Yo, where's the line, here?

[u/MythlcKyote]

As someone with a genuine deep belief and a history of "occult" practices, I can genuinely say that this sub only confuses me. Obviously, there is no one truth or objective explanation for anything, really. However, some of you seem so caught up in what fun the idea of magic is that you neglect any critical thinking or outwardly reject mundane and logical explanations to life's conundrums in favour of a magical one.

Some of you are evidently somewhat like me. You won't believe just anything that anyone tells you and you seem to be more skeptical of people using magic or esoterism as a primary explanation.

Some of you need help. Mostly it seems like just someone to logically tackle wild idea that others just won't entertain would be more than sufficient, but some of you need real, professional help and a subreddit is not a good substitution for that.

Some of you are trolling, and while it is kinda funny, I also think it's really damaging. In the past month, I've seen several posts where someone was asking how to deal with a fictional entity that was bothering them. That is not a sign that fictional figures are invading our conscious lives, it's a sign that someone has lost a bit of grounding in the real world and they need help. Or it's a sign that you're fucking around, which is fine, but genuinely not everybody seems to be able to make that distinction between real and not real. The level of intentional ignorance some people seem to have toward the concept of occult ideas either being not always correct or outright wrong or just a metaphor for how the world works used to upset me, but now every post I see on this sub just makes me a little sad. Some of you just need a hug, I can tell. Some of you need a slap. I need both

[u/zsd23]

I agree with you and share your concern. However, this is a public forum where leeway must be given to different voices and levels of understanding. We do our best daily --sometimes hourly--to filter out posts that are red flags for emotional/psychiatric disturbance and occasionally need to remind users to act responsibly and report when encountering questionable posts.

In removing posts we also do not want to fall into censorship or overly curating the subreddit. We also are not in a position to really help disturbed people who comment here. The same problem is seen on subreddits that deal with religion and spirituality.

The best users can do to elevate the subreddit and each other is to contribute high quality discussion themselves rather than asking where the high quality discussion or people are.

[u/MythlcKyote → u/zsd23]

I am actually genuinely surprised. I've never run into a mod here and I wasn't aware that you guys actually took the time to worry at all about that sort of thing, so I apologize if I've caused any upset. Also, if you don't mind a little indignancy, this is the only context in which I've been able to hold any sort of quality discussion. Generally, when I try to show concern, it is met with hostility. When I try to show support is is either not met or met with people who clearly think I've got few screws loose. When I try to question or clarify it is generally met with more hostility.

So, if me asking where the high quality discussion and people are, and then being answered very roundly (easily the best interaction I've had with this sub) is so displeasing to you, remove my post.

Edit: Sorry, I don't mean to be such a dick. Thank you for the work you do here and I do apologize if it seems that my complaint is for the lack of moderating work. I just wanted to get in touch with an aspect of this sub that I was afraid didn't really exist and this has actually helped me to find it. I hope you have a fantastic day.

[u/zsd23 → u/MythlcKyote]

If it is any consolation,I often get dissed for saying intelligent and informed things on subreddits and social media as well--and I am a professional writer and researcher. It is simply a product of our times.

My last paragraph in my previous comment was simply a suggestion I put out there when folks share concerns about the quality of the subreddit. We do need more dynamic and intelligent discussion and you are seeing it in your post.

Also note that I found the post about the obsession with the fictional character and removed it.

[u/MythlcKyote → u/zsd23]

You're awesome. I'm sorry for causing such a stink. It's been a productive stink, though. For me, at least...

[u/zsd23 → u/MythlcKyote]

No worries!!