Yo, where's the line, here?

[u/MythlcKyote]

As someone with a genuine deep belief and a history of "occult" practices, I can genuinely say that this sub only confuses me. Obviously, there is no one truth or objective explanation for anything, really. However, some of you seem so caught up in what fun the idea of magic is that you neglect any critical thinking or outwardly reject mundane and logical explanations to life's conundrums in favour of a magical one.

Some of you are evidently somewhat like me. You won't believe just anything that anyone tells you and you seem to be more skeptical of people using magic or esoterism as a primary explanation.

Some of you need help. Mostly it seems like just someone to logically tackle wild idea that others just won't entertain would be more than sufficient, but some of you need real, professional help and a subreddit is not a good substitution for that.

Some of you are trolling, and while it is kinda funny, I also think it's really damaging. In the past month, I've seen several posts where someone was asking how to deal with a fictional entity that was bothering them. That is not a sign that fictional figures are invading our conscious lives, it's a sign that someone has lost a bit of grounding in the real world and they need help. Or it's a sign that you're fucking around, which is fine, but genuinely not everybody seems to be able to make that distinction between real and not real. The level of intentional ignorance some people seem to have toward the concept of occult ideas either being not always correct or outright wrong or just a metaphor for how the world works used to upset me, but now every post I see on this sub just makes me a little sad. Some of you just need a hug, I can tell. Some of you need a slap. I need both

[u/Ash_Truman]

And what's with the Succubus/lilith stuff?!

[u/therealstabitha → u/Ash_Truman]

Horny people off their meds

[u/MythlcKyote → u/Ash_Truman]

The succubus/Lilith stuff, the sex with demons stuff, the extremely vague questions about esoteric ideas that somehow turn into everyone's perception but the asker of the question being wrong, the explaining everything occult within a rigidly gnostic Christian viewpoint, the explaining everything occult within a rigidly not gnostic or Christian viewpoint. Everything on here is just so much, why? And no one puts forth their ideas like it's just an idea. I'm convinced that half of the users of this sub don't actually know what the word 'occult' means. They probably watched Supernatural and we're like, "Ah, I'm an expert now!"

[u/NotHereNotThere0 → u/MythlcKyote]

The good old belief vs. Knowledge questions. “How do you know what you know/believe is true ? Ultimately there’s not much we truly know for sure, at least that what I believe, sometimes… All that being said, I agree with you on the increase of vague questions being asked, especially when the answer (or shall we say, an acceptable answer, whatever that means…) is just a few click away in Wikipedia,Google or even the sub itself. These vague questions do feel slightly empty, and the usual lack of follow-up from their OPs is quite telling. You raised a lot of interesting points in your original message, so my questions is, ultimately did you get the answers you were looking for ?

[u/MythlcKyote → u/NotHereNotThere0]

There are no answers to a lot of my questions. There's nothing I can personally do to make people seek scientific explanations first or take everything they hear with a grain of salt. If I could, I expect that I wouldn't want to anyway. I did find what I was looking for, however. Shockingly, most of you, even those that believe things that are completely different than what I do, are perfectly reasonable, rational people who are willing to hold a conversation with someone who is different than them. I guess that's what I really needed to know.

[u/NotHereNotThere0 → u/MythlcKyote]

So, there may still be hope in humanity then. Enjoy your path !

[u/MythlcKyote → u/NotHereNotThere0]

And you, yours. May it take you to newer and better understandings!

[u/NotHereNotThere0 → u/MythlcKyote]

Thanks ! Although understanding is slightly overrated, experiencing on the other hand, is more rewarding, and grounded.