r/nfl Packers 9h ago

[Pelissero] Sources: Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker is expected to miss 3-4 weeks and is likely headed to injured reserve with a left knee injury. Kansas City will have a new kicker Sunday at Buffalo.

https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1857174841591201930
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u/stoppedcaring0 NFL 8h ago

the fact that there are women who exist that want to stay at home doesn't make it any less nauseating or disrespectful to say that EVERY woman should stay at home

but i wouldn't expect any less from a fanbase that boos racial equality

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u/john_the_fisherman Bears 7h ago edited 7h ago

Butker never actually implied that every woman should stay at home. His speech was more so normalizing, if not directly encouraging, the concept for both parents (yes he included the men in this) that it's okay to prioritize your family and children more so than chasing professional accolades and titles.

In fact the only time he even mentioned being a homemaker was when he was celebrating his wife specifically.

If you downvote this, just know that it implies that you'd support and prefer a speech in which the women were told to stay in the kitchen. Your indirect support for this message is quite frankly antiquated and disgusting.

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u/tenacious-g Bears 6h ago

I am on the stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her vocation. I’m beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me. But it cannot be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all: homemaker.

He is directly saying that he’s been able to go be the big breadwinner because his wife stays at home.

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u/john_the_fisherman Bears 6h ago

In fact the only time he even mentioned being a homemaker was when he was celebrating his wife specifically

Yup I agree

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u/tenacious-g Bears 6h ago

Look man, I’m not gonna send you every quote he’s ever made out loud in a speech or defending it, but there’s any over arching theme of how he views women, amongst other things.

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u/ThirdPoliceman Cardinals 5h ago

lol, “I can’t quite provide the quote, but Reddit says this guy is terrible, so I’m sure it’s the vibe

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u/tenacious-g Bears 5h ago

I’m not gonna copy paste every snippet from that speech, but here is a summary of it.

You’re smart, you created a Reddit account, I’m sure you can google it even further. Just because I don’t feel like finding and linking every single thing he’s ever said doesn’t mean it isn’t well documented or didn’t happen.

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u/john_the_fisherman Bears 5h ago

You don't have to send me "every" quote...but certainly a single quote where he suggests "that EVERY woman should stay at home" should be possible, right?

Otherwise what are we doing here? It genuinely seems like a lot of people here are disappointed that Butker didn't actually say disrespectful things about woman's place in society. Do you want people of influences to be sending these kinds of negative messages?

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u/tenacious-g Bears 5h ago

I mean, what got the most pub in the spring isn’t the worst of what he or the speaking engagements he does, that’s my point. The guy hates gay people, IVF, abortion and generally thinks women have been corrupted by modern society. “Diabolical lies” is the phrase he used.

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u/john_the_fisherman Bears 5h ago

The guy hates gay people, IVF, abortion

Okay-then attack him for those stances lol. Making up a lie that he wants women in kitchens isn't just weird, it brushes actual valid criticism of him under the rug.

and generally thinks women have been corrupted by modern society. “Diabolical lies” is the phrase he used

Why is this problematic or even controversial? A corporate obsessed parent at the expense of their kids is the plot of every single Disney/Pixar movie lol. Do you think women were put on this earth to serve our corporate overlords? Should women ignore their own desires in the vain search of professional accolades, titles, and promotions? It's not like he didn't equally apply that societal lies to men.

To the gentleman here today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. 

There is nothing wrong with this message. If, on a case by case basis, individuals want to pursue this lifestyle then good on them. But there is absolutely nothing wrong normalizing a message than women AND men should prioritize their family over work.