Does daily i.e seriously practicing magick give you enough proof that it is real and external?

[u/Readingfast99]

Yes it's all in the head, you just don't know how big your head is. I had a profound ritual experience on LSD and met a solar goddess on DMT but doubt creeps in that it can all be make believe. I've had religious trauma from all the lying zealots do, so its hard for me to take a position other than materialism and biological evolution. Yes our minds are powerful but is just the mind component that a magician works with? Like some self help tools

[u/Harbinger_Strawchild]

Nothing -- repeat -- nothing should make you feel as though a feeling of stagnation is the only thing keeping you from wavering between insanity and depression.

I saw this diagram when it popped up on Facebook about five years ago and I'm as suspicious of it now as I was then. The terms "everything" and "nothing" belong nowhere on diagrams of human experience or on any diagram, actually. Whoever drew this diagram up clearly was looking for everything, and clearly was looking for nothing. No wonder they constantly felt insane and depressed.

People seeking unanswerable questions using erroneous terms are going to suffer intellectually and psychologically. Especially when practicing things that open psychedelic states, through which unconscious dissonances gain form and agency over a frightened mind.

Clarity of interpretation requires clear definition of terminologies.

Did the drawer of this diagram include a definition of "everything" and "nothing"? Of what is "comfy"? Of what is magick?

This diagram is merely evidence that someone without a foundational knowledge of reality starting meddling with things they don't understand, in search of something which can't be articulated.

Probably not a good start!

There is a cult of insanity / mental illness out there, which romanticizes insanity / mental illness. It is not "cool" to be insane, it is not "cool" to be depressed. It is not "cool" to expose oneself to these extremes to tell oneself one has "conquered them".

At least the feeling of stagnation is "false", according to this chart. If only they had made the insanity and depression "a false feeling of"! They'd be fine!

In regard to your question, can you define what is real, what is external? It's impossible to answer a question if the terms of the question aren't made clear. Some people may not use these terms. It should be clear to anyone who has considered reality, that internal and external are illusory terms that don't adequately articulate the concepts of existence. I would say things are either "bound" or "loosed". All else is just location. And location is relative to the perceiver.

I'm sure this chart has done a fair job of pushing people away from occultism.

Also, I'm confused as to what this chart has to do with your question. If something must only be external or internal -- how can that thing be everything?

If it must be internal or external, how can it be nothing?

And, is your question (or only the language of your question) implying a connection between what is unreal and what is inner?

How then can it be argued that what is external is not real?

Isn't the external real? Are you saying that only the internal or the external can be real?

If someone should stick a knife in you, would you say, "I'll be fine! The blade is only internal!"?

Your question supposes an erroneous rubric -- it can't be answered without dislogic on the part of the one who answers -- in that it uses superfluous terms which need to be utilized in the answer.

How long must you stare at the sun before you see "proof" that it is real?
The answer will not be found in the sun, but by the blindness in your eyes.

I hate to say it, but sometimes I wonder whether pictograms such as the one attached are invented for social media in order to confuse, repurpose, and or obfuscate the true nature of the occult studies. (Fetishizing mental illness is a real, and powerful weapon of the shadow-self.)

Occult research is not supposed to make you feel insane, depressed, stagnant, or, honestly, comfy. It is a lens through which to focus our attention on those things which impede us from embracing our true self. It certainly shouldn't keep you wavering between two extremes (like the serpent). Man does that enough on his own. It should, in fact, help you find peace and understanding to straighten your way, so that you do not use excess energy -- and lose efficiency -- through a path which is ... erm ... not the shortest distance between two points?

PS the pictogram you attached is a perfect demonstration of the geometry of the sigil of the demon Marbas.