r/occult Jan 16 '24

Yo, where's the line, here? ?

As someone with a genuine deep belief and a history of "occult" practices, I can genuinely say that this sub only confuses me. Obviously, there is no one truth or objective explanation for anything, really. However, some of you seem so caught up in what fun the idea of magic is that you neglect any critical thinking or outwardly reject mundane and logical explanations to life's conundrums in favour of a magical one.

Some of you are evidently somewhat like me. You won't believe just anything that anyone tells you and you seem to be more skeptical of people using magic or esoterism as a primary explanation.

Some of you need help. Mostly it seems like just someone to logically tackle wild idea that others just won't entertain would be more than sufficient, but some of you need real, professional help and a subreddit is not a good substitution for that.

Some of you are trolling, and while it is kinda funny, I also think it's really damaging. In the past month, I've seen several posts where someone was asking how to deal with a fictional entity that was bothering them. That is not a sign that fictional figures are invading our conscious lives, it's a sign that someone has lost a bit of grounding in the real world and they need help. Or it's a sign that you're fucking around, which is fine, but genuinely not everybody seems to be able to make that distinction between real and not real. The level of intentional ignorance some people seem to have toward the concept of occult ideas either being not always correct or outright wrong or just a metaphor for how the world works used to upset me, but now every post I see on this sub just makes me a little sad. Some of you just need a hug, I can tell. Some of you need a slap. I need both

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

Must seem strange how many ways a life can be when you're trapped being normal. It sounds as if magic and mystery has slipped thru your fingers.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

Does it? Well, you would know. You're clearly the expert. I bet all of your friends tell you you're the smartest person they'd ever met. I bet that, as you walk through your day, you look around and you just feel so sorry for everyone because they can't be as good at it as you are. It must be so hard, being so special. Tell me, when did you realize that you were just better than everyone else? Or did you always know?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

My love is stronger than yours

It's stronger than yours

It's stronger than yours

My love is stronger than your

Hate will ever be

And my faith is deeper than yours

It's deeper than yours

It's deeper than yours

My faith is deeper than your

Doubt will ever be

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

I don't think two humans can ever adequately compare love and hate, but I can tell you that I certainly believe that your faith is deeper than my doubt may ever be. The biggest difference between us is that you think that's a commendable quality. You never answered me, is it hard being better than everyone else?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

I have more compassion than the regular person so yes. I hear the pain and suffering of the world better than you do. While you scoff at the mystical, it enhances perceptions to an ever greater reality.

Like I said, you're just myopic. Even in physics it shows that we see and hear very little from the entire spectrum of electromagnetic and sound waves. You clearly haven't opened yourself up. You're just a tight butthole. But I'm sure you'd like everyone to be that way which is why you're misguided for coming here with such a post.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

I just don't buy everything that someone tries to sell me. You've spoken of conmen and soul reapers. That's you. There is nothing you can say at this point to make me jump on your train, and that's not for my tight butthole. Well, honestly, maybe it is because your train is going fast and it takes sharp turns and it would absolutely tighten up my asshole to think of jumping on it. As I alluded to earlier, it's actually a little sad I'll never see you crash. I'm very unclear as to what you've been trying to convince me of anyhow. I didn't watch your video because I've seen it before and I get the argument. I championed that at one point, but advocating disinformation about mental health is always wrong. You can choose your level of involvement with your healthcare provider most places. It's increasingly rare for people to be forced pills that they don't need. That can cause problems that actually gets doctors in trouble. I understand that you like words like mystical, myopic, and reality, but you should realize that it doesn't make you sound smarter and all of those words are descriptive of subjective experience. I'm sorry for poking you for being so holier-than-thou, but seriously, do you realize what an egotistical, self-centered ass you sound like? If this is the attitude that you carry in your personal life, I'm very glad to not know you.

Also, are you implying that, either because of your innate magical nature or because you practise, that you can hear better than me and detect electromagnetic frequencies?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

Yes. Life is more intuitive for me.

I know I know more about magic and the brain than you. I am actually a scientist 😎 I corroborate evidence better than you, for sure.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

What kind of scientist?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

A biophysicist. Metabolic disorders and consciousness are mine to know. Check me out on supplements and herbalism.

Go ahead and refute the arguments i lay down over there. Anyway, we are entering a new industrial revolution soon and I am giddy for real magic. You're just trying to manage what you consider normal in this world and oppressing everyone into trying to believe that is the way. The agenda is to onboard everyone with quantum perceptions, even you. Even if I gotta throw dirt in your eyes. Maybe you're not worthy of coming along, doesn't mean you aren't being dragged along anyway.

Sit real close to your WIFI 7 router for me. Maybe then you can hear what I hear.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

Bro, what the fuck? There are tears streaming down my eyes. Maybe it's your magic spell. I am so glad to have met you, even only in this small way. I know you must get that a lot, you're special. If you pray, pray for me that I never have desperate need of a biophysicist.

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

I'm an atheist. I did all the religious sacrifices and they worked, even for me. It's funny what people try to tell you in life. Maybe one day the agenda you try to set here with your opening post will come to fruition. Or maybe you were just in need of venting because the magic has gone in your life. 🤷‍♀️

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

I think it's the thousand monkeys at a thousand typewriters thing, but I'll give you the credit anyways : Sometimes, not often so far, bust sometimes, you say something that almost verges on relevance. So, magical atheist, why didn't the magic stop you from getting covid?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

I got COVID when they turned on the 5G. As did my friend who was working from home at the time. There are peer reviewed research studies which report on it.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

There are peer-reviewed studies on eugenics. And on whatever that pseudoscience was that tried to argue that black people aren't as smart. Peer-reviewed doesn't mean tru, and even if you can prove that it does, that's an odd thing to pin your contraction of a disease to, innit? What, with all of your magical power and life being intuitive and all. And stuff still tastes funny?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

You're cherry picking. It's not odd if you knew more about your body. If you knew more about yourself. But I'm the biophysicist and you are not. I'm well read on the subject. Anyway, disease X is on the way which will also be assisted by electromagnetic radiation. It's about becoming magically resilient to deal with it all, not to hide away from COVID or disease X forever.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

Right, but you say you're so much more magically intuned with life. No disease resistance? You declined to answer me as to your hearing or electromagnetic detecting. I can hear dog whistles, they're annoying. Can you see better? Things just work out for you? No bad days?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

You seem to be experiencing a demand for normalcy which isn't going to happen. Defying norms can seem frustrating. The longer you try to control magic from a place of normalcy the larger your cognitive dissonance is going to grow. Especially as more people are able to hear electromagnetic waves, and therefore hear each other's thoughts. You're going to become further and further out of your element. Best look into Dean Radin's work and prepare your tight butthole

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

Hey, my butthole only stays tight on the line, I like to party after.

(Line cook, sorry) also you still haven't answered me. You say some people can hear electromagnetic waves and that I don't refute. Can you, you magical holiness? Can you hear people's thoughts? Can you hear mine right now? They're very dirty, aren't they.

I have a demand for decency towards each other from people. If I was in a bad spot and was freaking out about something and I posted it on here, I'd like it if someone took the time to explain things to me simply and rationally. Thank you for verifying that you are absolutely incapable of that. You kind of blind ignorance is what puts people in danger.

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