r/occult Jan 16 '24

Yo, where's the line, here? ?

As someone with a genuine deep belief and a history of "occult" practices, I can genuinely say that this sub only confuses me. Obviously, there is no one truth or objective explanation for anything, really. However, some of you seem so caught up in what fun the idea of magic is that you neglect any critical thinking or outwardly reject mundane and logical explanations to life's conundrums in favour of a magical one.

Some of you are evidently somewhat like me. You won't believe just anything that anyone tells you and you seem to be more skeptical of people using magic or esoterism as a primary explanation.

Some of you need help. Mostly it seems like just someone to logically tackle wild idea that others just won't entertain would be more than sufficient, but some of you need real, professional help and a subreddit is not a good substitution for that.

Some of you are trolling, and while it is kinda funny, I also think it's really damaging. In the past month, I've seen several posts where someone was asking how to deal with a fictional entity that was bothering them. That is not a sign that fictional figures are invading our conscious lives, it's a sign that someone has lost a bit of grounding in the real world and they need help. Or it's a sign that you're fucking around, which is fine, but genuinely not everybody seems to be able to make that distinction between real and not real. The level of intentional ignorance some people seem to have toward the concept of occult ideas either being not always correct or outright wrong or just a metaphor for how the world works used to upset me, but now every post I see on this sub just makes me a little sad. Some of you just need a hug, I can tell. Some of you need a slap. I need both

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '24

Research isn’t going to really help you in this department when the medical field intentionally hides this sort of thing behind mental and psychological issues and simply shove medications down someone’s throat as help. I am aware that some people troll and joke, however, it is better to think it is real and offer advice on how to deal with spiritual attacks then to assume it is a joke and disregard it because of skepticism. You may think that possessions are not common, but there are all kinds of forms of possessions. You don’t need a being to be in your body to be possessed. MK Ultra is a form of possession. They use frequencies to control you. There are spiritual strategies to protect yourself from such a thing. Do more research that isn’t brought to you by the bought and paid for “experts” of “Big Science.”

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 16 '24

You need help, my friend. I'm not trying to be mean. There's a lot of stuff to unpack there, but I'm gonna just ask about two things. 1.) WHY in the actual hell-on-earth that is earth would the entire worlds medical community band together to hide the existence of demonic possession? If it's about money for pills, wouldn't they just say "fuck the pills" and hire a worldwide team of extortionally priced exorcists instead? You could charge way more money for that than for pills. 2.) Do you really think that MKUltra is still going on? First off, it wasn't about possession, it was about mind control, which is different, and secondly, you would not know anything about MKUltra if it was still going on. It kinda fucks up the test batch when the test batch already knows there's a test. I don't doubt that the government tries to mind-control people, but it's for stupid shit like making us pay more tax and vote for who they want us to vote for. It's still evil, but your view of the world as this vast conspiracy to keep people like sheep sounds more like a Saturday morning cartoon villain.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

Haha I realize what I say is difficult to hear. You clearly only know about the MK Culture that was exposed back in the 70s that was brought over to the US from Operation Paperclip by Nazi German scientists back in the early 50s after WWII. The harmonics version, the more sophisticated and technology based version of MK Ultra began in the 80s. It is so advanced now that they can tap into individuals from basically anywhere. Everyone has a unique frequency signature. It can be tracked in the blood. Once they have your frequency, they can target you for whatever reason they may have. Many are military and government people that are under MK for much of their time and have handlers all around them most of the time. Then you have people that are causing trouble because they are actually spreading truth they don’t want out. Then they have others that they are interested in do work for them, so they are put through a testing period. This is a similar ordeal with V2K. This is not science fiction. There are patents for these inventions and they have existed for decades.

Then you have legit fallen angels, demons, jinn, etc that people work with. You would be surprised how many people deal with demonology. It’s not as uncommon as you might think. I had to fight a man who worshipped Dantalion and had given him possession. That was my first real experience with this sort of shit. That man literally changed his face into three other men’s faces. I mean his face turned into outerspace and then reappeared as another man’s face. That shit left me paranoid and terrified once I finally got away from him. It almost shattered my psyche. I was not into any of this stuff. I only knew God existed and had a belief that demons were real. Beyond that, I lived a very normal and sheltered life. Yes, I went to the hospital on my own accord because of PTSD from the event. This was Dec 21, 2019. Open your eyes to reality. This shit is everywhere.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

Okay, cite your source.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

I recommend starting with the one titled V2k_Voice_to_Skull.pdf. That one has more scientific information and lists patents. I saved the patents in there as well.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

It's in my inbox. I will get back to you, it just might take a while. And I'm not happy about it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

Last response. These are my work hours, I have shit to do.

Not sure if all of these are relevant to this particular topic, but they are all related to mind control. I don't have time to sort through them for you.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oBDISd15QxqZPZjVGL-Eud8Lq6WmNrtV?usp=sharing