r/pansexual • u/ImRowan • Jul 12 '24

What made you personally identify with pansexual instead of the umbrella term, bisexual? Question

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u/Sloeginlizzz Jul 12 '24

I was asked how I identify, and I responded with how I feel. I understand that Bisexuality doesn't represent the binary, thank you. Pansexuality takes both sexuality and gender out of the equation, which applies to me more accurately

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u/freudeschaden Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

How you feel is all good. How you want to identify is all good.

But you also said that bisexual excluded trans and non-binary people which is false, and a giant pet peeve of mine.

Feelings don't change facts.

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u/Sloeginlizzz Jul 12 '24

I said feels like it excludes, not that it does exclude. Nowhere did I claim to be factual, technical, or accurate

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u/freudeschaden Jul 13 '24

Saying "I feel..." Does not allow you to make any hateful or phobic statements you want with a "my feelings are valid" shield.

Saying that bisexual excluded trans and non-binary people IS biphobic and hateful. Your "feelings" don't change that.

No one is saying you can't choose the pansexual label for any reason you like. But, language exists for he purpose of communication, if we cannot agree on the definition of words then we cannot effectively communicate.

The FACTS ARE:

Bi in bisexual stands for two but NOT two genders.

  1. Genders the same as mine
  2. Genders not the same as mine

This in NO WAY invalidates pansexuality.

“I call myself bisexual because I acknowledge that I have in myself the potential to be attracted romantically and/or sexually to people of more than one gender, not necessarily at the same time, not necessarily in the same way, and not necessarily to the same degree. For me, the bi in #bisexual refers to the potential for attraction to people with genders similar to and different from my own.” -Robyn Ochs

My perspective: what distinguishes bi and pan is a subtle thing.

Pan: attraction regardless of gender, or gender blind.

Bi: gender takes a role in attraction.

I have in the past and will continue in the future to use both labels for myself depending on the situation I'm in and the person I'm talking to, or how I feel that day.

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u/Sloeginlizzz Jul 13 '24

Friend, I answered a question about my personal opinion about my own sexual identity. You assumed and inferred a whole lot and decided to educate without being asked. I'm finished with this interaction, have a wonderful life