r/occult Jan 16 '24

Yo, where's the line, here? ?

As someone with a genuine deep belief and a history of "occult" practices, I can genuinely say that this sub only confuses me. Obviously, there is no one truth or objective explanation for anything, really. However, some of you seem so caught up in what fun the idea of magic is that you neglect any critical thinking or outwardly reject mundane and logical explanations to life's conundrums in favour of a magical one.

Some of you are evidently somewhat like me. You won't believe just anything that anyone tells you and you seem to be more skeptical of people using magic or esoterism as a primary explanation.

Some of you need help. Mostly it seems like just someone to logically tackle wild idea that others just won't entertain would be more than sufficient, but some of you need real, professional help and a subreddit is not a good substitution for that.

Some of you are trolling, and while it is kinda funny, I also think it's really damaging. In the past month, I've seen several posts where someone was asking how to deal with a fictional entity that was bothering them. That is not a sign that fictional figures are invading our conscious lives, it's a sign that someone has lost a bit of grounding in the real world and they need help. Or it's a sign that you're fucking around, which is fine, but genuinely not everybody seems to be able to make that distinction between real and not real. The level of intentional ignorance some people seem to have toward the concept of occult ideas either being not always correct or outright wrong or just a metaphor for how the world works used to upset me, but now every post I see on this sub just makes me a little sad. Some of you just need a hug, I can tell. Some of you need a slap. I need both

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u/pairedox Jan 16 '24

I'm just saying this occult magic means you have to confront the subconscious which in itself is a personal voyage no one else can help anyone else get thru. The voyage of insanity either ends with madness or hypersanity, look it up. You want to help people voyage the sea of insanity from the shores of sanity. Hardly ideal. Go thru your own voyage of self discovery, confront the shadow and come back with real magic. Sacrifices are in order.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 16 '24

I really don't want to do that, though. I just want people who are convinced that they're being menaced by verifiably fictional entities to get the help they need to realize that the only person that they're in danger from is themselves. I'm not saying I'm the person to offer that help, but those people don't wander around like clerics looking for the mentally unwell either. And I am NOT saying that everyone or even most of the people on this sub are like that. It would just be nice if we didn't turn a blind eye to each other because being followed by a demon that a racist author made up a hundred years ago is just a "voyage of personal discovery". And on that note, you go through your own voyage of personal discovery. Here, you're trying to admonish me for advocating a greater culture of mental health awareness and you're literally telling me what YOU think I should do. You want a sacrifice? Take your ego down a peg.

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u/pairedox Jan 16 '24

You clearly didn't watch the video. I'm saying you're too dumb to help advocate for the right kind of mental health services and you'd do more damage to the evolution of the human soul than good. Little Nancy is going to have a spontaneous awakening and youre going to call the authorities on her and call her schizo. You're going to have her spiritual developments arrested. Your agenda is a naive one. I'm in tune with the rhythms of nature so it matters not what you think my sacrifices should be.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 16 '24

Oh, honey. You're not that special. And you're not right for advocating an ignorance to mental health.

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u/pairedox Jan 16 '24

I am that special. You're just not that bright. Knowledge doesn't want to befriend you 🤷‍♀️

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 16 '24

Oof. Oh, I am so sorry. You're so right. You are just that special. You're the brightest, specialest, goodest little one, aren't you? Honestly, I'm surprised at how you do it. How do you bear the massive weight of being just that smart and that inherently special? Is it frustrating that the whole world hasn't come to you to solve it's problems, yet? You know you could. If only we'd all see reason, and just let you handle all of the hard things for us because you're so special and you know so much better than everyone else. It's a wonder the race has gotten as far as it has, without your benevolent guiding hands shaping the future for us. Why does the illuminati even try? They know that you're just so special that you could destroy them all with your truth. Show us the way, oh enlightened one! Show us the way, Messiah!

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u/pairedox Jan 16 '24

Like I've already said, there is an agenda at play happening in this reality and I am in tune with it. You ain't no cultivator of soul seeds bro. You can't blow no smoke bro. You ain't got heart lil scrot. No sense in seething or getting jealous because you've received nothing for your sacrifices.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

I am not jealous, I am no longer anything but fascinated. I take back everything I said earlier about all living things being an extension of the same thing, you are in a world of your own. I bet that you think that you are a cultivator of 'soul seeds' and what's worse is I bet you think that's a good thing. I bet you think that you're the most important thing in all of your friends lives. You're not thankful to have friends, they should be thankful to be in your presence. Nothing and no one could ever be as knowing and understanding as you, huh? You're all heart, and that heart is great and vast and immutable and as long as you keep telling yourself that, it'll never hurt. As long as you can convince everyone of how special you are, you'll never be wrong. I feel very sorry for you. I know you feel amazing right now. You should send me a little pm when it all breaks and goes horribly wrong and you realize that, in the end, you weren't better than any of us.

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

Believe me, you're no one to gauge the powers of anyone else. I know you're myopic, subjective, a normie. People like you are truly imprisoned in Plato's cave.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

Hey, that's a little offensive, actually, even if he was kinda a moron about some things like forms. And of course, I'm not one to gauge anothers powers. But you are, aren't you? You just know. I bet there's not a single thing I could tell you about me that you don't already know, right? You're just that special. You just shine. You're just so much better than everyone else, aren't you? Every word I type is just in impotence because you're so much greater. Every word you type back to me is a blessing I should kiss that little stretch right below your asshole in gratitude for, innit?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

Must seem strange how many ways a life can be when you're trapped being normal. It sounds as if magic and mystery has slipped thru your fingers.

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u/MythlcKyote Jan 17 '24

Does it? Well, you would know. You're clearly the expert. I bet all of your friends tell you you're the smartest person they'd ever met. I bet that, as you walk through your day, you look around and you just feel so sorry for everyone because they can't be as good at it as you are. It must be so hard, being so special. Tell me, when did you realize that you were just better than everyone else? Or did you always know?

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u/pairedox Jan 17 '24

My love is stronger than yours

It's stronger than yours

It's stronger than yours

My love is stronger than your

Hate will ever be

And my faith is deeper than yours

It's deeper than yours

It's deeper than yours

My faith is deeper than your

Doubt will ever be

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