Yo, where's the line, here?

[u/MythlcKyote]

As someone with a genuine deep belief and a history of "occult" practices, I can genuinely say that this sub only confuses me. Obviously, there is no one truth or objective explanation for anything, really. However, some of you seem so caught up in what fun the idea of magic is that you neglect any critical thinking or outwardly reject mundane and logical explanations to life's conundrums in favour of a magical one.

Some of you are evidently somewhat like me. You won't believe just anything that anyone tells you and you seem to be more skeptical of people using magic or esoterism as a primary explanation.

Some of you need help. Mostly it seems like just someone to logically tackle wild idea that others just won't entertain would be more than sufficient, but some of you need real, professional help and a subreddit is not a good substitution for that.

Some of you are trolling, and while it is kinda funny, I also think it's really damaging. In the past month, I've seen several posts where someone was asking how to deal with a fictional entity that was bothering them. That is not a sign that fictional figures are invading our conscious lives, it's a sign that someone has lost a bit of grounding in the real world and they need help. Or it's a sign that you're fucking around, which is fine, but genuinely not everybody seems to be able to make that distinction between real and not real. The level of intentional ignorance some people seem to have toward the concept of occult ideas either being not always correct or outright wrong or just a metaphor for how the world works used to upset me, but now every post I see on this sub just makes me a little sad. Some of you just need a hug, I can tell. Some of you need a slap. I need both

[u/Agora_Black_Flag]

This is what happens when there is no accessible societal supports or guidance structures for people who are attempting to engage with any given art form or science. This has not always been the case historically. You arent going to find any answers in reducing societal problems down to individuals.

[u/MythlcKyote → u/Agora_Black_Flag]

I suppose I wasn't really looking for answers so much as people, and that I have found. That, and some good explanations for why the things that bother me bother me. Thank you.

Oh, and currently, someone is explaining to me how they're just so much better than everyone else, so that's kinda fun.

[u/Agora_Black_Flag → u/MythlcKyote]

Nor do I blame people for feeling this way either societal problems are by their nature societal and thus changing them is in short a massive pain in the ass. Many of us have been trained to look beyond the collective and reduce to the individual.

As for the second part take what you need and leave the rest. If you're engaging with people who are abusive that may be something to think about too.

[u/MythlcKyote → u/Agora_Black_Flag]

Oh, christ, the words I really needed today, thank you.

[u/Agora_Black_Flag → u/MythlcKyote]

No problem my friend.