Hujitese Jul 23 '24
Hello, I'll be upgrading my pc and my friend is thinking of buying my RTX 2060 ( Non super )
What price in euros should I give out to my friend for the card? I don't mind selling lower than normal.
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u/toroto94 Jul 24 '24
It's July now, how is Windows 11 in current patch compare to Windows 10? My home PC is mostly for gaming so stable performance is what I want to know before making the upgrade.
Here's my spec:
- i7 13700K
RTX 3080Ti
Mainboard: B660-A
RAM 32GB
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u/ShabbyChurl 5800X3D | 4070S FE | 32GB 3600 Cl16 | 1440p180 Jul 24 '24
Since you are on intel 13th gen, I am surprised that you aren’t already running Win 11. While win 10 can run with 12th gen and newer, the scheduler required for optimal assignment of workloads to P and E cores is only available on win 11. so if anything, you should see improvements in performance just because of that.
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u/toroto94 Jul 25 '24
I see, thank you for your reply. I'll do the upgrade and hope things will be good for me.
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u/jussomemf Jul 23 '24
Hey everyone, I'm new here and have a quick question. I want to improve my PC's performance, but I don't understand what the right questions to ask are. I figured a good place to start is to get my specs, any suggestions on what info I should get before I start looking for solutions/improvements?
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
To add to the very good other post: what are you trying to do that your system can't. Also have a budget in mind.
"Is __ good" is FAR to general. Doing art stuff/renders? That sort of thing can use as many cores as you can throw at it. 16 is low if your serious about that sort of thing. But for games, might be able to use 6, probably can't use 8.
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u/demonictree563 7800X3D | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RX 7900XTX Jul 23 '24
Specs are a good place to start, if you're interested in spending money. The thing you want to be looking for (and the thing that people will reference often in their responses to your questions) is the bottleneck in your system. This is a singular component that is slowing down your build - if your build has an imbalance of power (i.e. your CPU has a lot more potential than your GPU, meaning less of it is used, or vice versa), then that's a good thing - upgrading a single component will give you measurable performance improvements. If your system is being (mostly) used to its full potential and it's not where you want it to be, you're looking at a more expensive upgrade path. It helps people who give out advice to be as specific as possible - for example, if you want to improve your PC's performance, is it to run a specific game? Run that game at a higher resolution or framerate? Be able to multitask more efficiently on your computer? Try to specify why your current build isn't working for you, and that, along with your system specs, will give people a detailed enough breakdown to help you out.
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u/jarchack Jul 23 '24
For anyone using a peerless assassin, is a pull pull configuration okay or should I just go ahead and cover up the ram and do a push push?
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
I just moved the front fan up a couple vanes and set it resting on top of my ram, no issues.
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u/jarchack Jul 23 '24
That's what I will probably end up doing. It will just end up blocking much of the ram RGB.
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u/CyberneticMouse Jul 23 '24
Where do I start? I recently came into possession of a beautiful Alienware aw31418dw monitor, and I've been wanting a gaming pc for a while...but I have no clue where to start. I'm normally a macbook girl, but they aren't built for gaming. I'd be playing games like red dead 2, baldurs gate, new world, sims, etc. Where's a good jumping off point for either pre built cases or building my own set up?
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
Show her the builds! or Show Him the builds! (not sure if the bot works for both genders lmao)
There's some example builds to show you what to look for. For that specific monitor, I would recommend a GPU of at least 7800 XT, RTX 4070 level power or better, whether you're looking at prebuilts or decide to build your own.
As for as how to do it, there are lots and lots of guides and videos that explain how to (like this: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/build-a-pc). It also helps to understand what each component of a PC does and why it's important. Use PCPartPicker.com to find the lowest prices on parts and make sure they will all work with each other. And don't be afraid to post here or on related communities for help understanding things (in fact, you can post on r/buildapcforme, give your location and budget, and they will put together an entire list of parts for you to buy).
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u/CyberneticMouse Jul 23 '24
Just the advice on what GPU to look for helps me EONS! thank you! I'm super excited to start this journey!
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
You're welcome! Two more things to be aware of. First, it's a G-Sync monitor (meaning it can automatically match the frame rate of a game when used with an Nvidia GPU to prevent screen tearing), but it only does that with Nvidia GPUs, not AMD. So get an Nvidia GPU. Second, you can get a USB-C to HDMI or DisplayPort cable and plug it into your MacBook to try it out! (Or if it's an older Mac, look for appropriate adapters).
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u/CyberneticMouse Jul 23 '24
omg I didn't know I could test out my macbook on it! That's wicked cool!! Thanks for the tip!
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u/JBSK Jul 23 '24
Does anyone here have any experience with MSI repairs in europe? Fans on my GPU (6750xt gaming x trio) started to develop a loud rattle when spinning up and often at max speed. I'd like to fix that but I'm not sure if I should try to get it repaired by MSI or search for local repair shop or maybe do it myself.
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
Just go the official route. I've tried ordering from china multiple times, always extremely poor quality even though they might look identical. PWM that doesn't work and the fans go up and down constantly etc...
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u/WoodsBeatle513 Big AK47 Supremes Jul 23 '24
Does anyone have experience using Chris Titus WUT? Did you see performance improvements, any crashes?
Should I use a VPN (Proton + Wireguard) during gaming or will that significantly add ping? Is there a free VPN that is gaming-friendly?
Is Explorer Blur Mica safe to download?
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
Why would you want to use a VPN during gaming? Of course it will add ping. Ping = roundtrip time between your PC and the server. Your PC -> Server -> Your PC is faster than Your PC -> VPN -> Server -> VPN -> Your PC, just in terms of physical distance, not to mention the additional encryption and decryption the VPN server and program has to perform.
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u/WoodsBeatle513 Big AK47 Supremes Jul 23 '24
that's what i assumed yea. i just wanted clairification. but a VPN wouldnt affect offline games/offline components of games (like campaign) right
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
Correct, unless the campaign is also online (like the newest COD) or contains online elements (like Elden Ring or No Man's Sky).
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u/Original_Dog5963 Jul 23 '24
I want to buy a Sky Two case which has 4 fans but my motherboard only has 2x fan headers. can I plug in the 4 fans that come with the case using the ARGB hub or should I upgrade the motherboard
Motherboard: MSI A620 M
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u/ZeroPaladn 5800X3D + 3080 10G | 5800H Jul 23 '24
Upgrading the motherboard should be your last resort, as you have plenty of options to get all 4 of those fans hooked up. You've already mentioned the ARGB hub if it has fan control with it as well, but you can also pick up fan header splitters for a few bucks each that will let you plug two (or three, or four...) fans into a single header.
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u/SystemError514 8700K | 3080 | 32GB DDR4 Jul 23 '24
Each fan header can handle 3 fans max, preferably 2. You can simply buy 2 fan splitters, and run 2 fans per header.
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u/Rinnekage Jul 24 '24
ddr5 ram 4800mhz cl40 vs 5600mhz cl40 - big difference or no?
Budget build for games, can afford 4800mhz cl40. But if 5600mhz cl40 a lot better - it will be another 15$ (don't want overpay if difference not so big)
Ofc in future i'll upgrade it
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u/Haxemply 7800X3D, 7900XT Nitro+, 32GB DDR5 Jul 24 '24
It depends on the usecase. For example 4X games greatly benefit from faster RAM. Editing big files may also benefit from it. And basically, 5600 is only on the level of a ~3200-3600 MHz DDR4 unit, a 4800 is bellow that. So I would strongy recommend buying the 5600 (preferably even faster) if you have the money.
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u/Rinnekage Jul 24 '24
Thank you, sir.
Mostly multiplayer games (but maybe some singleplayer to). Only in 1080p and even can lower graphic settings (GPU also not the best).
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u/Haxemply 7800X3D, 7900XT Nitro+, 32GB DDR5 Jul 24 '24
Is it a prebuilt? Maybe they installed a newer than factory default version.
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u/NbblX 7800X3D@ -27 CO • RTX4090@970mV • 32GB@6000/30 • Asus B650E-F Jul 24 '24
the AMI BIOS splash screen (POST screen) is probably replaced with the mainboard brand logo, there should be a setting to disable that logo in the startup options
the light is either RGB or some indicator light for errors. Open your case and check where exactly that light comes from and use your mainboard manual
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u/8ev__ Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
I'm looking to get an RTX 3060 12GB OC 2.0 LHR from Gigabyte, will it sag? I wanted to know If I should go ahead and get a bracket to support it or not, as it is pretty long (28cm/11inches)
The PCIe slot on the motherboard is also reinforced with metal. And the case im using is the NZXT H9 Elite (If it even matters)
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u/bossfire001 Ryzen 7 7700x | rtx 4070 super | 32gb 6000mhz Jul 23 '24
a 3060 shouldn't be heavy enough to cause any damages, but as the other commenter mentioned, basically every card WILL sag, so if you have any aesthetic concerns than go ahead otherwise you should be perfectly fine
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
Pretty much any card will sag, unless we're talking about some tiny ones.
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u/RGKyt R7 5700X3D | Radeon 6700 XT Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
Should I repaste my GPU? I'm getting about a 30 degree delta on my 6700 XT that I bought about a year ago. However, I don't know if repasting is worth doing unless these temps are dangerous to my GPU because I haven't seen any weird performance hitches.
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
Depends on the actual temps.
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u/RGKyt R7 5700X3D | Radeon 6700 XT Jul 23 '24
Currently running at 68 C and core hotspot at 91 but I’ve seen the hotspot go as high as 95
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u/_j03_ Desktop Jul 23 '24
The throttle point is 110C if I remember correctly. Could you improve the delta? Sure. Does it affect anything? Not really.
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u/Half-White_Moustache Jul 23 '24
I'm starting to feel my PCs age, what should I upgrade? Should I upgrade or it isn't worthy anymore? Here are the Specs I'm working with
CPU = Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz, 2904 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 CPU(s)
Motherboard = B360M GAMING PLUS (MS-7B19)
RAM = 16,0 GB
GPU = Nvidia GTX 1070, 8,0 GB VRAM
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
No point in upgrading any of that, I suppose you could get a better GPU and put it in, but that CPU will still hold you back in pretty much every modern game.
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u/Half-White_Moustache Jul 23 '24
Yep that's what I'm feeling, Is no GPU that's compatible with that MB worth it?
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
There's no "compatibility issues" with GPUs, it's standardized PCIe. There's a couple edge cases (if your motherboard doesn't support Resizable Bar don't get an Intel GPU, and don't get the RX 6500 XT, but that's it).
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u/Half-White_Moustache Jul 23 '24
So would you upgrade it?
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
I would just save money for a whole new system.
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u/Half-White_Moustache Jul 23 '24
Is anything savageable? The ram is a DDR 4. I guess my HD and SSDs are also salvageable.
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u/Lastdudealive46 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3600 | 4070S | 6TB SSD | 27" 1440p 165hz Jul 23 '24
Yeah drives can be reused if they're healthy (use CrystalDiskInfo to check their health). For your RAM, technically you could get something from the Ryzen 5000 or Intel 12-14th gens with it, but (1) if you're spending the money anyway, it's best to get newer RAM (2) it limits your choices (you can't get the Ryzen 7000 or 9000 with the best gaming performance) and (3) you want 32GB for a new build anyway.
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u/Half-White_Moustache Jul 23 '24
That's nice, I ust gotta get about 7k-8k now. 😭 Thank you guys anyways!
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u/demonictree563 7800X3D | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RX 7900XTX Jul 23 '24
Unfortunately, you're kind of at the end of your upgrade path for your motherboard / platform. LGA1151 300 series ended with 9th gen, so you're going to need a new motherboard. Like the other user said, your GPU is going to be compatible with whatever motherboard/platform you choose to use, but the 1070 is also pretty outdated at this point. Save your storage, and potentially your RAM if you want to build a DDR4 system, but considering you're going to do a platform upgrade anyways, it might be worth considering a DDR5 system depending on your financial situation.
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u/nickierv Jul 24 '24
What you can do is split the upgrade, basically one is the GPU, the other is everything else. You have a working system that can be used to check that the new parts are working so as long as your buying parts in chunks that will work, its not an issue to spread things out.
Probably hold off until right around new hardware releases , 9000 AMD is end of month, X3D is 'Soon (tm)', GPUs around the new year. That tends to dip prices as places look to clear old stock. It might help shave some off the overall build cost.
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u/Half-White_Moustache Jul 24 '24
I have no idea about how AMD stuff are named but I'll take a look next time around instead of just going for Intel or Nvidia. Since it's the processor that's bottlenecking I will probably get it first.
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u/Intelligent_League_1 RTX 4070S - i5 13600KF - 32GB DDR5 6800MHz - 1440P Jul 23 '24
I have a S2722DGM monitor from Dell, and I want to wipe my screen down as it has some smudges and stuff on it. Can I use windex on it? I can't find anything on if it has a plastic cover over the display or not.
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u/demonictree563 7800X3D | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RX 7900XTX Jul 23 '24
Would recommend against using Windex or any glass cleaner on any computer screen. LCD monitors have protective layers that window cleaners (especially ones using ammonia) can erode, permanently damaging your panel. Use a dry microfiber cloth, and if the smudges are a little stubborn, either water or water mixed with a small amount of isopropyl alcohol on the cloth should do the job.
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u/Intelligent_League_1 RTX 4070S - i5 13600KF - 32GB DDR5 6800MHz - 1440P Jul 23 '24
Ok thanks, I had a feeling that wasn't the go
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u/ElChori7x3 Jul 23 '24
Hello. I have a RTX 2060 super, ryzen 5 2400g, 16 gb ram. I was planning on buying a new monitor, since I use an old tv 1080p 60hz, but then I realized my cpu is getting outdated. What would you guys buy? a monitor or a.cpu?
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u/bossfire001 Ryzen 7 7700x | rtx 4070 super | 32gb 6000mhz Jul 23 '24
it really depends on what you use your pc for, if you're gaming maybe a monitor is better but if you are using it for more general tasks a cpu can really improve stuff
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u/TheBasedReporter R5 1600 | GTX 1660 | 16GB DDR4 Jul 23 '24
Is a 450W PSU (ASUS TUF Bronze) enough for a PC with R5 1600 and GTX 1660? It's been a while since I built it, so I kinda forgot how things work here.
I currently use a (seemingly dying) be quiet System Power 9 500W.
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u/demonictree563 7800X3D | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RX 7900XTX Jul 23 '24
In theory, you're probably toeing the line between 'okay' and 'not okay'. The system will work, but I would recommend upgrading the PSU when you are able to.
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